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Top scenic drives in Europe?
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 14:15:46 +0200, Frank Hucklenbroich wrote in post :
: (you come through Italy for a bit before you get back into Switzerland, so keep your passport ready, as you will be checked) You shouldn't be any more. Only when entering/leaving Lichtenstein. -- Tim C. |
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On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 14:31:48 +0200, Erick T. Barkhuis wrote in post :
: Tim C.: I find hairpins boring after a while. You want something snaking and twisty, up and down. I'm not keen on dirt, I prefer tarmac. Quiet is important, yes! You must be a fellow bike rider. Like this? http://www.dantesdame.com/08sanfran/2-22-rt128.jpg http://www.dantesdame.com/08sanfran/5-3-rt96.jpg Curves ahead: http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1323/...56805a8f_m.jpg I am yes [www dot alpineroads dot com]. But I liked the same sort of roads (and curves) when I drive a car. :-) -- Tim C. |
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Top scenic drives in Europe?
Am Tue, 31 Mar 2009 14:32:45 +0200 schrieb Tim C.:
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 14:15:46 +0200, Frank Hucklenbroich wrote in post : : (you come through Italy for a bit before you get back into Switzerland, so keep your passport ready, as you will be checked) You shouldn't be any more. Only when entering/leaving Lichtenstein. AFAIR the police/border-guards doesn't check the persons anymore, but the (Swiss) customs can still check if you bring goods in your car. Lots of Swiss come to Germany to shop for food, as it's cheaper than in Switzerland. So the customs do check cars, if you don't bring too much food and alcohol into Switzerland. Sometimes (like right now before the NATO-summit in Strasbourg) they even check between Germany and France. Then again, they can always check, if they want - I was quite surpirsed to find a french policeman asking me for my papers last October, while taking a shortcut through France near Baden-Baden. Each and every car got checked entering France. 10 kilometres later I didn't even notice entering Germany again. No sign, no checkpoint, nothing at all. From Berne to Ascona they did even have multiple checkpoints on the Italien side, not only police/customs, but also a seperate one from the Guardia de Finacia. Apparently they were only interested in checking trucks, though (I thought it was a good idea to stop, but they waved me through). Regards, Frank |
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Top scenic drives in Europe?
Am Tue, 31 Mar 2009 14:21:33 +0200 schrieb Tim C.:
I find hairpins boring after a while. You want something snaking and twisty, up and down. I'm not keen on dirt, I prefer tarmac. I think you are looking to go on Nurburgring (Nordschleife). Unfortunately you won't be alone there... Quiet is important, yes! Then forget about it ;-) Unless you go in winter and they open it for you, like for this lucky guy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zj6qEC-uFj8 SCNR, Frank (don't try this at home!) |
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Top scenic drives in Europe?
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 14:45:59 +0200, Frank Hucklenbroich wrote in post :
t : AFAIR the police/border-guards doesn't check the persons anymore, but the (Swiss) customs can still check if you bring goods in your car. As they can and do at any Schengen border. Sometimes (like right now before the NATO-summit in Strasbourg) they even check between Germany and France. And between Austria and Germany & Italy. It's normal to temporarily suspend the Schengen agreement for special occasions. Summits, sporting events, etc. And you can still be checked at any time. -- Tim C. |
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Erick T. Barkhuis wrote:
Pentaxuser: A good driving road is probably single track*, difficult, steep, lots of bends (wide and hairpin) and above all its *quiet*. Sounds like you're describing parts of Luxembourg, near Vianden. Sounds even more like the north west of Scotland. |
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On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 13:32:45 +0100, Tim C. wrote
(in article ): On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 14:15:46 +0200, Frank Hucklenbroich wrote in post : : (you come through Italy for a bit before you get back into Switzerland, so keep your passport ready, as you will be checked) You shouldn't be any more. Only when entering/leaving Lichtenstein. I had my passport checked last year going by road from Germany to Switzerland, but no checks entering or leaving Lichtenstein -- Mike Lane UK North Yorkshire |
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"Pentaxuser" wrote in message ... Dan Stephenson wrote: countries I will definitely visit are Germany, Norway, Switzerland, Italy, and Greece. What else? (thanks!) Scottish west coast and islands There's naught wrong with the North Coast (and the roads heading inland) either - except that they are single track ;-( tim |
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tim..... wrote:
"Pentaxuser" wrote in message ... Dan Stephenson wrote: countries I will definitely visit are Germany, Norway, Switzerland, Italy, and Greece. What else? (thanks!) Scottish west coast and islands There's naught wrong with the North Coast (and the roads heading inland) either - except that they are single track ;-( More and more of the North coast has been double-tracked, and there are more, longer, passing places on many of the single-track bits. |
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On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 12:01:35 +0200, Erick T. Barkhuis wroteÂ*:
Dan Stephenson: Hi I am touring Europe by car and am seeking scenic drives. I am sure I will stumble on many beautiful drives, but it wouldn't hurt to seek all your opinions. Since you mentioned Germany (and perhaps also the Netherlands): in both countries, local authorities and the national automobile club have plotted scenic routes available. Signs along the roads show you where to go. For Germany, I would encourage you to explore the Rhine/Moselle region: http://www.germany-tourism.de/ENG/destination_germany/ master_tlfstrasse-id35.htm Less spectacular, but in a very quaint environment: the Osning route (to be expanded with two others, if you like): http://www.osnabruecker-land.de/stat...taticsite.php? menuid=22&topmenu=3&keepmenu=inactive You're probably after spectacular mountain roads, cliff coasts and such. However, if this is your traveling season and you've never been to Holland, you might consider the tulip fields, North Sea Dunes and old fishermen-villages 'scenic' as well. http://www.anwb.nl/auto/rijden/poi-e...-of-interest-- poi-.html (ITN files for TomTom; Google for "ANWB Routes" for more information) Ah, well. There's so much to see. And you're not even geocaching... Perpignan to Andorra through Conflent and Cerdagne. http://www.prades-tourisme.com/new/indexEngels.html http://www.eus-village.com/ http://leportailferroviaire.free.fr/...ne/conflen.htm http://www.porte-puymorens.net/ http://www.pyrenees-cerdagne.com/index2.html http://www.font-romeu.fr/ANGLAIS/index.php http://www.saillagouse.com/saillagouse2.htm http://www.languedoc.visite.org/EN/ |
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