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"Alohacyberian" wrote in message ... "Dan24" wrote in message ups.com... Hello everyone! I'm not sure if there's 14 days of travel for just those two or if it would be diversified enough (we don't want to lie around on the beach as beautiful as it may be, for 14 days). We'd love to visit NYC again but weather.com shows it's going to be freezing cold... So I guess my questions are - Should we go anywhere else? And if so, where? Should we stay in the southern east coast or also go to the west? Any other tips / suggestions are welcome The western coast is much warmer in the wintertime than is the eastern coast. Freezing weather is unusual in Seattle and doesn't eve happen every year, is almost unheard of in San Francisco and never occurs in Los Angeles and San Diego though it can occur in Florida. You didn't say where you live now, so it's difficult to give you a gauge as to how much warmer southern California is than the southern east coast. You would probably enjoy Santa Barbara, Santa Monica, Laguna Beach, Dana Point, San Juan Capistrano and San Diego. Unless you want to consider Hawaii where most people from temperate climates can't tell the difference between summer and winter. If so, you are invited to visit my Hawaiian Islands webpage at: ~ http://hawaii.home.att.net/ - where you'll find no advertising, no pop-ups, no cookies and nothing for sale. Bon voyage! KM The issue, Keith, that immediately arises to mind - given your continued failure to address my question: "Do you agree that a maker of a statement is accountable for that statement? A simple 'yes' or 'no' from you will suffice." - is whether all this Hawaii stuff you push here is something behind which you stand. That is, do you deem yoursefl accountable for what you say as per Hawaii? Or are you just throwing out a lot of tourist related smoke and mirror stuff just to fun the folks? But - but - I will note...you obviously have adopted a stance in this post of yours different from a) the Keith Martin of non sequiturs, red herrings, and ad hominems, b) the Alvin Toda of crawling under that rock for a while, and c) that six year old kid's response of yours "Yes or no. KM." This new approach, I guess, is an improvement of some kind or another....it certainly is a change of some sort. But it is one which still leaves my question to you unanswered. |
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On Oct 7, 9:23 am, Brian K wrote:
On 10/6/2007 2:55 PM Dan24 consulted a Magic 8 Ball and declared: Hello everyone! My gf and I are planning our second trip to the states and we wanted to collect some suggestions. In our previous trip (which we really enjoyed!) we visited New York city, Vegas, Los Angeles, San Francisco (took the amazing route 1 drive from LA), Orlando (went to the major theme parks) and finally Miami (South Beach, which we enjoyed least). We loved New York city and had a great time in Orlando's theme parks, especially Disney's. We also enjoyed shopping in malls and outlets and dining in famous American chains like the Cheesecake factory, Outback steakhouse, California Pizza Kitchen, etc. Our trip was 30 days long during September. This time we have only 14 days during February. Now I know this isn't the best time of the year, but I noticed there are still several sunny getaways such as Florida and California. But this time we'd like to find some new attractions and places we haven't been. I've been thinking about the Key West and the Caribbean which we haven't got a chance to visit the last time but I'm not sure if there's 14 days of travel for just those two or if it would be diversified enough (we don't want to lie around on the beach as beautiful as it may be, for 14 days). We'd love to visit NYC again but weather.com shows it's going to be freezing cold... So I guess my questions are - Should we go anywhere else? And if so, where? Should we stay in the southern east coast or also go to the west? Any other tips / suggestions are welcome Thanks in advance, Danny Danny, Ft. Lauderdale and Key West Florida are some of my favorite vacation spots. But there is something you should know. Anyplace warm in February is going to have very high hotel rates. Reservations three months in advance are necessary at most places, if you want a decent room. Unless you are fishing, snorkeling or scuba diving Key West is mainly about R&R. One of my favorite things to do is rent a bike for the time of my stay and use it to explore Key West's back streets and alleys. If I need a refresher, theres either Smathers, Higgs beaches, my B&B pool. If I am near Atlantic Shores, I use their pool. AS as many people call it has the largest clothing optional pool on the island. All are welcome to use the sun deck, pool and bar. Only hotel guests may use the towels and lounges. The sun deck goes out over the ocean. Unless it was destroyed in a storm, they have a stairway where you can go down and swim with the fishes in the ocean. It's not as hot in February as say July. Actually you can get a cold snap where it can go down to 40F at night. There are all sorts of dive boats, you need to shop for the best deal. This is true for fishing boats as well. There really isn't anything close to shore where you can dive or fish. Boats are a necessity. There are some marinas where you can rent a boat. Anything of substance will probably cost more than your entire vacation budget. There are open "dingy" boats with 5 hp motors. But unless you are with someone familiar with the waters it's not a good idea. Aside from safety issues, the area is under environmental regulation. You can only drop anchor in certain locations. Areas over reefs have stationary floats that you moor up to. I was in Key Largo when someone inexperienced sailed their sailboat and went aground on a reef. The fine is $1,000. an hour and he had to wait 5 hours for the tide to come in to get a tow. If you take your time, the drive down to Key West can be fun. Each key is a little different and has different attractions. One thing that's true, if you like seafood that's fresh, you have come to the right place. I've had some of the best seafood in the keys. You can get it gourmet, but at it's best is simple preparation of the catch of the day, grilled, breaded pan fried , or blackened. Another possibility is New Mexico, see the Pueblo Indians outside of Taos, or take in the outdoorsy artsy culture in Albuquerque. -- ________ To email me, Edit "blog" from my email address. Brian M. Kochera "Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once!" View My Web Page:http://home.earthlink.net/~brian1951- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Guys, Thanks for all this wonderful load of information. I just wanted to clarify some additional points: We never tried diving but we're not really into it so as far as that goes, we'll probably skip... Hiking / camping is not our style of vacation, we are very spolied and like to drive around in a car and sleep in hotels Thanks again, Danny |
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On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 11:05:32 GMT, "Alohacyberian"
wrote: "Dan24" wrote in message oups.com... Hello everyone! I'm not sure if there's 14 days of travel for just those two or if it would be diversified enough (we don't want to lie around on the beach as beautiful as it may be, for 14 days). We'd love to visit NYC again but weather.com shows it's going to be freezing cold... So I guess my questions are - Should we go anywhere else? And if so, where? Should we stay in the southern east coast or also go to the west? Any other tips / suggestions are welcome The western coast is much warmer in the wintertime than is the eastern coast. Freezing weather is unusual in Seattle and doesn't eve happen every year, is almost unheard of in San Francisco and never occurs in Los Angeles and San Diego Except for, say, mid-January 2007, when it dropped below freezing in much of San Diego. though it can occur in Florida. You didn't say where you live now, so it's difficult to give you a gauge as to how much warmer southern California is than the southern east coast. You would probably enjoy Santa Barbara, Santa Monica, Laguna Beach, Dana Point, San Juan Capistrano and San Diego. Unless you want to consider Hawaii where most people from temperate climates can't tell the difference between summer and winter. If so, you are invited to visit my Hawaiian Islands webpage at: -- ************* DAVE HATUNEN ) ************* * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow * * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps * |
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In article . com,
Dan24 wrote: Hello everyone! My gf and I are planning our second trip to the states and we wanted to collect some suggestions. In our previous trip (which we really enjoyed!) we visited New York city, Vegas, Los Angeles, San Francisco (took the amazing route 1 drive from LA), Orlando (went to the major theme parks) and finally Miami (South Beach, which we enjoyed least). We loved New York city and had a great time in Orlando's theme parks, especially Disney's. We also enjoyed shopping in malls and outlets and dining in famous American chains like the Cheesecake factory, Outback steakhouse, California Pizza Kitchen, etc. Our trip was 30 days long during September. This time we have only 14 days during February. Now I know this isn't the best time of the year, but I noticed there are still several sunny getaways such as Florida and California. But this time we'd like to find some new attractions and places we haven't been. I've been thinking about the Key West and the Caribbean which we haven't got a chance to visit the last time but I'm not sure if there's 14 days of travel for just those two or if it would be diversified enough (we don't want to lie around on the beach as beautiful as it may be, for 14 days). We'd love to visit NYC again but weather.com shows it's going to be freezing cold... So I guess my questions are - Should we go anywhere else? And if so, where? Should we stay in the southern east coast or also go to the west? Any other tips / suggestions are welcome Its really up to you. Do whatever you think you would enjoy most. If you prefer to vacation in warm weather, Key West for a week and then maybe Puerto Rico or perhaps one of the Caribbean Islands would work out well for you. If you want to be a bit more adventurous, consider going skiing in Utah, or perhaps the Vermont area or maybe Montana. |
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On 10/7/2007 12:00 PM Dan24 consulted a Magic 8 Ball and declared:
On Oct 7, 9:23 am, Brian K wrote: On 10/6/2007 2:55 PM Dan24 consulted a Magic 8 Ball and declared: Hello everyone! My gf and I are planning our second trip to the states and we wanted to collect some suggestions. In our previous trip (which we really enjoyed!) we visited New York city, Vegas, Los Angeles, San Francisco (took the amazing route 1 drive from LA), Orlando (went to the major theme parks) and finally Miami (South Beach, which we enjoyed least). We loved New York city and had a great time in Orlando's theme parks, especially Disney's. We also enjoyed shopping in malls and outlets and dining in famous American chains like the Cheesecake factory, Outback steakhouse, California Pizza Kitchen, etc. Our trip was 30 days long during September. This time we have only 14 days during February. Now I know this isn't the best time of the year, but I noticed there are still several sunny getaways such as Florida and California. But this time we'd like to find some new attractions and places we haven't been. I've been thinking about the Key West and the Caribbean which we haven't got a chance to visit the last time but I'm not sure if there's 14 days of travel for just those two or if it would be diversified enough (we don't want to lie around on the beach as beautiful as it may be, for 14 days). We'd love to visit NYC again but weather.com shows it's going to be freezing cold... So I guess my questions are - Should we go anywhere else? And if so, where? Should we stay in the southern east coast or also go to the west? Any other tips / suggestions are welcome Thanks in advance, Danny Danny, Ft. Lauderdale and Key West Florida are some of my favorite vacation spots. But there is something you should know. Anyplace warm in February is going to have very high hotel rates. Reservations three months in advance are necessary at most places, if you want a decent room. Unless you are fishing, snorkeling or scuba diving Key West is mainly about R&R. One of my favorite things to do is rent a bike for the time of my stay and use it to explore Key West's back streets and alleys. If I need a refresher, theres either Smathers, Higgs beaches, my B&B pool. If I am near Atlantic Shores, I use their pool. AS as many people call it has the largest clothing optional pool on the island. All are welcome to use the sun deck, pool and bar. Only hotel guests may use the towels and lounges. The sun deck goes out over the ocean. Unless it was destroyed in a storm, they have a stairway where you can go down and swim with the fishes in the ocean. It's not as hot in February as say July. Actually you can get a cold snap where it can go down to 40F at night. There are all sorts of dive boats, you need to shop for the best deal. This is true for fishing boats as well. There really isn't anything close to shore where you can dive or fish. Boats are a necessity. There are some marinas where you can rent a boat. Anything of substance will probably cost more than your entire vacation budget. There are open "dingy" boats with 5 hp motors. But unless you are with someone familiar with the waters it's not a good idea. Aside from safety issues, the area is under environmental regulation. You can only drop anchor in certain locations. Areas over reefs have stationary floats that you moor up to. I was in Key Largo when someone inexperienced sailed their sailboat and went aground on a reef. The fine is $1,000. an hour and he had to wait 5 hours for the tide to come in to get a tow. If you take your time, the drive down to Key West can be fun. Each key is a little different and has different attractions. One thing that's true, if you like seafood that's fresh, you have come to the right place. I've had some of the best seafood in the keys. You can get it gourmet, but at it's best is simple preparation of the catch of the day, grilled, breaded pan fried , or blackened. Another possibility is New Mexico, see the Pueblo Indians outside of Taos, or take in the outdoorsy artsy culture in Albuquerque. -- ________ To email me, Edit "blog" from my email address. Brian M. Kochera "Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once!" View My Web Page:http://home.earthlink.net/~brian1951- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Guys, Thanks for all this wonderful load of information. I just wanted to clarify some additional points: We never tried diving but we're not really into it so as far as that goes, we'll probably skip... Hiking / camping is not our style of vacation, we are very spolied and like to drive around in a car and sleep in hotels Thanks again, Danny Then maybe you might want to arrive at Ft. Lauderdale Hollywood Airport, and spend some time in Ft. Lauderdale. It's not as trendy or expensive as Miami but has a lot to offer besides beaches. There are museums, shopping and a healthy slice of nightlife. From there you could go west and check out the Everglades for a day or two. Then wind up in Tampa with Ybor City the adjacent entertainment area. Alternatively you might consider heading south when you reach the west coast and check out Ft. Myers Beach, and/or Naples. Google up Tampa, Ybor City, Ft. Myers Beach and Naples to get more details about lodging and things to do. Ft. Lauderdale is easy to remember at http://sunny.org -- ________ To email me, Edit "blog" from my email address. Brian M. Kochera "Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once!" View My Web Page: http://home.earthlink.net/~brian1951 |
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"Hatunen" wrote in message
... On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 11:05:32 GMT, "Alohacyberian" wrote: The western coast is much warmer in the wintertime than is the eastern coast. Freezing weather is unusual in Seattle and doesn't eve happen every year, is almost unheard of in San Francisco and never occurs in Los Angeles and San Diego Except for, say, mid-January 2007, when it dropped below freezing in much of San Diego. But, that's extremely rare and I don't recall the previous time it happened, but would hazard that it was a long time ago. There's a lot of difference between dropping below freezing for a few hours between 3:30 to 6:00 in the morning and hovering well below freezing for days on end as it does in New York. I don't think San Diego has ever stayed below freezing during the day. But, my point is still the same, the coastal temperatures in Washington, Oregon and California, particularly southern California are considerably warmer than their counterparts on the east coast. It doesn't snow every year in Seattle, but, it certainly snows every year in Boston, Hartford, New York and Pennsylvania! KM -- (-:alohacyberian:-) At my website view over 3,600 live cameras or visit NASA, the Vatican, the Smithsonian, the Louvre, CIA, FBI, and NBA, the White House, Academy Awards, 150 language translators! Visit Hawaii, Israel and more at: http://keith.martin.home.att.net/ |
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On Oct 8, 7:26 am, Brian K wrote:
On 10/7/2007 12:00 PM Dan24 consulted a Magic 8 Ball and declared: On Oct 7, 9:23 am, Brian K wrote: On 10/6/2007 2:55 PM Dan24 consulted a Magic 8 Ball and declared: Hello everyone! My gf and I are planning our second trip to the states and we wanted to collect some suggestions. In our previous trip (which we really enjoyed!) we visited New York city, Vegas, Los Angeles, San Francisco (took the amazing route 1 drive from LA), Orlando (went to the major theme parks) and finally Miami (South Beach, which we enjoyed least). We loved New York city and had a great time in Orlando's theme parks, especially Disney's. We also enjoyed shopping in malls and outlets and dining in famous American chains like the Cheesecake factory, Outback steakhouse, California Pizza Kitchen, etc. Our trip was 30 days long during September. This time we have only 14 days during February. Now I know this isn't the best time of the year, but I noticed there are still several sunny getaways such as Florida and California. But this time we'd like to find some new attractions and places we haven't been. I've been thinking about the Key West and the Caribbean which we haven't got a chance to visit the last time but I'm not sure if there's 14 days of travel for just those two or if it would be diversified enough (we don't want to lie around on the beach as beautiful as it may be, for 14 days). We'd love to visit NYC again but weather.com shows it's going to be freezing cold... So I guess my questions are - Should we go anywhere else? And if so, where? Should we stay in the southern east coast or also go to the west? Any other tips / suggestions are welcome Thanks in advance, Danny Danny, Ft. Lauderdale and Key West Florida are some of my favorite vacation spots. But there is something you should know. Anyplace warm in February is going to have very high hotel rates. Reservations three months in advance are necessary at most places, if you want a decent room. Unless you are fishing, snorkeling or scuba diving Key West is mainly about R&R. One of my favorite things to do is rent a bike for the time of my stay and use it to explore Key West's back streets and alleys. If I need a refresher, theres either Smathers, Higgs beaches, my B&B pool. If I am near Atlantic Shores, I use their pool. AS as many people call it has the largest clothing optional pool on the island. All are welcome to use the sun deck, pool and bar. Only hotel guests may use the towels and lounges. The sun deck goes out over the ocean. Unless it was destroyed in a storm, they have a stairway where you can go down and swim with the fishes in the ocean. It's not as hot in February as say July. Actually you can get a cold snap where it can go down to 40F at night. There are all sorts of dive boats, you need to shop for the best deal. This is true for fishing boats as well. There really isn't anything close to shore where you can dive or fish. Boats are a necessity. There are some marinas where you can rent a boat. Anything of substance will probably cost more than your entire vacation budget. There are open "dingy" boats with 5 hp motors. But unless you are with someone familiar with the waters it's not a good idea. Aside from safety issues, the area is under environmental regulation. You can only drop anchor in certain locations. Areas over reefs have stationary floats that you moor up to. I was in Key Largo when someone inexperienced sailed their sailboat and went aground on a reef. The fine is $1,000. an hour and he had to wait 5 hours for the tide to come in to get a tow. If you take your time, the drive down to Key West can be fun. Each key is a little different and has different attractions. One thing that's true, if you like seafood that's fresh, you have come to the right place. I've had some of the best seafood in the keys. You can get it gourmet, but at it's best is simple preparation of the catch of the day, grilled, breaded pan fried , or blackened. Another possibility is New Mexico, see the Pueblo Indians outside of Taos, or take in the outdoorsy artsy culture in Albuquerque. -- ________ To email me, Edit "blog" from my email address. Brian M. Kochera "Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once!" View My Web Page:http://home.earthlink.net/~brian1951-Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Guys, Thanks for all this wonderful load of information. I just wanted to clarify some additional points: We never tried diving but we're not really into it so as far as that goes, we'll probably skip... Hiking / camping is not our style of vacation, we are very spolied and like to drive around in a car and sleep in hotels Thanks again, Danny Then maybe you might want to arrive at Ft. Lauderdale Hollywood Airport, and spend some time in Ft. Lauderdale. It's not as trendy or expensive as Miami but has a lot to offer besides beaches. There are museums, shopping and a healthy slice of nightlife. From there you could go west and check out the Everglades for a day or two. Then wind up in Tampa with Ybor City the adjacent entertainment area. Alternatively you might consider heading south when you reach the west coast and check out Ft. Myers Beach, and/or Naples. Google up Tampa, Ybor City, Ft. Myers Beach and Naples to get more details about lodging and things to do. Ft. Lauderdale is easy to remember athttp://sunny.org -- ________ To email me, Edit "blog" from my email address. Brian M. Kochera "Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once!" View My Web Page:http://home.earthlink.net/~brian1951- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Guys, How many days out of the 14 should I spend in the Caribbean? and if so, where should I spend them there? Thanks, Danny |
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On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 11:55:16 -0700, Dan24 wrote:
... We'd love to visit NYC again but weather.com shows it's going to be freezing cold... [in February] New York is not necessarily freezing cold in February, what with global warming and all. I suppose it depends on what you're used to. So I guess my questions are - Should we go anywhere else? And if so, where? Should we stay in the southern east coast or also go to the west? Any other tips / suggestions are welcome Thanks in advance, Danny -- Barbara Vaughan My email address is my first initial followed by my last name at libero dot it. |
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"Dan24" wrote:
How many days out of the 14 should I spend in the Caribbean? and if so, where should I spend them there? I'd spend 7-8 days. For warm water, you need to be South of Cuba... I'd say you could have fun any of the more popular islands, like Grand Cayman, Domincan Republic, Virgin Islands (U.S. or British), St. Maartin, St. Kitts, Barbados, Bonaire, Aruba, Jamaica, or Mexico -- Cancum/Cozumel. I once spent 10 days sunning and swimming on Grand Cayman, but that got old after awhile. My preference now would be to take a Southern Caribbean cruise departing from San Juan, PR. However, if I were to do just one set of islands, it'd be the U.S. Virgins, more specifically, St. Thomas for the variety of activities and resorts, or St. John, which is 2/3 National Park, for great snorkeling off white sand beaches... and throw in a day trip to Virgin Gorda, one of the British Virgins, by ferry. =R= |
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So I guess my questions are - Should we go anywhere else? And if so, where? Should we stay in the southern east coast or also go to the west? Any other tips / suggestions are welcome Thanks in advance, Danny How about the Southwest of the US? Use Las Vegas as your starting point, and drive to places like the Grand Canyon, Southern Utah, Northern Arizona. Lots of national parks. Another suggestion would be Texas. Dallas, San Antonio, Austin, Houston. Just a quick comment about the Southern US...Except for Southern Florida and California, the Southern states like Texas, Georgia, the Carolinas, etc. have widely unpredictable winter weather. Moreso in the past few years. I live in Atlanta....while we have light winters, usually in the 40s, 50s, or 60s (occasionally in the 80s :-) , we can also have ice storms, the kind that shut everything down for a few days. Texas has lots of them. They may not be a regular occurance, but like a hurricane, if you're there at the wrong time, your trip is ruined. (and many Yankees believe that, since they can drive on snow, they can drive during an ice storm. Ha! ;-) Seriously, the ice pulls down power lines, so it can be a dark, cold, boring experience. |
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