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Old July 13th, 2004, 05:44 PM
PTRAVEL
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What are readers thoughts on travelling to Asia and spending big $$$
to stay in an expensive hotel? Would people prefer to stay in a
hostel given that hotels should only b eused to sleep in?


Rather judgmental of you, don't you think?

When we travel, anywhere, we prefer to stay in nice hotels. We like a

quiet
room, a comfortable bed, clean bathroom with a generous tub, hot shower,
etc. We like our privacy. We like having a base of operations which,

among
other things, has the support of a competent concierge, a business

center,
reliable phone service, etc.

What may seem like big $$$ to you, isn't big $$$ to everyone.

One of our favorite hotels in the world is the J.W. Marriott in Hong

Kong.
First class service, beautiful (though small) rooms, and one of the most
highly-regarded restaurants in Hong Kong. Yes, I prefer to stay there.

No,
I wouldn't prefer to stay in a hostel in Hong Kong (or, for that matter,
anywhere else).


How does it compare to the Island Shangri-La?


Is that the same Shangri-La that's right next door? I haven't stayed there,
but I've eaten in its restaurant a couple of times. It's nice atmosphere,
comparable to the JW, as pricey but, IMHO, not quite as good. I know a lot
of people who swear by the Shangri-La, though.

There's a third hotel in the same vicinity -- the Intercontinental, perhaps?
My understanding is that they're all generally comparable. I stay at the JW
because I a Marriott frequent stay point whore. In fact, most of my
stays at that hotel, including one coming up at the end of this year, are
free thanks to Marriott's Reward Point program.


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Old July 13th, 2004, 05:48 PM
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"Tchiowa" wrote in message
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What are readers thoughts on travelling to Asia and spending big $$$
to stay in an expensive hotel? Would people prefer to stay in a
hostel given that hotels should only b eused to sleep in?


Rather judgmental of you, don't you think?

When we travel, anywhere, we prefer to stay in nice hotels. We like a

quiet
room, a comfortable bed, clean bathroom with a generous tub, hot shower,
etc. We like our privacy. We like having a base of operations which,

among
other things, has the support of a competent concierge, a business

center,
reliable phone service, etc.

What may seem like big $$$ to you, isn't big $$$ to everyone.

One of our favorite hotels in the world is the J.W. Marriott in Hong

Kong.
First class service, beautiful (though small) rooms, and one of the most
highly-regarded restaurants in Hong Kong. Yes, I prefer to stay there.

No,
I wouldn't prefer to stay in a hostel in Hong Kong (or, for that matter,
anywhere else).


Couldn't agree more. My favorite is JWM in Bangkok.


I've stayed at the Marriott which is down the river a bit, but never at the
JW. The river resort was pretty nice, with spacious, beautifully furnished
rooms. The JW in Bangkok must be spectacular.

I travel a lot on
business, so my boss gets to foot the bill. That keeps me Platinum for
Marriott. I get upgraded to an Executive Suite whenever I'm in Bangkok
and it makes all the difference in the world (as compared to a cheaper
place).


Nice! I once had to spend a month in Hong Kong for business -- my hotel
bill was over $10K but, of course, paid by the client. That year I made
platinum -- usually I'm gold, though last year my travel dropped
dramatically and I'm only silver for this year.


But, as you pointed out (and I have pointed out before), it's a matter
of taste. Some people don't care. I have a hard time understanding
that, but to each his own.


What I always find interesting is that people like us, who prefer nicer
hotels, have no problem respecting the choices of the super-budget
travelers. However, it's usually the super-budget travelers, like the OP,
who insist on criticizing those of use who don't enjoy shared baths and
dormitory-style rooms when we travel.


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Old July 13th, 2004, 07:02 PM
Markku Grönroos
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Tchiowa kirjoitti:


Couldn't agree more. My favorite is JWM in Bangkok. I travel a lot on
business, so my boss gets to foot the bill. That keeps me Platinum for
Marriott. I get upgraded to an Executive Suite whenever I'm in Bangkok
and it makes all the difference in the world (as compared to a cheaper
place).

But, as you pointed out (and I have pointed out before), it's a matter
of taste. Some people don't care. I have a hard time understanding
that, but to each his own.


Me too. I don't visit Bangkok because there is not decent accommodation
available.
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Old July 13th, 2004, 07:02 PM
Markku Grönroos
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Tchiowa kirjoitti:


Couldn't agree more. My favorite is JWM in Bangkok. I travel a lot on
business, so my boss gets to foot the bill. That keeps me Platinum for
Marriott. I get upgraded to an Executive Suite whenever I'm in Bangkok
and it makes all the difference in the world (as compared to a cheaper
place).

But, as you pointed out (and I have pointed out before), it's a matter
of taste. Some people don't care. I have a hard time understanding
that, but to each his own.


Me too. I don't visit Bangkok because there is not decent accommodation
available.
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Old July 13th, 2004, 08:30 PM
Miguel Cruz
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"PTRAVEL" wrote:
What I always find interesting is that people like us, who prefer nicer
hotels, have no problem respecting the choices of the super-budget
travelers. However, it's usually the super-budget travelers, like the OP,
who insist on criticizing those of use who don't enjoy shared baths and
dormitory-style rooms when we travel.


I gotta say, from where I'm sitting it's been mostly the other way in
this newsgroup lately (cited antecedent post excepted).

miguel
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Old July 13th, 2004, 09:23 PM
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"Miguel Cruz" wrote in message
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"PTRAVEL" wrote:
What I always find interesting is that people like us, who prefer nicer
hotels, have no problem respecting the choices of the super-budget
travelers. However, it's usually the super-budget travelers, like the

OP,
who insist on criticizing those of use who don't enjoy shared baths and
dormitory-style rooms when we travel.


I gotta say, from where I'm sitting it's been mostly the other way in
this newsgroup lately (cited antecedent post excepted).

miguel


I've only recently started revisiting rec.travel.asia, as I'm in the midst
of planning a trip to Japan, China and Cambodia. At least on the other
travel groups, there seems to be a certain cache to roughing it, i.e. it's
not really travel if you stay in anything above a 3-star. I can't say what
it's been here, but the language of the original post in this thread
certainly suggests a prejudice against those for whom hosteling is anathema.


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Old July 14th, 2004, 12:16 AM
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"PTRAVEL" wrote in message ...


Is that the same Shangri-La that's right next door? I haven't stayed there,
but I've eaten in its restaurant a couple of times. It's nice atmosphere,


which of their restaurants?

comparable to the JW, as pricey but, IMHO, not quite as good. I know a lot
of people who swear by the Shangri-La, though.

There's a third hotel in the same vicinity -- the Intercontinental, perhaps?


The Conrad?

My understanding is that they're all generally comparable. I stay at the JW
because I a Marriott frequent stay point whore. In fact, most of my
stays at that hotel, including one coming up at the end of this year, are
free thanks to Marriott's Reward Point program.


oh, I thought this thread was about money being no object where would
you stay... or is the question which portion of your budget would you
allocate to lodging?

Does everyone in this thread who is pro-5-star have someone else
footing the bill?
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Old July 14th, 2004, 02:02 PM
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Couldn't agree more. My favorite is JWM in Bangkok.


I've stayed at the Marriott which is down the river a bit, but never at the
JW. The river resort was pretty nice, with spacious, beautifully furnished
rooms. The JW in Bangkok must be spectacular.


To steal a line from a movie "it doesn't suck". :-)

I travel a lot on
business, so my boss gets to foot the bill. That keeps me Platinum for
Marriott. I get upgraded to an Executive Suite whenever I'm in Bangkok
and it makes all the difference in the world (as compared to a cheaper
place).


Nice! I once had to spend a month in Hong Kong for business -- my hotel
bill was over $10K but, of course, paid by the client. That year I made
platinum -- usually I'm gold, though last year my travel dropped
dramatically and I'm only silver for this year.


But, as you pointed out (and I have pointed out before), it's a matter
of taste. Some people don't care. I have a hard time understanding
that, but to each his own.


What I always find interesting is that people like us, who prefer nicer
hotels, have no problem respecting the choices of the super-budget
travelers. However, it's usually the super-budget travelers, like the OP,
who insist on criticizing those of use who don't enjoy shared baths and
dormitory-style rooms when we travel.


As I've said before, most people of all stripes and backgrounds are
nice. But you are right that among some backpackers there is an
attitude that being poor somehow makes you superior(????). It bothers
me whenever one of them posts that unless you live on $5 a day you
can't experience the local culture. That, of course, implies that
everyone is poor and that any local who has any level of financial
success automatically loses his culture.

All of that is, for the most part, rationalization.

What people experience living like that is not the culture of the
country, but rather the culture of the poorest of the poor of that
country. It's kind of like saying that unless you sleep in the doorway
of a department store and urinate all over the BART entrances and eat
in a soup kitchen you can't experience the true culture of San
Francisco.
  #29  
Old July 14th, 2004, 03:12 PM
Miguel Cruz
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Tchiowa wrote:
It's kind of like saying that unless you sleep in the doorway of a
department store and urinate all over the BART entrances and eat in a soup
kitchen you can't experience the true culture of San Francisco.


Wait - what's wrong with that?

miguel
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