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Old May 5th, 2010, 12:26 PM posted to alt.activism.death-penalty,uk.politics.misc,aus.politics,soc.retirement,rec.travel.europe
Tis Odonovan, Himself
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Who Bombed Times Square? Must Be the Swedish Grandmother
Wednesday, May 05, 2010
By Ben Shapiro
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Pretend for a moment that you are a New York detective. It is May 1,
2010, and a hot dog vendor has discovered a green SUV parked on West
45th Street near Broadway, just off of Times Square, emitting smoke.
The bomb squad has already determined that the vehicle contains
propane tanks, gasoline, fireworks and an alarm clock rigged to set
off a massive explosion.

Imagine you are tasked with finding the perpetrator. Where do you
start your investigation? Do you start with: (A) a right-winger
opposed to the health bill; (B) a Swedish grandmother upset at losing
the ticket lottery for “Next to Normal”; or (C) a radical Muslim
trying to kill Americans?

If you’re New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, your answer is (A).
“If I had to guess, twenty five cents, this would be exactly that,”
Bloomberg posited. “Homegrown maybe a mentally deranged person or
someone with a political agenda that doesn’t like the health care bill
or something. It could be anything.”

If you’re Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano, your answer
is (B). “Right now, every lead has to be pursued,” said Napolitano the
day after the attempted bombing. “I caution against premature
decisions one way or another.” Napolitano’s Homeland Security
Department immediately released photographs of a white guy changing
his shirt in the area and plastered those pictures all over the
Internet. Turns out the guy was probably just warm and wanted to shed
his overshirt.

If you’re a rational human being, your answer is (C). Since President
Obama took office, there have been four Muslim terror incidents on
American soil. On June 1, 2009, Muslim convert Abdulhakim Mujahid
Muhammad drove up to a military recruiting station and opened fire,
killing one private and wounding another. It took President Obama two
days to comment on the shooting.

On Nov. 5, 2009, Muslim militant Nidal Malik Hasan murdered 13 people
and wounded 30 others at Fort Hood in Texas. Obama’s immediate
response: “I would caution against jumping to conclusions.” On Dec.
25, 2009, Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab attempted to bomb Northwest
Airlines Flight 253 with 289 people aboard. Obama responded by giving
Abdulmutallab a lawyer and reading him his Miranda rights. Finally,
there was the attempted Times Square bombing, during which the Obama
administration reacted with confusion and caution.

There has been one high-profile violent incident perpetrated by a
right-winger since Obama took office: the May 31, 2009 shooting of
abortionist George Tiller. There have been a bevy of high-profile
violent incidents by registered Democrats or liberals: the suicide
airplane attack by Joseph Stack of Austin, Texas, against the IRS; the
liberal who bit off the finger of an ObamaCare opponent in Thousand
Oaks, Calif.; the murderous rampage by Obama-lover Amy Bishop at the
University of Alabama; the beating of black man Kenneth Gladney by
Service Employee International Union thugs in St. Louis; the Earth
Liberation Front’s destruction of KRKO-AM’s radio towers in Seattle.

None of these incidents by non-Muslim Americans were designed to
create mass casualties among random Americans or members of the
American military. All of the radical Muslim attacks were. Using
rudimentary reasoning skills, it wouldn’t take long to hit on the
hypothesis that perhaps the Times Square attempted bombing was linked
to a radical Muslim.

But we live in a country where rudimentary reasoning skills have been
banned if they offend politically correct sensibilities. So our
politicians suggest that tea partiers were behind the attempted
bombing (that suggestion, not coincidentally, fits with President
Obama’s attempts to label his domestic political opponents
terrorists). They suggest that it could have been anybody—anybody! --
behind the propane, gas and gunpowder. Meanwhile, they don’t place
radical Muslim terrorists on no-fly lists. Only when the proof is
indisputable do they finally confirm what everybody with half a brain
suspected all along—and then they hope to get lucky.

It’s fair for Obama to tell us not to jump to conclusions on the heels
of a terrorist attack. But that’s not what Obama and his allies do.
Instead, they jump to wrong conclusions purposefully and maliciously.
They misallocate resources to deal with the fictional threats they
create in their own minds. And our true enemies laugh.

Radical Muslims know what they want to do, and they know we know what
they want to do—but worst of all, they know we will do nothing. One of
these days, our law enforcement won’t be so lucky, and our deliberate
self-delusions will result in the spilled blood of our citizens"

source:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/125b4zEvleths
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Old May 5th, 2010, 01:34 PM posted to alt.activism.death-penalty,uk.politics.misc,aus.politics,soc.retirement,rec.travel.europe
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On Wed, 5 May 2010 04:26:22 -0700 (PDT), "Tis Odonovan, Himself"
wrote:

Who Bombed Times Square? Must Be the Swedish Grandmother
Wednesday, May 05, 2010
By Ben Shapiro
Listen to Commentary Podcasts


It’s fair for Obama to tell us not to jump to conclusions on the heels
of a terrorist attack. But that’s not what Obama and his allies do.
Instead, they jump to wrong conclusions purposefully and maliciously.
They misallocate resources to deal with the fictional threats they
create in their own minds. And our true enemies laugh.


Timothy McVeigh was not a fictional threat to public safety, nor is
the "Christian" Hutaree Militia.

The point is that while "terrorists" certainly can be Islamofascists
.... they can also be disgruntled right-wing gun-nuts, or even a loner
whackjob. That's why officials must not jump to the wrong conclusion
that it can ONLY ever be Radical Muslims responsible.
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Old May 5th, 2010, 04:00 PM posted to alt.activism.death-penalty,uk.politics.misc,aus.politics,soc.retirement,rec.travel.europe
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"ralph" wrote in message
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On Wed, 5 May 2010 04:26:22 -0700 (PDT), "Tis Odonovan, Himself"
wrote:

Who Bombed Times Square? Must Be the Swedish Grandmother
Wednesday, May 05, 2010
By Ben Shapiro
Listen to Commentary Podcasts


It's fair for Obama to tell us not to jump to conclusions on the heels
of a terrorist attack. But that's not what Obama and his allies do.
Instead, they jump to wrong conclusions purposefully and maliciously.
They misallocate resources to deal with the fictional threats they
create in their own minds. And our true enemies laugh.


Timothy McVeigh was not a fictional threat to public safety, nor is
the "Christian" Hutaree Militia.


The 'Christian' Hutaree militia never killed anyone, they talked about
doing it and now it's coming out that's ALL they ever did.

BTW, there are some reports that suggest that Timothy McVeigh
did have islamic co-conspirators:

http://www.libertarianrepublican.net...terrorist.html

"Hussein-al-Husseini, an Iraqi soldier in Saddam Hussein's Army, sat beside
Timothy McVeigh in the Ryder
truck financed by Ramzi Youseff (Khalid Sheik Muhammad's nephew). The
Oklahoma City bombing, 15 years ago,
was the first heinous Islamic terror attack on American soil."

However, I don't think that was the first instance of islamonazi terrorism
on
US soil. I think the murder of Robert F. Kennedy, heir apparent to the
Democratic
nomination for POTUS by a muslime scumbag takes that crown.


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Old May 5th, 2010, 04:50 PM posted to alt.activism.death-penalty,uk.politics.misc,aus.politics,soc.retirement,rec.travel.europe
Earl Evleth[_1_]
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On 5/05/10 17:00, in article , "Doug"
wrote:

BTW, there are some reports that suggest that Timothy McVeigh
did have islamic co-conspirators:


What nonsense, the American nation is full of idiots who believe that?

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Old May 5th, 2010, 06:43 PM posted to alt.activism.death-penalty,uk.politics.misc,soc.retirement,rec.travel.europe
Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)[_3_]
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Earl Evleth wrote:

On 5/05/10 17:00, in article , "Doug"
wrote:

BTW, there are some reports that suggest that Timothy McVeigh
did have islamic co-conspirators:


What nonsense, the American nation is full of idiots who believe that?

There were claims that Terry Nichols went to Pakistan and when he
came back, their bomb making skills had improved like Robert
Johnson's ability to play guitar. So some suspected that he'd met
with other terrorists. The working together thing isn't unknown,
ETA, FARC and the Real IRA were caught collaborating and
information sharing some years ago.



--
"It is illuminating for purposes of reflection, if not for
argument, to note that one of the greatest 'fictions' of our
federal system is that the Congress exercises only those powers
delegated to it, while the remainder are reserved to the States or
to the people. The manner in which this Court has construed the
Commerce Clause amply illustrates the extent of this fiction.",
Hodel v. Virginia Surface Mining, 452 U.S. 264, 307 (1981)
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Old May 5th, 2010, 08:24 PM posted to alt.activism.death-penalty,uk.politics.misc,soc.retirement,rec.travel.europe
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On 5/05/10 19:43, in article , "Bill Bonde
{Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)"
wrote:

There were claims that Terry Nichols went to Pakistan and when he
came back,



Cite.

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Old May 5th, 2010, 09:24 PM posted to alt.activism.death-penalty,uk.politics.misc,soc.retirement,rec.travel.europe
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Donna Evleth wrote:

From: "Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)"

Organization: Our legacy is not the lives we lived but the lives we leave to
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Date: Wed, 05 May 2010 17:43:26 +0000
Subject: Who Bombed Times Square? Must Be the Swedish Grandmother



Earl Evleth wrote:

On 5/05/10 17:00, in article , "Doug"
wrote:

BTW, there are some reports that suggest that Timothy McVeigh
did have islamic co-conspirators:

What nonsense, the American nation is full of idiots who believe that?

There were claims that Terry Nichols went to Pakistan and when he
came back, their bomb making skills had improved like Robert
Johnson's ability to play guitar. So some suspected that he'd met
with other terrorists. The working together thing isn't unknown,
ETA, FARC and the Real IRA were caught collaborating and
information sharing some years ago.


Proof please, William. I had not heard this rumor about Terry Nichols. All
I read about this Midwestern boy make such a theory unlikely. So, proof,
please, William.

Wikipedia says he married a woman from the Philippines:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Nichols
#begin quote
In 1990, Nichols married a 17 year old woman, Marife Torres, from
the Philippines whom he met through a mail-order bride agency.[
#end quote

This argues yes:

http://intelwire.egoplex.com/nichols022004.html

This argues no:

http://www.fair.org/extra/0207/mcveigh.html
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Old May 5th, 2010, 09:27 PM posted to alt.activism.death-penalty,uk.politics.misc,soc.retirement,rec.travel.europe
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From: "Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)"

Organization: Our legacy is not the lives we lived but the lives we leave to
those who come after us.
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Date: Wed, 05 May 2010 17:43:26 +0000
Subject: Who Bombed Times Square? Must Be the Swedish Grandmother



Earl Evleth wrote:

On 5/05/10 17:00, in article , "Doug"
wrote:

BTW, there are some reports that suggest that Timothy McVeigh
did have islamic co-conspirators:


What nonsense, the American nation is full of idiots who believe that?

There were claims that Terry Nichols went to Pakistan and when he
came back, their bomb making skills had improved like Robert
Johnson's ability to play guitar. So some suspected that he'd met
with other terrorists. The working together thing isn't unknown,
ETA, FARC and the Real IRA were caught collaborating and
information sharing some years ago.


Proof please, William. I had not heard this rumor about Terry Nichols. All
I read about this Midwestern boy make such a theory unlikely. So, proof,
please, William.

Donna Evleth


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Old May 5th, 2010, 09:35 PM posted to alt.activism.death-penalty,uk.politics.misc,soc.retirement,rec.travel.europe
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Earl Evleth wrote:

On 5/05/10 19:43, in article , "Bill Bonde
{Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)"
wrote:

There were claims that Terry Nichols went to Pakistan and when he
came back,


Cite.

I mistyped, I meant to say that there were claims he went to the
Philippines, those seem true from what I can tell, and learned bomb
making skills, I can find conflicting views on that. It's not
unbelievable at all that he'd contact someone who was knowledgeable
about bombs to learn to build his OK bomb.



--
"It is illuminating for purposes of reflection, if not for
argument, to note that one of the greatest 'fictions' of our
federal system is that the Congress exercises only those powers
delegated to it, while the remainder are reserved to the States or
to the people. The manner in which this Court has construed the
Commerce Clause amply illustrates the extent of this fiction.",
Hodel v. Virginia Surface Mining, 452 U.S. 264, 307 (1981)
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Old May 5th, 2010, 09:36 PM posted to alt.activism.death-penalty,uk.politics.misc,aus.politics,soc.retirement,rec.travel.europe
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On May 5, 10:50�am, Earl Evleth wrote:
On 5/05/10 17:00, in article , "Doug"

wrote:
BTW, there are some reports that suggest that Timothy McVeigh
did have islamic co-conspirators:


What nonsense, the American nation is full of idiots who believe that?


And the world if full of idiots that think the Tea Party is a racist,
right-wing militant group.

Jigasaw
 




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