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BREAKING: CBS ABC NewYorkTimes report B. Hussein Obama AdministrationRemoved Faisal Shahzad From Bush Terror Surveillance List Before Attack



 
 
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Old May 8th, 2010, 01:15 PM posted to alt.activism.death-penalty,uk.politics.misc,aus.politics,soc.retirement,rec.travel.europe
Tis Odonovan, Himself
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Default BREAKING: CBS ABC NewYorkTimes report B. Hussein Obama AdministrationRemoved Faisal Shahzad From Bush Terror Surveillance List Before Attack

BREAKING: CBS ABC NewYorkTimes report B. Hussein Obama Administration
Removed Faisal Shahzad From Bush Terror Surveillance List Before
Attack

http://preview.tinyurl.com/128c4zEvleths

excerpts:

"...Sources tell CBS News that would-be Times Square bomber Faisal
Shahzad appeared on a Department of Homeland Security travel lookout
list – Traveler Enforcement Compliance System (TECS) – between 1999
and 2008 because he brought approximately $80,000 cash or cash
instruments into the United States...

.....The New York Times reported that the person who bought Faisal’s
apartment back in 2004 was interviewed by federal investigators.....


ABC reported

....Faisal Shahzad had contacts with several other terrorist leaders
including the radical American-born Muslim cleric Anwar Awlaki, the
Taliban Chief, and the Mumbai Massacre mastermind.......

......Shahzad also had a web of jihadist contacts that included big
names tied to terror attacks in the U.S. and abroad....

....Barack Obama began shutting down Bush-era terrorist investigations
last year including the investigation of Faisal Shahzad......"
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Old May 8th, 2010, 01:31 PM posted to alt.activism.death-penalty,uk.politics.misc,aus.politics,soc.retirement,rec.travel.europe
GLOBALIST
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Default BREAKING: CBS ABC NewYorkTimes report B. Hussein ObamaAdministration Removed Faisal Shahzad From Bush Terror Surveillance ListBefore Attack

On May 8, 7:15*am, "Tis Odonovan, Himself" wrote:
BREAKING: CBS ABC NewYorkTimes report B. Hussein Obama Administration
Removed Faisal Shahzad From Bush Terror Surveillance List Before
Attack

http://preview.tinyurl.com/128c4zEvleths

excerpts:

"...Sources tell CBS News that would-be Times Square bomber Faisal
Shahzad appeared on a Department of Homeland Security travel lookout
list – Traveler Enforcement Compliance System (TECS) – between 1999
and 2008 because he brought approximately $80,000 cash or cash
instruments into the United States...

....The New York Times reported that the person who bought Faisal’s
apartment back in 2004 was interviewed by federal investigators.....

ABC reported

...Faisal Shahzad had contacts with several other terrorist leaders
including the radical American-born Muslim cleric Anwar Awlaki, the
Taliban Chief, and the Mumbai Massacre mastermind.......

.....Shahzad also had a web of jihadist contacts that included big
names tied to terror attacks in the U.S. and abroad....

...Barack Obama began shutting down Bush-era terrorist investigations
last year including the investigation of Faisal Shahzad......"


Did the bomb go off? Was anyone injured or killed? Was he not
immediately pin pointed and captured? Just like the Undi Bomber.The
FBI and the NY police dept did an excellent job. Civilians sensing
potential danger is our best defense.
  #3  
Old May 8th, 2010, 02:53 PM posted to alt.activism.death-penalty,uk.politics.misc,aus.politics,soc.retirement,rec.travel.europe
Earl Evleth[_1_]
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Default BREAKING: CBS ABC NewYorkTimes report B. Hussein ObamaAdministration Removed Faisal Shahzad From Bush Terror Surveillance ListBefore Attack

On 8/05/10 14:31, in article
,
"GLOBALIST" wrote:

Did the bomb go off? Was anyone injured or killed? Was he not
immediately pin pointed and captured? Just like the Undi Bomber.The
FBI and the NY police dept did an excellent job. Civilians sensing
potential danger is our best defense.


So far the Taliban has not been successful in internationalizing
their activities, this attack is one more example. The
nature of the various Taliban groups and Al Qaeda is also not clear.
One major area of conflict is that Al Qaeda is Arab and that clashes
with both the Afghans and Pakistanis.

Next FBI surveillance of various people is not non-stop, there are
too may of them to other than focus on a few. They carry out
interviews (I was interview once by them concerning a friend
(remote) who had applied for a government position. If any
bells an whistles sound off they go further in vetting.

I should imagine that the visits of American resident Pakistanis
back to Pakistan is monitored to some extent to see if the traffic
is unusual. People will travel back to see their families.
Shahzad appears to have had exceptional behavior, obtaining
his citizenship then taking off for months and his house
being foreclosed on because he stopped paying. It seems obvious
that this kind of input is not sufficiently monitored. For
instance the 9/11 terrorist teams were pretty careful most not to
behave in an unusual fashion except with their flight school
behaviors. Nobody was cross examining in those days, maybe
they still are not. So there is work to be done.

Judging from the blocking of terrorist activity (so far) in France
the authorities apparently are killing various projects in the egg.
We have had no incidents in 15 years, which is exceptional
when one considers that prior to that time and during to totality
of our various stays in France (since 1967) terrorist bombings
were regular, perhaps 50 such incidents from 1967-1996 and nothing
after.

I think it is claimed that the US has tried and convicted some 400 for
for terrorists acts in recent years. So a few will still happened,
hopefully they will remain keystone terrorists who their candidates
from groupies like Shahzad.





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Old May 8th, 2010, 06:04 PM posted to alt.activism.death-penalty,uk.politics.misc,aus.politics,soc.retirement,rec.travel.europe
Donna Evleth[_1_]
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Default BREAKING: CBS ABC NewYorkTimes report B. Hussein ObamaAdministration Removed Faisal Shahzad From Bush Terror Surveillance ListBefore Attack



From: GLOBALIST
Organization: http://groups.google.com
Newsgroups:
alt.activism.death-penalty,uk.politics.misc,aus.politics,soc.retireme nt,rec.tr
avel.europe
Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 05:31:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: BREAKING: CBS ABC NewYorkTimes report B. Hussein Obama
Administration Removed Faisal Shahzad From Bush Terror Surveillance List
Before Attack

On May 8, 7:15*am, "Tis Odonovan, Himself" wrote:
BREAKING: CBS ABC NewYorkTimes report B. Hussein Obama Administration
Removed Faisal Shahzad From Bush Terror Surveillance List Before
Attack

http://preview.tinyurl.com/128c4zEvleths

excerpts:

"...Sources tell CBS News that would-be Times Square bomber Faisal
Shahzad appeared on a Department of Homeland Security travel lookout
list * Traveler Enforcement Compliance System (TECS) * between 1999
and 2008 because he brought approximately $80,000 cash or cash
instruments into the United States...

....The New York Times reported that the person who bought Faisal¹s
apartment back in 2004 was interviewed by federal investigators.....

ABC reported

...Faisal Shahzad had contacts with several other terrorist leaders
including the radical American-born Muslim cleric Anwar Awlaki, the
Taliban Chief, and the Mumbai Massacre mastermind.......

.....Shahzad also had a web of jihadist contacts that included big
names tied to terror attacks in the U.S. and abroad....

...Barack Obama began shutting down Bush-era terrorist investigations
last year including the investigation of Faisal Shahzad......"


Did the bomb go off? Was anyone injured or killed? Was he not
immediately pin pointed and captured? Just like the Undi Bomber.The
FBI and the NY police dept did an excellent job. Civilians sensing
potential danger is our best defense.


After 9/11, passengers on airplanes no longer sat still believing that the
hijackers would do them no harm. Now they react, quickly and efficiently.
Richard Reid knows something about this.

Donna Evleth

  #5  
Old May 8th, 2010, 07:02 PM posted to alt.activism.death-penalty,uk.politics.misc,aus.politics,soc.retirement,rec.travel.europe
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Default BREAKING: CBS ABC NewYorkTimes report B. Hussein ObamaAdministration Removed Faisal Shahzad From Bush Terror Surveillance ListBefore Attack

On May 8, 8:15*am, "Tis Odonovan, Himself" wrote:
BREAKING: CBS ABC NewYorkTimes report B. Hussein Obama Administration
Removed Faisal Shahzad From Bush Terror Surveillance List Before
Attack

http://preview.tinyurl.com/128c4zEvleths

excerpts:

"...Sources tell CBS News that would-be Times Square bomber Faisal
Shahzad appeared on a Department of Homeland Security travel lookout
list – Traveler Enforcement Compliance System (TECS) – between 1999
and 2008 because he brought approximately $80,000 cash or cash
instruments into the United States...

....The New York Times reported that the person who bought Faisal’s
apartment back in 2004 was interviewed by federal investigators.....

ABC reported

...Faisal Shahzad had contacts with several other terrorist leaders
including the radical American-born Muslim cleric Anwar Awlaki, the
Taliban Chief, and the Mumbai Massacre mastermind.......

.....Shahzad also had a web of jihadist contacts that included big
names tied to terror attacks in the U.S. and abroad....

...Barack Obama began shutting down Bush-era terrorist investigations
last year including the investigation of Faisal Shahzad......"


A selected reader's response:

copperpeony - May 6th, 2010 at 10:24 pm
"Barack Obama began shutting down Bush-era terrorist investigations
last year including the investigation of Faisal Shahzad."

Why am I not surprised. There are NO terrorists out there according to
Obama. Only malcontents and Bush must've been crazy to put these fine
people on a terrorist list. Can you say "incompetent?" Can you say
"inexperienced?" Can you say "muslim jihadist sympathizer?" Can you
say "The sweetest song heard in the universe is the Islam prayer
according to Obamao"? Can you say " NO profiling?" Can you bow low
enough? Can you salute the flag holding on to your crotch?

Hello Sharia Law and NWO according to our own "Illegal-In-Chief". We
are the only country on this planet that is a Republic and not
Socialst-Commie-Marxist. LETS KEEP IT THIS WAY!!"

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Old May 8th, 2010, 07:46 PM posted to alt.activism.death-penalty,uk.politics.misc,aus.politics,soc.retirement,rec.travel.europe
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Default evleth knows best, please agree with her, or else...PLONK !

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"Donna Evleth" a écrit dans le message de groupe de
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From: GLOBALIST
Organization: http://groups.google.com
Newsgroups:
alt.activism.death-penalty,uk.politics.misc,aus.politics,soc.retireme nt,rec.tr
avel.europe
Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 05:31:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: BREAKING: CBS ABC NewYorkTimes report B. Hussein Obama
Administration Removed Faisal Shahzad From Bush Terror Surveillance List
Before Attack

On May 8, 7:15 am, "Tis Odonovan, Himself" wrote:
BREAKING: CBS ABC NewYorkTimes report B. Hussein Obama Administration
Removed Faisal Shahzad From Bush Terror Surveillance List Before
Attack

http://preview.tinyurl.com/128c4zEvleths

excerpts:

"...Sources tell CBS News that would-be Times Square bomber Faisal
Shahzad appeared on a Department of Homeland Security travel lookout
list * Traveler Enforcement Compliance System (TECS) * between 1999
and 2008 because he brought approximately $80,000 cash or cash
instruments into the United States...

....The New York Times reported that the person who bought Faisal¹s
apartment back in 2004 was interviewed by federal investigators.....

ABC reported

...Faisal Shahzad had contacts with several other terrorist leaders
including the radical American-born Muslim cleric Anwar Awlaki, the
Taliban Chief, and the Mumbai Massacre mastermind.......

.....Shahzad also had a web of jihadist contacts that included big
names tied to terror attacks in the U.S. and abroad....

...Barack Obama began shutting down Bush-era terrorist investigations
last year including the investigation of Faisal Shahzad......"


Did the bomb go off? Was anyone injured or killed? Was he not
immediately pin pointed and captured? Just like the Undi Bomber.The
FBI and the NY police dept did an excellent job. Civilians sensing
potential danger is our best defense.


After 9/11, passengers on airplanes no longer sat still believing that the
hijackers would do them no harm. Now they react, quickly and efficiently.
Richard Reid knows something about this.

Donna Evleth

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Old May 8th, 2010, 09:51 PM posted to alt.activism.death-penalty,uk.politics.misc,aus.politics,soc.retirement,rec.travel.europe
Brian[_1_]
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Default BREAKING: CBS ABC NewYorkTimes report B. Hussein Obama Administration Removed Faisal Shahzad From Bush Terror Surveillance List Before Attack

On Sat, 8 May 2010 05:31:13 -0700 (PDT), GLOBALIST
wrote:


Did the bomb go off? Was anyone injured or killed? Was he not
immediately pin pointed and captured? Just like the Undi Bomber.The
FBI and the NY police dept did an excellent job. Civilians sensing
potential danger is our best defense.


It didn't go off because the bomber was incompetent; not because the
U.S. broke up the plot. We can't be certain that they won't improve.
The first WTC bombing wasn't too successful. Obviously the second one
was.
I would prefer to a security policy based on something other than
luck.
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Old May 8th, 2010, 10:03 PM posted to alt.activism.death-penalty,uk.politics.misc,aus.politics,soc.retirement,rec.travel.europe
ODONOVAN, Himself
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Default BREAKING: CBS ABC NewYorkTimes report B. Hussein ObamaAdministration Removed Faisal Shahzad From Bush Terror Surveillance ListBefore Attack

On May 8, 8:15*am, "Tis Odonovan, Himself" wrote:
BREAKING: CBS ABC NewYorkTimes report B. Hussein Obama Administration
Removed Faisal Shahzad From Bush Terror Surveillance List Before
Attack

http://preview.tinyurl.com/128c4zEvleths

excerpts:

"...Sources tell CBS News that would-be Times Square bomber Faisal
Shahzad appeared on a Department of Homeland Security travel lookout
list – Traveler Enforcement Compliance System (TECS) – between 1999
and 2008 because he brought approximately $80,000 cash or cash
instruments into the United States...

....The New York Times reported that the person who bought Faisal’s
apartment back in 2004 was interviewed by federal investigators.....

ABC reported

...Faisal Shahzad had contacts with several other terrorist leaders
including the radical American-born Muslim cleric Anwar Awlaki, the
Taliban Chief, and the Mumbai Massacre mastermind.......

.....Shahzad also had a web of jihadist contacts that included big
names tied to terror attacks in the U.S. and abroad....

...Barack Obama began shutting down Bush-era terrorist investigations
last year including the investigation of Faisal Shahzad......"


Another comment from the reader of the article:

XrayEye - May 6th, 2010 at 10:31 pm
Removed from the terror watch list. The slow simmer this unqualified
president is putting America through
are in my view grounds for impeachment. Yet because of color, the
powers that will be will never even consider it because if addressed
this country will burn. It won't be those nasty white christians
rioting and looting with children in hand. It will those that support
this man. And because of the "burn factor" obama will be given a pass
all for the sake of order. Even those considered right wing in our
government will bow and do anything and everything possible to prevent
the masses from doing the right thing which is to prosecute and
convict those responsible. But it will never happen since at the end
of the day they are all in bed together
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Old May 9th, 2010, 08:09 AM posted to alt.activism.death-penalty,uk.politics.misc,aus.politics,soc.retirement,rec.travel.europe
Runge121
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Default evleth the OT crosspost groupie



"Earl Evleth" a écrit dans le message de groupe de
discussion : ...
On 8/05/10 14:31, in article
,
"GLOBALIST" wrote:

Did the bomb go off? Was anyone injured or killed? Was he not
immediately pin pointed and captured? Just like the Undi Bomber.The
FBI and the NY police dept did an excellent job. Civilians sensing
potential danger is our best defense.


So far the Taliban has not been successful in internationalizing
their activities, this attack is one more example. The
nature of the various Taliban groups and Al Qaeda is also not clear.
One major area of conflict is that Al Qaeda is Arab and that clashes
with both the Afghans and Pakistanis.

Next FBI surveillance of various people is not non-stop, there are
too may of them to other than focus on a few. They carry out
interviews (I was interview once by them concerning a friend
(remote) who had applied for a government position. If any
bells an whistles sound off they go further in vetting.

I should imagine that the visits of American resident Pakistanis
back to Pakistan is monitored to some extent to see if the traffic
is unusual. People will travel back to see their families.
Shahzad appears to have had exceptional behavior, obtaining
his citizenship then taking off for months and his house
being foreclosed on because he stopped paying. It seems obvious
that this kind of input is not sufficiently monitored. For
instance the 9/11 terrorist teams were pretty careful most not to
behave in an unusual fashion except with their flight school
behaviors. Nobody was cross examining in those days, maybe
they still are not. So there is work to be done.

Judging from the blocking of terrorist activity (so far) in France
the authorities apparently are killing various projects in the egg.
We have had no incidents in 15 years, which is exceptional
when one considers that prior to that time and during to totality
of our various stays in France (since 1967) terrorist bombings
were regular, perhaps 50 such incidents from 1967-1996 and nothing
after.

I think it is claimed that the US has tried and convicted some 400 for
for terrorists acts in recent years. So a few will still happened,
hopefully they will remain keystone terrorists who their candidates
from groupies like Shahzad.





 




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