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Old April 28th, 2004, 06:19 AM
roy king
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Has anyone been to Ethiopia visiting the historical towns ?I am looking for
someone who organises trips for two persons,maybe with a guide at each
place,and if possible travel by road as the rods seem to be better than a
few years ago.
Thanks

Roy


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Old April 29th, 2004, 06:35 PM
L. Andreoli
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Hi Roy,

We just returned from Ethiopia and visited both the Northern part
(historical route) and the Southern part (tribes etc.). All magnificent!
Roads: In principle not really bad but in order to safe time the best
option is an inland flight from Addis Ababa
to Bahir Dar (safe you two days, flight is inexpensive) for visiting
several churches and
monasteries at Lake Tana & Blue Nile falls.
Take from there a car (4x4 not absolute necessary but preferable) and
make your roundtrip via Gondar (Falisadas palace, churches etc.), Axum
(steles etc.), Adigrat down to the province of Tigray where a lot of
churches can be visited up to Lalibela (a must!)
From Lalibela to Addis back take again an inland flight as this part has
not so much highlights.

There is only one large touroperator in Ethiopia , it is an Italian one
from origin.
Look for: http://www.greenlandtours.net

Ethiopia is a beautiful country (we lived/worked there for 3 years)
For photo's and the itinerary we did, have a look at our homepage:
http://www.homepages.hetnet.nl/~louine
If you need more info let me know
greetings,

Lou Andreoli
(Human, wildlife & nature photographer)


Lou Andreoli

"roy king" schreef in bericht
. ..
Has anyone been to Ethiopia visiting the historical towns ?I am

looking for
someone who organises trips for two persons,maybe with a guide at each
place,and if possible travel by road as the rods seem to be better

than a
few years ago.
Thanks

Roy




  #3  
Old April 30th, 2004, 07:52 AM
Nisse PowerMan
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Default ethiopia.

L. Andreoli wrote:

Hi Roy,

We just returned from Ethiopia and visited both the Northern part
(historical route) and the Southern part (tribes etc.). All magnificent!
Roads: In principle not really bad but in order to safe time the best
option is an inland flight from Addis Ababa
to Bahir Dar (safe you two days, flight is inexpensive) for visiting
several churches and
monasteries at Lake Tana & Blue Nile falls.



I'm planning to buy the Historical route air ticket, any idea of price
level locally vs back home?

Any problem to get a ticket at short notice?

What about air safety? What type of planes?

Was there water in the falls, any special 'Falls Day' with more water?



Take from there a car (4x4 not absolute necessary but preferable) and
make your roundtrip via Gondar (Falisadas palace, churches etc.), Axum
(steles etc.), Adigrat down to the province of Tigray where a lot of
churches can be visited up to Lalibela (a must!)


Whats the highlights of Lalibela?


From Lalibela to Addis back take again an inland flight as this part has
not so much highlights.



Can you give more info about visa. Must get visa in advance at home or
is it fairly simple at the airport on arrival?

Visa cost?

Visa currency? Any or only ETB?

Any problems with currency exchange? Banking time in Addis and the
Historical route?

Any problems exchanging EUR, or is USD a must?

Wow, wow, soooo many questions.

/Regards, Anders




There is only one large touroperator in Ethiopia , it is an Italian one
from origin.
Look for: http://www.greenlandtours.net

Ethiopia is a beautiful country (we lived/worked there for 3 years)
For photo's and the itinerary we did, have a look at our homepage:
http://www.homepages.hetnet.nl/~louine
If you need more info let me know
greetings,

Lou Andreoli
(Human, wildlife & nature photographer)

Lou Andreoli

"roy king" schreef in bericht
. ..
Has anyone been to Ethiopia visiting the historical towns ?I am

looking for
someone who organises trips for two persons,maybe with a guide at each
place,and if possible travel by road as the rods seem to be better

than a
few years ago.
Thanks

Roy



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  #4  
Old April 30th, 2004, 09:03 AM
L. Andreoli
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Default ethiopia.


"Nisse PowerMan" schreef in bericht
...
L. Andreoli wrote:

Hi Roy,

We just returned from Ethiopia and visited both the Northern part
(historical route) and the Southern part (tribes etc.). All

magnificent!
Roads: In principle not really bad but in order to safe time the

best
option is an inland flight from Addis Ababa
to Bahir Dar (safe you two days, flight is inexpensive) for visiting
several churches and
monasteries at Lake Tana & Blue Nile falls.



I'm planning to buy the Historical route air ticket, any idea of price
level locally vs back home?


No idea

Any problem to get a ticket at short notice?


No idea

What about air safety? What type of planes?


Safe flying with Fokker F50/80 for inland flights

Was there water in the falls, any special 'Falls Day' with more water?


Yes there was, but it's not for sure you will see it every day (depends
whether the power station operates or not)


Take from there a car (4x4 not absolute necessary but preferable)

and
make your roundtrip via Gondar (Falisadas palace, churches etc.),

Axum
(steles etc.), Adigrat down to the province of Tigray where a lot

of
churches can be visited up to Lalibela (a must!)


Whats the highlights of Lalibela?


Many rock hewn churches absolute unique

From Lalibela to Addis back take again an inland flight as this part

has
not so much highlights.



Can you give more info about visa. Must get visa in advance at home or
is it fairly simple at the airport on arrival?


Better do it in advance

Visa cost?


About US 50,-

Visa currency? Any or only ETB?


No idea we, did it in the Netherlands

Any problems with currency exchange? Banking time in Addis and the


Change your money at the airport or at the banks in Addis (open 8 am to
4 pm)

Historical route?


Not at Lalibela, advice: change all you think to spent at Addis

Any problems exchanging EUR, or is USD a must?


No problems, they prefer EUR but USD also no problem

Wow, wow, soooo many questions.


Wow, wow, I could not answer all your questios
Lou Andreoli
(lot of your questions and others can be found in
Loneley Planet: Ėthiopia, Eritrea & Djibouti, ISBN 086442292X)

/Regards, Anders




There is only one large touroperator in Ethiopia , it is an Italian

one
from origin.
Look for: http://www.greenlandtours.net

Ethiopia is a beautiful country (we lived/worked there for 3 years)
For photo's and the itinerary we did, have a look at our homepage:
http://www.homepages.hetnet.nl/~louine
If you need more info let me know
greetings,

Lou Andreoli
(Human, wildlife & nature photographer)

Lou Andreoli

"roy king" schreef in bericht
. ..
Has anyone been to Ethiopia visiting the historical towns ?I am

looking for
someone who organises trips for two persons,maybe with a guide at

each
place,and if possible travel by road as the rods seem to be better

than a
few years ago.
Thanks

Roy



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Remove the obvious part before replying by mail please!



  #5  
Old May 3rd, 2004, 11:38 AM
Nisse PowerMan
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Default ethiopia.

Hi again, I got some new questions about your trip around Ethiopia:

Hotel Recommendations for Bahar Dar, Gondar, Lalibela, Aksum and Addis?

What hotels did you stay at?

Experience?
Price Level?
Address and phone/fax and email to hotel?
Your Recommendation?

Did you find any useful Internet Cafe around in Addis and/or elsewhere?

Any insect problems in the Lalibela churches? I read somewhere about
flee problems in the floor rugs.


/Regards, Anders





I'm planning to buy the Historical route air ticket, any idea of price
level locally vs back home?


No idea

Any problem to get a ticket at short notice?


No idea

What about air safety? What type of planes?


Safe flying with Fokker F50/80 for inland flights

Was there water in the falls, any special 'Falls Day' with more water?


Yes there was, but it's not for sure you will see it every day (depends
whether the power station operates or not)


Take from there a car (4x4 not absolute necessary but preferable)

and
make your roundtrip via Gondar (Falisadas palace, churches etc.),

Axum
(steles etc.), Adigrat down to the province of Tigray where a lot

of
churches can be visited up to Lalibela (a must!)


Whats the highlights of Lalibela?


Many rock hewn churches absolute unique

From Lalibela to Addis back take again an inland flight as this part

has
not so much highlights.



Can you give more info about visa. Must get visa in advance at home or
is it fairly simple at the airport on arrival?


Better do it in advance

Visa cost?


About US 50,-

Visa currency? Any or only ETB?


No idea we, did it in the Netherlands

Any problems with currency exchange? Banking time in Addis and the


Change your money at the airport or at the banks in Addis (open 8 am to
4 pm)

Historical route?


Not at Lalibela, advice: change all you think to spent at Addis

Any problems exchanging EUR, or is USD a must?


No problems, they prefer EUR but USD also no problem

Wow, wow, soooo many questions.


Wow, wow, I could not answer all your questios
Lou Andreoli
(lot of your questions and others can be found in
Loneley Planet: Ėthiopia, Eritrea & Djibouti, ISBN 086442292X)

/Regards, Anders




There is only one large touroperator in Ethiopia , it is an Italian

one
from origin.
Look for: http://www.greenlandtours.net

Ethiopia is a beautiful country (we lived/worked there for 3 years)
For photo's and the itinerary we did, have a look at our homepage:
http://www.homepages.hetnet.nl/~louine
If you need more info let me know
greetings,

Lou Andreoli
(Human, wildlife & nature photographer)

Lou Andreoli

"roy king" schreef in bericht
. ..
Has anyone been to Ethiopia visiting the historical towns ?I am
looking for
someone who organises trips for two persons,maybe with a guide at

each
place,and if possible travel by road as the rods seem to be better
than a
few years ago.
Thanks

Roy



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Remove the obvious part before replying by mail please!


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Remove the obvious part before replying by mail please!
  #6  
Old May 3rd, 2004, 03:32 PM
L. Andreoli
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Default ethiopia.

Hi Nisse,

We stayed:

Bahar Dar, Gihon Hotel, 8-200111 (8- area code), Internet cafe
available,
very simple, but situated at a very cosy place at Lake Tana

Gondar, Belegez pension, 8-114356, very very simple

Axum, Africa hotel, 4-753700, reasonable

Lalibela, Bethlehem hotel 6-811425, good!

Addis Ababa, Holiday hotel, 1-612081, good, friendly & cosy

Yes there are "problems" in Lalibela concerning flees in some churches
but they are friendly and disappear after some time.

Most hotels have NO mail possibilities

I would say this of Ethiopia:
Going to Eth. means BACK TO BASIC. Most hotels are no hotels in the way
we know,
sometimes there is some water for the shower, sometimes not and mostly
of coarse not warm.
If you make hotel reservations it does not mean that there is any place
when you arrive.
Internetcafe's have sometimes very bad connections etc. etc.(forget
internet in Eth.)
But go for the people, culture & country!

(lot of your questions, prices and others can be found in the "Bible"
Loneley Planet: Ėthiopia, Eritrea & Djibouti, ISBN 086442292X) You need
it!!
==================================
Lou Andreoli
Human, wildlife & nature photographer
http://www.homepages.hetnet.nl/~louine

==================================

"Nisse PowerMan" schreef in bericht
...
Hi again, I got some new questions about your trip around Ethiopia:

Hotel Recommendations for Bahar Dar, Gondar, Lalibela, Aksum and

Addis?

What hotels did you stay at?

Experience?
Price Level?
Address and phone/fax and email to hotel?
Your Recommendation?

Did you find any useful Internet Cafe around in Addis and/or

elsewhere?

Any insect problems in the Lalibela churches? I read somewhere about
flee problems in the floor rugs.


/Regards, Anders





I'm planning to buy the Historical route air ticket, any idea of

price
level locally vs back home?


No idea

Any problem to get a ticket at short notice?


No idea

What about air safety? What type of planes?


Safe flying with Fokker F50/80 for inland flights

Was there water in the falls, any special 'Falls Day' with more

water?

Yes there was, but it's not for sure you will see it every day

(depends
whether the power station operates or not)


Take from there a car (4x4 not absolute necessary but

preferable)
and
make your roundtrip via Gondar (Falisadas palace, churches

etc.),
Axum
(steles etc.), Adigrat down to the province of Tigray where a

lot
of
churches can be visited up to Lalibela (a must!)

Whats the highlights of Lalibela?


Many rock hewn churches absolute unique

From Lalibela to Addis back take again an inland flight as this

part
has
not so much highlights.


Can you give more info about visa. Must get visa in advance at

home or
is it fairly simple at the airport on arrival?


Better do it in advance

Visa cost?


About US 50,-

Visa currency? Any or only ETB?


No idea we, did it in the Netherlands

Any problems with currency exchange? Banking time in Addis and the


Change your money at the airport or at the banks in Addis (open 8 am

to
4 pm)

Historical route?


Not at Lalibela, advice: change all you think to spent at Addis

Any problems exchanging EUR, or is USD a must?


No problems, they prefer EUR but USD also no problem

Wow, wow, soooo many questions.


Wow, wow, I could not answer all your questios
Lou Andreoli
(lot of your questions and others can be found in
Loneley Planet: Ėthiopia, Eritrea & Djibouti, ISBN 086442292X)

/Regards, Anders




There is only one large touroperator in Ethiopia , it is an

Italian
one
from origin.
Look for: http://www.greenlandtours.net

Ethiopia is a beautiful country (we lived/worked there for 3

years)
For photo's and the itinerary we did, have a look at our

homepage:
http://www.homepages.hetnet.nl/~louine
If you need more info let me know
greetings,

Lou Andreoli
(Human, wildlife & nature photographer)

Lou Andreoli

"roy king" schreef in bericht
. ..
Has anyone been to Ethiopia visiting the historical towns ?I

am
looking for
someone who organises trips for two persons,maybe with a guide

at
each
place,and if possible travel by road as the rods seem to be

better
than a
few years ago.
Thanks

Roy



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  #7  
Old May 4th, 2004, 06:40 AM
eccles
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Default ethiopia.

I visited Ethiopia last year and had a great time. Due to limited
guidebooks that quickly become out of date (probably also my journal!) I put
my journal/travel guide on the Rough Guides site. Hope you find it
useful...

http://travel.roughguides.com/planni...ournalID=21967

--
Don Ecclestone,
Toronto Canada

To reply, remove the "-SPAMINATOR"
L. Andreoli wrote in message
...
Hi Nisse,

We stayed:

Bahar Dar, Gihon Hotel, 8-200111 (8- area code), Internet cafe
available,
very simple, but situated at a very cosy place at Lake Tana

Gondar, Belegez pension, 8-114356, very very simple

Axum, Africa hotel, 4-753700, reasonable

Lalibela, Bethlehem hotel 6-811425, good!

Addis Ababa, Holiday hotel, 1-612081, good, friendly & cosy

Yes there are "problems" in Lalibela concerning flees in some churches
but they are friendly and disappear after some time.

Most hotels have NO mail possibilities

I would say this of Ethiopia:
Going to Eth. means BACK TO BASIC. Most hotels are no hotels in the way
we know,
sometimes there is some water for the shower, sometimes not and mostly
of coarse not warm.
If you make hotel reservations it does not mean that there is any place
when you arrive.
Internetcafe's have sometimes very bad connections etc. etc.(forget
internet in Eth.)
But go for the people, culture & country!

(lot of your questions, prices and others can be found in the "Bible"
Loneley Planet: Ėthiopia, Eritrea & Djibouti, ISBN 086442292X) You need
it!!
==================================
Lou Andreoli
Human, wildlife & nature photographer
http://www.homepages.hetnet.nl/~louine

==================================

"Nisse PowerMan" schreef in bericht
...
Hi again, I got some new questions about your trip around Ethiopia:

Hotel Recommendations for Bahar Dar, Gondar, Lalibela, Aksum and

Addis?

What hotels did you stay at?

Experience?
Price Level?
Address and phone/fax and email to hotel?
Your Recommendation?

Did you find any useful Internet Cafe around in Addis and/or

elsewhere?

Any insect problems in the Lalibela churches? I read somewhere about
flee problems in the floor rugs.


/Regards, Anders





I'm planning to buy the Historical route air ticket, any idea of

price
level locally vs back home?

No idea

Any problem to get a ticket at short notice?

No idea

What about air safety? What type of planes?

Safe flying with Fokker F50/80 for inland flights

Was there water in the falls, any special 'Falls Day' with more

water?

Yes there was, but it's not for sure you will see it every day

(depends
whether the power station operates or not)


Take from there a car (4x4 not absolute necessary but

preferable)
and
make your roundtrip via Gondar (Falisadas palace, churches

etc.),
Axum
(steles etc.), Adigrat down to the province of Tigray where a

lot
of
churches can be visited up to Lalibela (a must!)

Whats the highlights of Lalibela?

Many rock hewn churches absolute unique

From Lalibela to Addis back take again an inland flight as this

part
has
not so much highlights.


Can you give more info about visa. Must get visa in advance at

home or
is it fairly simple at the airport on arrival?

Better do it in advance

Visa cost?

About US 50,-

Visa currency? Any or only ETB?

No idea we, did it in the Netherlands

Any problems with currency exchange? Banking time in Addis and the

Change your money at the airport or at the banks in Addis (open 8 am

to
4 pm)

Historical route?

Not at Lalibela, advice: change all you think to spent at Addis

Any problems exchanging EUR, or is USD a must?

No problems, they prefer EUR but USD also no problem

Wow, wow, soooo many questions.

Wow, wow, I could not answer all your questios
Lou Andreoli
(lot of your questions and others can be found in
Loneley Planet: Ėthiopia, Eritrea & Djibouti, ISBN 086442292X)

/Regards, Anders




There is only one large touroperator in Ethiopia , it is an

Italian
one
from origin.
Look for: http://www.greenlandtours.net

Ethiopia is a beautiful country (we lived/worked there for 3

years)
For photo's and the itinerary we did, have a look at our

homepage:
http://www.homepages.hetnet.nl/~louine
If you need more info let me know
greetings,

Lou Andreoli
(Human, wildlife & nature photographer)

Lou Andreoli

"roy king" schreef in bericht
. ..
Has anyone been to Ethiopia visiting the historical towns ?I

am
looking for
someone who organises trips for two persons,maybe with a guide

at
each
place,and if possible travel by road as the rods seem to be

better
than a
few years ago.
Thanks

Roy



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  #8  
Old May 4th, 2004, 11:44 AM
Nisse PowerMan
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Default ethiopia.

eccles wrote:

I visited Ethiopia last year and had a great time. Due to limited
guidebooks that quickly become out of date (probably also my journal!) I put
my journal/travel guide on the Rough Guides site. Hope you find it
useful...

http://travel.roughguides.com/planni...ournalID=21967

--
Don Ecclestone,
Toronto Canada



Thanks alot, it seems to be exactly what I needed now, thanks again,

/Anders

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