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Old January 5th, 2004, 11:10 AM
Marco@munich
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Hi !
I have booked a flight for me and my girl friend in march to Bangkok.
The cheapest offer was Munich-Moskow-Bangkok by Aeroflot Russian
Airlines! Aircraft from MUC to SVO will be A319 and from SVO to BKK
an IL 96 (whatever it is !?!).
May anyone give me some information about aeroflot on this route ?
How about security, service and tranfser in Moskow ?
Thank you for your help !
Marco
Munich, Germany
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Old January 5th, 2004, 02:04 PM
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"Marco@munich" wrote ...
The cheapest offer was Munich-Moskow-Bangkok by Aeroflot Russian
Airlines! Aircraft from MUC to SVO will be A319 and from SVO to BKK
an IL 96 (whatever it is !?!).



That would be an Ilyishin-96:
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/451146/L/
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/337628/L/
Greetz,

*fun! is it?*


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Old January 5th, 2004, 03:00 PM
DALing
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SVO is a bit dank but bearable unless you have a lay-over of more than a
couple of hours. The 96 has more legroom than most "western:" aircraft the
way Aeroflot sets them up.

"Marco@munich" wrote in message
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Hi !
I have booked a flight for me and my girl friend in march to Bangkok.
The cheapest offer was Munich-Moskow-Bangkok by Aeroflot Russian
Airlines! Aircraft from MUC to SVO will be A319 and from SVO to BKK
an IL 96 (whatever it is !?!).
May anyone give me some information about aeroflot on this route ?
How about security, service and tranfser in Moskow ?
Thank you for your help !
Marco
Munich, Germany


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Old January 5th, 2004, 04:16 PM
OZ
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"Marco@munich" wrote in message
om...
Hi !
I have booked a flight for me and my girl friend in march to Bangkok.
The cheapest offer was Munich-Moskow-Bangkok by Aeroflot Russian
Airlines! Aircraft from MUC to SVO will be A319 and from SVO to BKK
an IL 96 (whatever it is !?!).
May anyone give me some information about aeroflot on this route ?
How about security, service and tranfser in Moskow ?
Thank you for your help !
Marco
Munich, Germany


I flew with Aeroflot from LHR - SVO - BKK

Though the flight will get you there in one piece, be prepared for shabby
plane interior and no inflight entertainment from SVO - BKK.

The transfer at the airport is likely to be traumatic too. The Russian
immigration officials aren't the friendliest of people and expect the return
flights to be cancelled and moved at the last minute (this is all from
personal experience)

The Illushin (sp?) aircraft they use are old and dated and need to be
replaced soon.

If you can afford a little extra, my advice would be to use a different
airline as the chances are you're probably only saving a few Euros over the
next cheapest flight.

Hope that helps

Oz


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Old January 5th, 2004, 08:29 PM
Roman J. Rohleder
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"OZ" schrieb:

The Illushin (sp?) aircraft they use are old and dated and need to be
replaced soon.


sp. depends on where you live and the language spoken. ;-)
In English Ilyushin is appropriate.

The Il-96 is hardly old and outdated, that type of bird flew first
time in 1988, the 96M in 1993. No accident yet, the predecessor IL-86
had one loss in 25 years.

Aeroflot has worked on itself, on their people and the fleet, they
are still buying new IL96 - they have updated the design and were
planning to use P&W engines, but that deal was busted from US side..

I have seen the IL86 in Eriwan-Zvartnorts - itīs the most impressing,
nicest airliner I have ever seen.

Hope that helps

Oz


Gruss, Roman
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Old January 5th, 2004, 09:28 PM
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"OZ" schreef in bericht
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The Russian
immigration officials aren't the friendliest of people


The OP should not see a Russian immigration officer if only in transit.

Sjoerd


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Old January 6th, 2004, 09:44 AM
OZ
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"Sjoerd" wrote in message
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"OZ" schreef in bericht
...
The Russian
immigration officials aren't the friendliest of people


The OP should not see a Russian immigration officer if only in transit.

Sjoerd



That's what I thought. I was only in transit last time I flew with Aeroflot
and saw Russian immigration officers (they're the same dudes that sit in the
official immigration desks - military dress and everything) 3 (yes 3!)
times.

My original comments still stand. Despite the efforts of high level
managment to change the image of Aeroflot, I still beleive (from personal
experience) that they have a VERY long way to go before they can compare
themselves to the likes of other airlines.

Oz


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Old January 6th, 2004, 09:53 AM
OZ
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"Roman J. Rohleder" wrote in message
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"OZ" schrieb:

The Illushin (sp?) aircraft they use are old and dated and need to be
replaced soon.


sp. depends on where you live and the language spoken. ;-)
In English Ilyushin is appropriate.

The Il-96 is hardly old and outdated, that type of bird flew first
time in 1988, the 96M in 1993. No accident yet, the predecessor IL-86
had one loss in 25 years.

Yes, I understand. You're speaking from an aircraft enthusiasts point of
view. Take that hat off for a moment and look at it from a regular air
traveller's opinion. If you travel on a long distance flight like from SVO -
BKK, it doesn't matter how cavernous the interior is - the view you get is
poor interior (carpets frayed and not glued down) and no in flight
entertainment (not even a little radio to listen to!) - Take a book is my
advice - it's the only thing that kept me sane!

Just to prove I don't have a complete downer on Aeroflot...The plus points
of Aeroflot a Tonnes of leg room, and tonnes of cabin storage, and don't
forget the free "bar" in the back of the aircraft.

Aeroflot has worked on itself, on their people and the fleet, they
are still buying new IL96 - they have updated the design and were
planning to use P&W engines, but that deal was busted from US side..


They still have a VERY long way to go. That is from personal experience.
If I was flying to BKK from LHR I would still chose another airline and pay
the extra (usually Ģ45).

I have seen the IL86 in Eriwan-Zvartnorts - itīs the most impressing,
nicest airliner I have ever seen.


Sorry, I can't comment on IL86 - I actually flew SVO - BKK on an IL96. I
don't think they use the IL86 on this route.

Gruss, Roman


Oz


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Old January 6th, 2004, 02:15 PM
DALing
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and the 3 is - first - coming "in" (even if in transit, you see
immigration), the second - gettng back "into the airport" - even if (you
didn't "leave" OR actually ENTER Russia), and third "to leave" (talk about
bureaucracy)

"OZ" wrote in message
...

"Sjoerd" wrote in message
...

"OZ" schreef in bericht
...
The Russian
immigration officials aren't the friendliest of people


The OP should not see a Russian immigration officer if only in transit.

Sjoerd



That's what I thought. I was only in transit last time I flew with

Aeroflot
and saw Russian immigration officers (they're the same dudes that sit in

the
official immigration desks - military dress and everything) 3 (yes 3!)
times.

My original comments still stand. Despite the efforts of high level
managment to change the image of Aeroflot, I still beleive (from personal
experience) that they have a VERY long way to go before they can compare
themselves to the likes of other airlines.

Oz



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Old January 6th, 2004, 02:57 PM
James Robinson
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OZ wrote:

Roman J. Rohleder wrote:

"OZ" schrieb:

The Illushin (sp?) aircraft they use are old and dated
and need to be replaced soon.


The Il-96 is hardly old and outdated, that type of bird flew first
time in 1988, the 96M in 1993.

Yes, I understand. You're speaking from an aircraft enthusiasts point of
view. Take that hat off for a moment and look at it from a regular air
traveller's opinion. If you travel on a long distance flight like from SVO -
BKK, it doesn't matter how cavernous the interior is - the view you get is
poor interior (carpets frayed and not glued down) and no in flight
entertainment (not even a little radio to listen to!) - Take a book is my
advice - it's the only thing that kept me sane!


You were suggesting complete aircraft replacement simply because of a
worn interior. That isn't really cost-effective. If the interior was to
be replaced with a more recent design, as most airlines do every few
years, I suspect you would have difficulty suggesting the aircraft was
old and dated. Consider that until recently, DC-9s were flying about
that were over 30 years old, and there were few complaints. The design
of the Russian plane is barely 10 years old.

It's also interesting how people seem to have lost the ability to
entertain themselves. How on earth did people keep themselves amused
when they traveled for many days on trains, or prior to the introduction
of entertainment systems on aircraft? Personally, I don't usually use
the entertainment system, since the movies are typically second-rate,
and the music isn't often to my taste. I sleep or read. I do enjoy the
route progress maps, however.
 




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