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Vancouver transit riders tasered for not paying fares
ROD MICKLEBURGH

From Wednesday's Globe and Mail

April 16, 2008 at 5:31 AM EDT

VANCOUVER - The country's only armed transit police have been tasering
passengers who try to avoid paying fares.

According to documents provided in response to a Freedom of Information
request, police patrolling public transit in the Metro Vancouver area
have used tasers 10 times in the past 18 months, including five
occasions when victims had been accosted for riding free.

In one incident, a non-paying passenger was tasered after he held onto a
railing on the SkyTrain platform and refused to let go.

"After several warnings to the subject to stop resisting arrest and the
subject failing to comply with the officers' commands, the taser was
deployed and the subject was taken into control," said the report
provided by TransLink, the region's transit authority.

An internal review of the incident concluded that the action taken by
transit police officers complied with the force's policy and was within
guidelines "set out in the National Use of Force Model," the report said.

On another occasion, a passenger was tasered when he fled from police
who found him without a payment receipt during a "fare blitz." This
time, however, the passenger got away because, as recounted in the
report, "the Taser was ineffective due to the subject's clothing and
[he] escaped the custody of the officers."

Politicians and civil-liberties activists alike decried the use of
tasers on individuals who were attempting merely to avoid paying a fine
for not buying a ticket to ride.

"I think it's absolutely uncalled for, absolutely reprehensible, and the
police should not be doing that," federal Liberal public safety critic
Ujjal Dosanjh said in Ottawa yesterday.

On the face of it, the use of tasers by transit police here is far
outside guidelines that say they should be used only if someone is
suicidal, violent or about to injure himself or someone else, Mr.
Dosanjh said.

"Their current use is absolutely inappropriate," he said, adding that
the latest revelations, coming after a storm of recent controversy over
taser use by regular police forces across the country, have brought him
close to calling for a moratorium on the powerful stun guns.

"This is the kind of example that would lead people like me, who have so
far resisted asking for a moratorium, to actually call for that," he said.

Murray Mollard of the B.C. Civil Liberties Association, which supports a
moratorium, said he was shocked by the news of transit passengers being
tasered.

"To apply a taser on someone fleeing the scene while trying to evade a
fine is, quite frankly, an outrageous abuse of this weapon," Mr. Mollard
said.

"Do we really need police officers with guns and tasers using them in
the context of fare evasion? I don't think so. This really is very hard
to believe."

But he stopped short of blaming the police. "They do what police do," he
said. Instead, he pinned the fault on cabinet ministers responsible for
the police who refuse to restrict taser use.

In a move that sparked heated debate in the province, the government
gave the green light for transit cops to carry weapons 2½ years ago.
There are about 125 officers on the transit force.

The region's popular, elevated SkyTrain system operates on a partial
honour system, without turnstiles. However, riders caught without a
ticket are subject to heavy fines, as high as $175. Officers ask
passengers at random for proof of payment.

Yesterday, the head of the RCMP admitted the police force did not do a
good job making information public about taser use, and vowed that
changes will be made.

"Frankly we did not handle this matter very well," Commissioner William
Elliott told the Canadian Club of Ottawa. "We should not have needed two
kicks at the can. We must learn from that and do better."

The taser controversy will be in the spotlight again today - the mother
of Robert Dziekanski, the Polish immigrant who died after being tasered
by the RCMP last year at Vancouver International Airport, is expected to
testify before a parliamentary committee in Ottawa.




WTF is this tazering business ??

America is the land of gun owners , SHOOT THE FARE DODGING SCUM dont
tazer them , what is this ? nanny state going softly again ??

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Bottom line - resisting arrest is always a bad idea

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Vancouver transit riders tasered for not paying fares
ROD MICKLEBURGH


In one incident, a non-paying passenger was tasered after he held onto a
railing on the SkyTrain platform and refused to let go.

"After several warnings to the subject to stop resisting arrest and the
subject failing to comply with the officers' commands, the taser was
deployed and the subject was taken into control," said the report provided
by TransLink, the region's transit authority.



So... not tased for not paying fare, but tased properly for resisting
arrest after repeated warning.

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Bottom line - resisting arrest is always a bad idea
Keith

So is criminally not paying transit fares.
You do the crime, you get the fine tasering!

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Vancouver transit riders tasered for not paying fares
ROD MICKLEBURGH

From Wednesday's Globe and Mail

April 16, 2008 at 5:31 AM EDT

VANCOUVER - The country's only armed transit police have been tasering
passengers who try to avoid paying fares.

According to documents provided in response to a Freedom of Information
request, police patrolling public transit in the Metro Vancouver area
have used tasers 10 times in the past 18 months, including five
occasions when victims had been accosted for riding free.

In one incident, a non-paying passenger was tasered after he held onto a
railing on the SkyTrain platform and refused to let go.

"After several warnings to the subject to stop resisting arrest and the
subject failing to comply with the officers' commands, the taser was
deployed and the subject was taken into control," said the report
provided by TransLink, the region's transit authority.

An internal review of the incident concluded that the action taken by
transit police officers complied with the force's policy and was within
guidelines "set out in the National Use of Force Model," the report
said.

On another occasion, a passenger was tasered when he fled from police
who found him without a payment receipt during a "fare blitz." This
time, however, the passenger got away because, as recounted in the
report, "the Taser was ineffective due to the subject's clothing and
[he] escaped the custody of the officers."

Politicians and civil-liberties activists alike decried the use of
tasers on individuals who were attempting merely to avoid paying a fine
for not buying a ticket to ride.

"I think it's absolutely uncalled for, absolutely reprehensible, and the
police should not be doing that," federal Liberal public safety critic
Ujjal Dosanjh said in Ottawa yesterday.

On the face of it, the use of tasers by transit police here is far
outside guidelines that say they should be used only if someone is
suicidal, violent or about to injure himself or someone else, Mr.
Dosanjh said.

"Their current use is absolutely inappropriate," he said, adding that
the latest revelations, coming after a storm of recent controversy over
taser use by regular police forces across the country, have brought him
close to calling for a moratorium on the powerful stun guns.

"This is the kind of example that would lead people like me, who have so
far resisted asking for a moratorium, to actually call for that," he
said.

Murray Mollard of the B.C. Civil Liberties Association, which supports a
moratorium, said he was shocked by the news of transit passengers being
tasered.

"To apply a taser on someone fleeing the scene while trying to evade a
fine is, quite frankly, an outrageous abuse of this weapon," Mr. Mollard
said.

"Do we really need police officers with guns and tasers using them in
the context of fare evasion? I don't think so. This really is very hard
to believe."

But he stopped short of blaming the police. "They do what police do," he
said. Instead, he pinned the fault on cabinet ministers responsible for
the police who refuse to restrict taser use.

In a move that sparked heated debate in the province, the government
gave the green light for transit cops to carry weapons 2½ years ago.
There are about 125 officers on the transit force.

The region's popular, elevated SkyTrain system operates on a partial
honour system, without turnstiles. However, riders caught without a
ticket are subject to heavy fines, as high as $175. Officers ask
passengers at random for proof of payment.

Yesterday, the head of the RCMP admitted the police force did not do a
good job making information public about taser use, and vowed that
changes will be made.

"Frankly we did not handle this matter very well," Commissioner William
Elliott told the Canadian Club of Ottawa. "We should not have needed two
kicks at the can. We must learn from that and do better."

The taser controversy will be in the spotlight again today - the mother
of Robert Dziekanski, the Polish immigrant who died after being tasered
by the RCMP last year at Vancouver International Airport, is expected to
testify before a parliamentary committee in Ottawa.




WTF is this tazering business ??

America is the land of gun owners , SHOOT THE FARE DODGING SCUM dont
tazer them , what is this ? nanny state going softly again ??


Vancouver is in the province of British Columbia in Canada.

Chasseur
Canada

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Vancouver transit riders tasered for not paying fares
ROD MICKLEBURGH

From Wednesday's Globe and Mail

April 16, 2008 at 5:31 AM EDT

VANCOUVER - The country's only armed transit police have been tasering
passengers who try to avoid paying fares.

According to documents provided in response to a Freedom of Information
request, police patrolling public transit in the Metro Vancouver area
have used tasers 10 times in the past 18 months, including five
occasions when victims had been accosted for riding free.

In one incident, a non-paying passenger was tasered after he held onto a
railing on the SkyTrain platform and refused to let go.

"After several warnings to the subject to stop resisting arrest and the
subject failing to comply with the officers' commands, the taser was
deployed and the subject was taken into control," said the report
provided by TransLink, the region's transit authority.

An internal review of the incident concluded that the action taken by
transit police officers complied with the force's policy and was within
guidelines "set out in the National Use of Force Model," the report
said.
On another occasion, a passenger was tasered when he fled from police
who found him without a payment receipt during a "fare blitz." This
time, however, the passenger got away because, as recounted in the
report, "the Taser was ineffective due to the subject's clothing and
[he] escaped the custody of the officers."

Politicians and civil-liberties activists alike decried the use of
tasers on individuals who were attempting merely to avoid paying a fine
for not buying a ticket to ride.

"I think it's absolutely uncalled for, absolutely reprehensible, and the
police should not be doing that," federal Liberal public safety critic
Ujjal Dosanjh said in Ottawa yesterday.

On the face of it, the use of tasers by transit police here is far
outside guidelines that say they should be used only if someone is
suicidal, violent or about to injure himself or someone else, Mr.
Dosanjh said.

"Their current use is absolutely inappropriate," he said, adding that
the latest revelations, coming after a storm of recent controversy over
taser use by regular police forces across the country, have brought him
close to calling for a moratorium on the powerful stun guns.

"This is the kind of example that would lead people like me, who have so
far resisted asking for a moratorium, to actually call for that," he
said.
Murray Mollard of the B.C. Civil Liberties Association, which supports a
moratorium, said he was shocked by the news of transit passengers being
tasered.

"To apply a taser on someone fleeing the scene while trying to evade a
fine is, quite frankly, an outrageous abuse of this weapon," Mr. Mollard
said.

"Do we really need police officers with guns and tasers using them in
the context of fare evasion? I don't think so. This really is very hard
to believe."

But he stopped short of blaming the police. "They do what police do," he
said. Instead, he pinned the fault on cabinet ministers responsible for
the police who refuse to restrict taser use.

In a move that sparked heated debate in the province, the government
gave the green light for transit cops to carry weapons 2½ years ago.
There are about 125 officers on the transit force.

The region's popular, elevated SkyTrain system operates on a partial
honour system, without turnstiles. However, riders caught without a
ticket are subject to heavy fines, as high as $175. Officers ask
passengers at random for proof of payment.

Yesterday, the head of the RCMP admitted the police force did not do a
good job making information public about taser use, and vowed that
changes will be made.

"Frankly we did not handle this matter very well," Commissioner William
Elliott told the Canadian Club of Ottawa. "We should not have needed two
kicks at the can. We must learn from that and do better."

The taser controversy will be in the spotlight again today - the mother
of Robert Dziekanski, the Polish immigrant who died after being tasered
by the RCMP last year at Vancouver International Airport, is expected to
testify before a parliamentary committee in Ottawa.



WTF is this tazering business ??

America is the land of gun owners , SHOOT THE FARE DODGING SCUM dont
tazer them , what is this ? nanny state going softly again ??


Vancouver is in the province of British Columbia in Canada.

Chasseur
Canada




Canadians , the other yanks

I met Canadians who are born in New York , live in New york , but travel
as Canadians ... they get less **** that way

unfortunately , they are giving Canadians a seriously bad bad name

Sorry to have mixed you guys up

On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 18:10:22 -0400, "Patriot Games"
wrote:

VANCOUVER - The country's only armed transit police have been tasering
passengers who try to avoid paying fares.


Good!

Thieves should be punished.

Gunner

On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 20:01:32 -0700, Gunner
wrote:

On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 18:10:22 -0400, "Patriot Games"
wrote:

VANCOUVER - The country's only armed transit police have been tasering
passengers who try to avoid paying fares.


Good!

Thieves should be punished.

Paid those hospital bills yet?