Interesting statistics

From Cruise Lines International Association as Reported in "Travel Weekly",
for 9/18

CLIA: Passenger volume humming (9/17/2003)
By Rebecca Tobin
NEW YORK -- More than 4.5 million cruise passengers worldwide, including
nearly 4 million North Americans, cruised on Cruise Lines International
Association-member lines during the first half of 2003, according to CLIA.
That's a 13.6% increase over the first half of 2002.
More than 2.3 million of those people cruised during second-quarter 2003, a
5.7% year-over-year jump.
CLIA-member ships sailed at 100.7% occupancy during the first half of
2003--which CLIA executive director Bob Sharak said was because of "the
joint efforts of the industry and its professional travel agent partners."

Cliff Notes version: The cruise lines WILL keep the ships full. Rebounding
demand has firmed pricing and we're seeing substantial increases over last
year for many lines and itineraries. Prices are still no where near what
they were ten years ago (still about half - balcony stateroom selling for
what an inside cabin cost in 1993), but they're going up. The good news -
It is unlikely that prices will EVER go back to ten year earlier levels in
real dollars because the cruise lines (especially mass market) have changed
the business model so that the ticket price reflects perhaps only 40% or
less of the total revenue generated from the passenger. The remainder comes
from what was euphemistically called "port charges" at one time and on-board
revenue. In some cases, average on-board revenue per passenger for a
seven-night cruise is close to the ticket cost and the cruise line profit
from on board revenue is equivalent to a ticket price $600.00 to $900.00 per
person higher.

--
Charlie Funk
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"Charlie Funk" wrote in message

2003--which CLIA executive director Bob Sharak said was because of "the
joint efforts of the industry and its professional travel agent partners."

Whenever I hear anyone from CLIA or the cruise lines refer to their "travel
agent partners", I grab my wallet. vbg

Silent partner, maybe... and certainly not equal partners.


--
George in PA http://www.countryside-travel.com

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Sleazy 3 - Carnival Conquest http://www.cruisemaster.com/sleazy3.htm

Speaking of "hippocrits"

Aren't you the guy that works out of a duplex in Carpinteria and claims to
be in Santa Barbara?

At least George doesn't saturate the newsgroup with Press Releases just to
advertise his cruise website.

At least George doesn't give us a fake address for where his Travel Agency
is located.

At least George uses his real name.

You got guts calling someone else a hypocrite!.

PS. invest in a spell checker

"Ray Golderberg" wrote in message
news:dmVyYWNpdHk=.d8701d172a1d4544f67d56094f66adb4 @1063907171.cotse.net...
George Leppla wrote:

Whenever I hear anyone from CLIA or the cruise lines refer to
their "travel
agent partners", I grab my wallet. vbg

Silent partner, maybe... and certainly not equal partners.

But aren't you a CLIA Master Cruise Counselor? Isn't that your claim to
fame? Doesn't that set you apart from those at home agents? Funny how you
don't mind partnering up with anything that helps you like CLIA or Szeto
or RCI but you are quick to trash them at the drop of a hat. You are the
biggest hippocrit on rtc or maybe the whole internet.

This is Not Ray but RAT: Look at the email this is the same
mean SOB that has many email addresses and has been a mean troll. He/she or
both is probably is home playing with themselves every time it posts.

Mike

"Paul" wrote in message
...
Speaking of "hippocrits"

Aren't you the guy that works out of a duplex in Carpinteria and claims to
be in Santa Barbara?

At least George doesn't saturate the newsgroup with Press Releases just to
advertise his cruise website.

At least George doesn't give us a fake address for where his Travel Agency
is located.

At least George uses his real name.

You got guts calling someone else a hypocrite!.

PS. invest in a spell checker

"Ray Golderberg" wrote in message
news:dmVyYWNpdHk=.d8701d172a1d4544f67d56094f66adb4 @1063907171.cotse.net...
George Leppla wrote:

Whenever I hear anyone from CLIA or the cruise lines refer to
their "travel
agent partners", I grab my wallet. vbg

Silent partner, maybe... and certainly not equal partners.

But aren't you a CLIA Master Cruise Counselor? Isn't that your claim to
fame? Doesn't that set you apart from those at home agents? Funny how
you
don't mind partnering up with anything that helps you like CLIA or Szeto
or RCI but you are quick to trash them at the drop of a hat. You are the
biggest hippocrit on rtc or maybe the whole internet.

That post was NOT from Ray Goldenberg!

"Paul" wrote:

Speaking of "hippocrits"

Aren't you the guy that works out of a duplex in Carpinteria and claims to
be in Santa Barbara?

At least George doesn't saturate the newsgroup with Press Releases just to
advertise his cruise website.

At least George doesn't give us a fake address for where his Travel Agency
is located.

At least George uses his real name.

You got guts calling someone else a hypocrite!.

PS. invest in a spell checker

"Ray Golderberg" wrote in message
news:dmVyYWNpdHk=.d8701d172a1d4544f67d56094f66adb ...
George Leppla wrote:

Whenever I hear anyone from CLIA or the cruise lines refer to
their "travel
agent partners", I grab my wallet. vbg

Silent partner, maybe... and certainly not equal partners.

But aren't you a CLIA Master Cruise Counselor? Isn't that your claim to
fame? Doesn't that set you apart from those at home agents? Funny how you
don't mind partnering up with anything that helps you like CLIA or Szeto
or RCI but you are quick to trash them at the drop of a hat. You are the
biggest hippocrit on rtc or maybe the whole internet.




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(...and leave off the "potatoes" to e-mail)

Looks like somebody caught a troll fish again.



"Paul" wrote in message
...
Speaking of "hippocrits"

Aren't you the guy that works out of a duplex in Carpinteria and claims to
be in Santa Barbara?

At least George doesn't saturate the newsgroup with Press Releases just to
advertise his cruise website.

At least George doesn't give us a fake address for where his Travel Agency
is located.

At least George uses his real name.

You got guts calling someone else a hypocrite!.

PS. invest in a spell checker

"Ray Golderberg" wrote in message
news:dmVyYWNpdHk=.d8701d172a1d4544f67d56094f66adb4 @1063907171.cotse.net...
George Leppla wrote:

Whenever I hear anyone from CLIA or the cruise lines refer to
their "travel
agent partners", I grab my wallet. vbg

Silent partner, maybe... and certainly not equal partners.

But aren't you a CLIA Master Cruise Counselor? Isn't that your claim to
fame? Doesn't that set you apart from those at home agents? Funny how
you
don't mind partnering up with anything that helps you like CLIA or Szeto
or RCI but you are quick to trash them at the drop of a hat. You are the
biggest hippocrit on rtc or maybe the whole internet.

In article , Charlie Funk
wrote:

Cliff Notes version: The cruise lines WILL keep the ships full. Rebounding
demand has firmed pricing and we're seeing substantial increases over last
year for many lines and itineraries. Prices are still no where near what
they were ten years ag

I just made a booking and I did not get the feeling that prices are
much different than last year at this time. It would not be surprising
to see an increase in prices if it does turn out the economy is on a
sustained rebound and demand for cruises increases. I am not convinced
that point has been reached yet. Prices still seem to be low. One
factor keeping prices down is there are still a bunch of new ships
coming online.

--
Charles