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Old March 17th, 2013, 12:27 PM posted to soc.retirement,alt.politics.socialism,alt.horror,alt.politics.socialism.trotsky,rec.travel.europe
bill
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Default Washington Post 03/11/13: "The Holocaust: FDR’s indelible failure"

On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 20:11:49 -0700 (PDT), dusty
wrote:

On Mar 17, 12:48*pm, Bill wrote:



* with the exception of the large numbers and capital allowed to
migrate to Palestine under the 'Transfer Agreement':
"...the agreement between Adolf Hitler and an organization of Zionist
Jews in 1933, which made Hitler "the chief economic sponsor of the
state of Israel".


Love the 'an organisation of Zionist Jews' bit.

Which organisation?




Never mind the smart arse remarks.


So it was just another lie then.

Thought so...

You deny the Transfer Agreement? Look it up Bill.


If you mean the 'Haavara Agreement, then of course not.

Being given the choice between expropriation or death isn't really
much of a choice is it...

Plus, entry into Palestine was in the gift of none of the parties
involved.

The "alternative" MAY have been death for the leaders -


99.9% certainty isn't really 'may'.

p. 117:
"Without Jewish help in administrative and police work--the final
roundup of Jews in Berlin was, as I have mentioned, done entirely by
Jewish police--there would have been either complete chaos or an
impossibly severe drain on German manpower.


What's your point?

Up0 until then the Jewish communities had a policy of cooperating with
the local authorities because they'd discovered that not doing so led
to worse consequences in the long run.

In the Nazis they came up against an enemy who exploited this and used
it against them and exterminated them.

Jews don't do that any more, or hadn't you noticed?
  #12  
Old March 17th, 2013, 11:04 PM posted to soc.retirement,alt.politics.socialism,alt.horror,alt.politics.socialism.trotsky,rec.travel.europe
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Default Washington Post 03/11/13: "The Holocaust: FDR’s indelible failure"

On Mar 17, 10:27*pm, Bill wrote:
On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 20:11:49 -0700 (PDT), dusty









wrote:
On Mar 17, 12:48*pm, Bill wrote:


* with the exception of the large numbers and capital allowed to
migrate to Palestine under the 'Transfer Agreement':
"...the agreement between Adolf Hitler and an organization of Zionist
Jews in 1933, which made Hitler "the chief economic sponsor of the
state of Israel".


Love the 'an organisation of Zionist Jews' bit.


Which organisation?


Never mind the smart arse remarks.


So it was just another lie then.

Thought so...

You deny the Transfer Agreement? Look it up Bill.


If you mean the 'Haavara Agreement, *then of course not.

Being given the choice between expropriation or death isn't really
much of a choice is it...

Plus, *entry into Palestine was in the gift of none of the parties
involved.

The "alternative" MAY have been death for the leaders -


99.9% certainty isn't really 'may'.

p. 117:
"Without Jewish help in administrative and police work--the final
roundup of Jews in Berlin was, as I have mentioned, done entirely by
Jewish police--there would have been either complete chaos or an
impossibly severe drain on German manpower.


What's your point?

Up0 until then the Jewish communities had a policy of cooperating with
the local authorities because they'd discovered that not doing so led
to worse consequences in the long run.

In the Nazis they came up against an enemy who exploited this and used
it against them and exterminated them.

Jews don't do that any more, *or hadn't you noticed?


It was the Jewish community - Zionist - leaders in Eastern Europe and
Germany who did the collaborating against the interests of the masses
of Jews, many of whom would have, as Arendt says, escaped.

Resistance ALWAYS has a price, ask the Greeks or Yugoslavs or indeed
those in the Warsaw Ghetto. Collaboration also has a price - though
the wartime Zionists have got away with it so far, thanks to fellow
travellers like yourself.


"Jews don't do that any more, or hadn't you noticed?". Yes I had: Jews
exterminate Palestinians instead. Heroic stuff!

  #13  
Old March 18th, 2013, 12:52 AM posted to soc.retirement,alt.politics.socialism,alt.horror,alt.politics.socialism.trotsky,rec.travel.europe
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Default Washington Post 03/11/13: "The Holocaust: FDR’s indelible failure"

On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 15:04:23 -0700 (PDT), dusty
wrote:


It was the Jewish community - Zionist - leaders in Eastern Europe and
Germany who did the collaborating against the interests of the masses
of Jews, many of whom would have, as Arendt says, escaped.


The people involved obviously thought they were acting in the best
interests of their community.

What else would you have them do?

Die quietly?

Resistance ALWAYS has a price, ask the Greeks or Yugoslavs or indeed
those in the Warsaw Ghetto. Collaboration also has a price - though
the wartime Zionists have got away with it so far, thanks to fellow
travellers like yourself.


Well, except the ones who died...

But hey, a few dead Jews don't matter, well, not to you anyway. You
obviously think killing Jews is a good thing.

Now, next oddity...

'Fellow traveler?

What's one of those son?

"Jews don't do that any more, or hadn't you noticed?". Yes I had: Jews
exterminate Palestinians instead. Heroic stuff!


Jews shoot back.

I know you'd much prefer them to die quietly, but they don't do that
any more.

  #14  
Old March 18th, 2013, 01:12 AM posted to soc.retirement,alt.politics.socialism,alt.horror,alt.politics.socialism.trotsky,rec.travel.europe
dusty
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Default Washington Post 03/11/13: "The Holocaust: FDR’s indelible failure"

On Mar 18, 10:52*am, Bill wrote:
On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 15:04:23 -0700 (PDT), dusty

wrote:

It was the Jewish community - Zionist - leaders in Eastern Europe and
Germany who did the collaborating against the interests of the masses
of Jews, many of whom would have, as Arendt says, escaped.


The people involved obviously thought they were acting in the best
interests of their community.

What else would you have them do?

Die quietly?

Resistance ALWAYS has a price, ask the Greeks or Yugoslavs or indeed
those in the Warsaw Ghetto. Collaboration also has a price - though
the wartime Zionists have got away with it so far, thanks to fellow
travellers like yourself.


Well, except the ones who died...

But hey, *a few dead Jews don't matter, *well, *not to you anyway. You
obviously think killing Jews is a good thing.

Now, next oddity...

'Fellow traveler?

What's one of those son?

"Jews don't do that any more, or hadn't you noticed?". Yes I had: Jews
exterminate Palestinians instead. Heroic stuff!


Jews shoot back.

I know you'd much prefer them to die quietly, but they don't do that
any more.


Never mind your **** about "loving killing Jews" you lying Zionist.

"The people involved obviously thought they were acting in the best
interests of their community."

No they acted in the best interests of Zionism which cleaned up after
the miseries of WW2 and from being nothing in many European nations
became the main international voice of the Jew.

By the way, Billy boy, how much does Israeli Hasbara pay
you....nothing? But a whore is surely worth...something.

http://occupiedpalestine.wordpress.c...b-war-hasbara/


http://electronicintifada.net/conten...ropaganda/8355



  #15  
Old March 18th, 2013, 01:35 AM posted to soc.retirement,alt.politics.socialism,alt.horror,alt.politics.socialism.trotsky,rec.travel.europe
bill
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Default Washington Post 03/11/13: "The Holocaust: FDR’s indelible failure"

On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 17:12:52 -0700 (PDT), dusty
wrote:

On Mar 18, 10:52*am, Bill wrote:



Never mind your **** about "loving killing Jews" you lying Zionist.

"The people involved obviously thought they were acting in the best
interests of their community."

No they acted in the best interests of Zionism which cleaned up after
the miseries of WW2 and from being nothing in many European nations
became the main international voice of the Jew.


Mainly because most of the other Jews were dead.

What remnant was left decided that militant Zionism was about the
only way to guarantee that it didn't happen again.

What you have preferred them to have done?

Actually, we know. You'd have preferred them to have died quietly.

By the way, Billy boy, how much does Israeli Hasbara pay
you....nothing? But a whore is surely worth...something.

http://occupiedpalestine.wordpress.c...b-war-hasbara/


http://electronicintifada.net/conten...ropaganda/8355


Of course I'm well paid.

I pull about $60,000 a year from Israel, and about double that from
the government of the USA.

You mean you're not paid?

How quaint...

  #16  
Old March 18th, 2013, 01:50 AM posted to soc.retirement,alt.politics.socialism,alt.horror,alt.politics.socialism.trotsky,rec.travel.europe
dusty
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Default Washington Post 03/11/13: "The Holocaust: FDR’s indelible failure"

On Mar 18, 11:35*am, Bill wrote:
On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 17:12:52 -0700 (PDT), dusty

wrote:
On Mar 18, 10:52*am, Bill wrote:
Never mind your **** about "loving killing Jews" you lying Zionist.


"The people involved obviously thought they were acting in the best
interests of their community."


No they acted in the best interests of Zionism which cleaned up after
the miseries of WW2 and from being nothing in many European nations
became the main international voice of the Jew.


Mainly because most of the other Jews were dead.

*What remnant was left decided that militant Zionism was about the
only way to guarantee that it didn't happen again.

What you have preferred them to have done?

Actually, we know. *You'd have preferred them to have died quietly.

By the way, Billy boy, how much does Israeli Hasbara pay
you....nothing? But a whore is surely worth...something.


http://occupiedpalestine.wordpress.c...E2%96%B6-the-w...


http://electronicintifada.net/conten...id-spread-isra...


Of course I'm well paid.

I pull about $60,000 *a year from Israel, *and about double that from
the government of the USA.

You mean you're not paid?

How quaint...


"I pull about $60,000 a year from Israel, and about double that
from
the government of the USA."


Enough said: dual citizen with loyalty to Israel and the Zionist
projects. The $60,000 of course ultimately comes from the American
taxpayer.

  #17  
Old March 18th, 2013, 01:58 AM posted to soc.retirement,alt.politics.socialism,alt.horror,alt.politics.socialism.trotsky,rec.travel.europe
bill
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Default Washington Post 03/11/13: "The Holocaust: FDR’s indelible failure"

On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 17:50:43 -0700 (PDT), dusty
wrote:

On Mar 18, 11:35*am, Bill wrote:
On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 17:12:52 -0700 (PDT), dusty

wrote:
On Mar 18, 10:52*am, Bill wrote:
Never mind your **** about "loving killing Jews" you lying Zionist.


"The people involved obviously thought they were acting in the best
interests of their community."


No they acted in the best interests of Zionism which cleaned up after
the miseries of WW2 and from being nothing in many European nations
became the main international voice of the Jew.


Mainly because most of the other Jews were dead.

*What remnant was left decided that militant Zionism was about the
only way to guarantee that it didn't happen again.

What you have preferred them to have done?

Actually, we know. *You'd have preferred them to have died quietly.

By the way, Billy boy, how much does Israeli Hasbara pay
you....nothing? But a whore is surely worth...something.


http://occupiedpalestine.wordpress.c...E2%96%B6-the-w...


http://electronicintifada.net/conten...id-spread-isra...


Of course I'm well paid.

I pull about $60,000 *a year from Israel, *and about double that from
the government of the USA.

You mean you're not paid?

How quaint...


"I pull about $60,000 a year from Israel, and about double that
from
the government of the USA."


Enough said: dual citizen with loyalty to Israel and the Zionist
projects.


Goodness no.

I am a citizen of neither and owe loyalty only to Perfidious Albion.

I just do it for the money.

We all do.

It is an aspect of my membership of the Illuminati that makes it all
so much fun...

The $60,000 of course ultimately comes from the American
taxpayer.


You're not terribly bright are you...
  #18  
Old March 18th, 2013, 02:01 AM posted to soc.retirement,alt.politics.socialism,alt.horror,alt.politics.socialism.trotsky,rec.travel.europe
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Default Washington Post 03/11/13: "The Holocaust: FDR’s indelible failure"

On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 15:04:23 -0700 (PDT), dusty wrote:

On Mar 17, 10:27*pm, Bill wrote:
On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 20:11:49 -0700 (PDT), dusty









wrote:
On Mar 17, 12:48*pm, Bill wrote:


* with the exception of the large numbers and capital allowed to
migrate to Palestine under the 'Transfer Agreement':
"...the agreement between Adolf Hitler and an organization of Zionist
Jews in 1933, which made Hitler "the chief economic sponsor of the
state of Israel".


Love the 'an organisation of Zionist Jews' bit.


Which organisation?


Never mind the smart arse remarks.


So it was just another lie then.

Thought so...

You deny the Transfer Agreement? Look it up Bill.


If you mean the 'Haavara Agreement, *then of course not.

Being given the choice between expropriation or death isn't really
much of a choice is it...

Plus, *entry into Palestine was in the gift of none of the parties
involved.

The "alternative" MAY have been death for the leaders -


99.9% certainty isn't really 'may'.

p. 117:
"Without Jewish help in administrative and police work--the final
roundup of Jews in Berlin was, as I have mentioned, done entirely by
Jewish police--there would have been either complete chaos or an
impossibly severe drain on German manpower.


What's your point?

Up0 until then the Jewish communities had a policy of cooperating with
the local authorities because they'd discovered that not doing so led
to worse consequences in the long run.

In the Nazis they came up against an enemy who exploited this and used
it against them and exterminated them.

Jews don't do that any more, *or hadn't you noticed?


It was the Jewish community - Zionist - leaders in Eastern Europe and
Germany who did the collaborating against the interests of the masses
of Jews, many of whom would have, as Arendt says, escaped.

No proof offered. Your claim fails, neo-Nazi Jew-baiter.

Resistance ALWAYS has a price, ask the Greeks or Yugoslavs or indeed
those in the Warsaw Ghetto. Collaboration also has a price - though
the wartime Zionists have got away with it so far, thanks to fellow
travellers like yourself.


No proof offered. Your claim fails, neo-Nazi racist.

"Jews don't do that any more, or hadn't you noticed?". Yes I had: Jews
exterminate Palestinians instead. Heroic stuff!


No proof offered. Your claim fails, neo-Nazi.



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