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Old February 5th, 2005, 06:03 PM
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Pan wrote:


I'm a New Yorker doing my best to recommend the things I like about my
own city. How snobbish is that?


I'm a tourist when I'm in NYC, and no snob, either, but I'd have to
agree with Michael here. I was in Times Square three times during my
last 5 day visit to New York - once to meet some people at Carnegie
Deli, once to see a Broadway show, and once to pick up an obligatory
"Rent" t-shirt for a niece at one of the theater-souvenir emporiums.
Each time I tried to get in and out of there as quickly as possible. (I
have the same general inclinations in Las Vegas, and at Disneyland on a
mid-summer weekend.) Sure, it's worth seeing, but staying in the area
would just make a visit seem impossibly hectic. I would seek out a
quieter area of Manhattan for lodging and dining. Terri

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Old February 6th, 2005, 06:18 AM
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On Sat, 05 Feb 2005 16:13:51 GMT, Brian Wickham
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On Sat, 05 Feb 2005 04:53:32 GMT, Pan wrote:


I would agree that "upper Broadway" would have to start in the 130s or
so - so at least West Harlem if not Washington Heights.


In my lexicon Upper Broadway starts at Columbus Circle. There is a
marked change in the nature of the street from that point on and
dating back many years it has always been known as "Upper Broadway".
But, I suppose, some things get forgotten. Has no one heard of "Lower
Broadway" in the Financial District?


Sure.

I take your point, but things do change. I'm sure that part of
Broadway was called "Upper Broadway" around the turn of the 20th
century, when most of that area was still trees and farms. Now that
the "Upper West Side" is non-upper enough for lots of non-native New
Yorkers to think that appelation means Washington Heights or Inwood,
Broadway in the 60s wouldn't be "upper" to too many people anymore. Or
maybe my reaction is based in part on having grown up in the West 90s.

When you need to point out the commerce on Broadway but not
necessarily on Amsterdam Ave or Riverside Drive, et al, it doesn't
help to say "Upper West Side". It is better to say "Upper Broadway".
But if I said "Broadway" everyone would assume I meant the theater
district unless I qualified it further.


You're right about that, but in order to be clear, I'd use a longer
expression like "Broadway from the 60s-90s" or whatever.

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Old February 6th, 2005, 01:26 PM
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I'm a tourist when I'm in NYC, and no snob . . . staying in [Times
Square]would just make a visit seem impossibly hectic. I would
seek out a quieter area of Manhattan for lodging and dining.


Each but one of my several visits to New York, I've stayed near
Broadway. My first visit, decades ago, it was across the street from
the Young Women's Christian Association (West 51st Street at Eighth?
There's a subway entry).

Recent visits have been in Chelsea at the Seton (27th Street?) and
the Portland Square on 46th. The other was about a month in a room at
146 East Twelfth Street where prostitution, drug dealing, and a
shooting happened while I was there.

I find Times Square extremely convenient for the things I want to do
because of the ease of getting where I want to go. I prefer buses to
the subway as y'can't see nuttin' in a hole in the ground but, for
getting somewhere quickly, the subway can't be beat.

Further, there are two nearby libraries where I can get on line in
addition the the Big Apple Tourist Office. There's the half-price
tickets place and Birdland's a short walk.

It's an easy walk to the "real" New York such as business day Madison
Avenue, for example, and strolling Park and Fifth avenues is always
pleasant.

I have absolutely LOVED each of my visits there and am looking
forward to the next, whenever that might be, wherever I might choose
to stay (probably the Portland Square again).
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Old February 7th, 2005, 10:49 PM
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Icono Clast wrote:
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I'm a tourist when I'm in NYC, and no snob . . . staying in [Times
Square]would just make a visit seem impossibly hectic. I would
seek out a quieter area of Manhattan for lodging and dining.

[snip]
I find Times Square extremely convenient for the things I want to do
because of the ease of getting where I want to go. I prefer buses to
the subway as y'can't see nuttin' in a hole in the ground but, for
getting somewhere quickly, the subway can't be beat.


I've stayed uptown, downtown, midtown, and Queens. It is
hard to beat midtown for overall convience. But then again we're
walkers and so it puts us equidistant in many senses.

Further, there are two nearby libraries where I can get on line in
addition the the Big Apple Tourist Office. There's the half-price
tickets place and Birdland's a short walk.

It's an easy walk to the "real" New York such as business day Madison
Avenue, for example, and strolling Park and Fifth avenues is always
pleasant.


Actually, I'd think even Micheal would agree (and is his point
to some extent I'd suspect) that there is no singular "New York"
nor "New York Experience". If one goes to midtown I can see
how one might loiter in some larger sense. Whereas staying in
The Village, one might tend to still make it up to midtown
for a visit or two.

I have absolutely LOVED each of my visits there and am looking
forward to the next, whenever that might be, wherever I might choose
to stay (probably the Portland Square again).


Staying at the Lexington Radisson in July ($90/night).
First time staying that far east in midtown. Probably
means I'll see more of the east side which probably won't
be a bad thing.

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Old February 8th, 2005, 04:01 AM
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On 7 Feb 2005 13:49:03 -0800, "
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Actually, I'd think even Micheal would agree (and is his point
to some extent I'd suspect) that there is no singular "New York"
nor "New York Experience".


I definitely agree.

[snip]
Staying at the Lexington Radisson in July ($90/night).
First time staying that far east in midtown. Probably
means I'll see more of the east side which probably won't
be a bad thing.


Definitely not a bad thing. I like the east 50s, which is where that
hotel is, isn't it?

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Old February 8th, 2005, 01:53 PM
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Pan wrote:
On 7 Feb 2005 13:49:03 -0800, "
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[snip]
Staying at the Lexington Radisson in July ($90/night).
First time staying that far east in midtown. Probably
means I'll see more of the east side which probably won't
be a bad thing.


Definitely not a bad thing. I like the east 50s, which is where that
hotel is, isn't it?


If I'm reading my map correctly it's about Lex and 47th. Someone
said "near the Waldorf", but "near" in NYC is a real strong function of
the speaker.

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Old February 10th, 2005, 07:31 AM
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On 8 Feb 2005 04:53:46 -0800, "
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Pan wrote:
On 7 Feb 2005 13:49:03 -0800, "
wrote:

[snip]
Staying at the Lexington Radisson in July ($90/night).
First time staying that far east in midtown. Probably
means I'll see more of the east side which probably won't
be a bad thing.


Definitely not a bad thing. I like the east 50s, which is where that
hotel is, isn't it?


If I'm reading my map correctly it's about Lex and 47th. Someone
said "near the Waldorf", but "near" in NYC is a real strong function of
the speaker.


47th is pretty close to Grand Central. Very busy neighborhood during
the day, but not bad. You can have good walks both uptown and downtown
on Lexington and other avenues on the East Side.

Michael

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