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tipping demand (in Montreal)
There is a long thread in rec.travel.usa-canada (subject: Tipping
epidemic). That combined with a report that a friend of mine gave me today prompted this message. He was taking a couple of his friends (visitors from abroad) around Montreal for their business meeting and stopped at a restaurant on St. Laurent for lunch. He is new to Montreal and doesn't really know his way around here and can't speak French at all. Heck, he can't even remember the name of the place where they ate though he says he can take me there and show it to me Anyway, when they payed their bill they tipped around 10% and the waitress there demanded 15% claiming that was the minimum norm. She even called her manager who supported her demand. The three guys, after a short argument, eventually gave her 15% (to get over with it since they were pressed for time), *after* telling her that they did not mind giving her even 100% but they did mind the way she was behaving. I am wondering (actually I have a good mind of going there and having a look myself) are waiters and waitresses right in demanding a certain minimum tip? Or were they just taking advantage of foreigners? The thread I mentioned above in rec.travel.usa-canada makes interesting reading too. -HS -- ---------------------- X ---------------------- Remove all underscores from my email address to get the correct one. Apologies for the inconvenience, but this is to reduce spam. |
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"H. S." wrote:
He was taking a couple of his friends (visitors from abroad) around Montreal for their business meeting and stopped at a restaurant on St. Laurent for lunch. He is new to Montreal and doesn't really know his way around here and can't speak French at all. Heck, he can't even remember the name of the place where they ate though he says he can take me there and show it to me Anyway, when they payed their bill they tipped around 10% and the waitress there demanded 15% claiming that was the minimum norm. She even called her manager who supported her demand. The three guys, after a short argument, eventually gave her 15% (to get over with it since they were pressed for time), *after* telling her that they did not mind giving her even 100% but they did mind the way she was behaving. I'd love to see them try to get xtra tip money from me! The person will get what I think is deserved. If service is not adequate, they will get a very small amount, the manager will be told the level of service received was only worth that much. |
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tipping demand (in Montreal)
"H. S." wrote in news:wcLhb.6098$G_.586015
@news20.bellglobal.com: There is a long thread in rec.travel.usa-canada (subject: Tipping epidemic). That combined with a report that a friend of mine gave me today prompted this message. He was taking a couple of his friends (visitors from abroad) around Montreal for their business meeting and stopped at a restaurant on St. Laurent for lunch. He is new to Montreal and doesn't really know his way around here and can't speak French at all. Heck, he can't even remember the name of the place where they ate though he says he can take me there and show it to me Anyway, when they payed their bill they tipped around 10% and the waitress there demanded 15% claiming that was the minimum norm. She even called her manager who supported her demand. The three guys, after a short argument, eventually gave her 15% (to get over with it since they were pressed for time), *after* telling her that they did not mind giving her even 100% but they did mind the way she was behaving. I am wondering (actually I have a good mind of going there and having a look myself) are waiters and waitresses right in demanding a certain minimum tip? Or were they just taking advantage of foreigners? The thread I mentioned above in rec.travel.usa-canada makes interesting reading too. No, there is no minimum amount enforced by law. I usually leave 20%, but in this case I would have left nothing. Please list the name of the establishment if possible. jaybee |
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tipping demand (in Montreal)
"H. S." wrote in message ... There is a long thread in rec.travel.usa-canada (subject: Tipping epidemic). That combined with a report that a friend of mine gave me today prompted this message. He was taking a couple of his friends (visitors from abroad) around Montreal for their business meeting and stopped at a restaurant on St. Laurent for lunch. He is new to Montreal and doesn't really know his way around here and can't speak French at all. Heck, he can't even remember the name of the place where they ate though he says he can take me there and show it to me Anyway, when they payed their bill they tipped around 10% and the waitress there demanded 15% claiming that was the minimum norm. Why not do as I do, and just leave the tip, if any, on the table just as you get up to leave. They have to take it and smile. |
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tipping demand (in Montreal)
No minimum tip in quebec...your pals got hosed. Please do post
the restaurant's name here, if you can. On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 23:55:17 -0400, "H. S." wrote: There is a long thread in rec.travel.usa-canada (subject: Tipping epidemic). That combined with a report that a friend of mine gave me today prompted this message. He was taking a couple of his friends (visitors from abroad) around Montreal for their business meeting and stopped at a restaurant on St. Laurent for lunch. He is new to Montreal and doesn't really know his way around here and can't speak French at all. Heck, he can't even remember the name of the place where they ate though he says he can take me there and show it to me Anyway, when they payed their bill they tipped around 10% and the waitress there demanded 15% claiming that was the minimum norm. She even called her manager who supported her demand. The three guys, after a short argument, eventually gave her 15% (to get over with it since they were pressed for time), *after* telling her that they did not mind giving her even 100% but they did mind the way she was behaving. I am wondering (actually I have a good mind of going there and having a look myself) are waiters and waitresses right in demanding a certain minimum tip? Or were they just taking advantage of foreigners? The thread I mentioned above in rec.travel.usa-canada makes interesting reading too. -HS |
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On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 23:55:17 -0400, H. S. wrote:
Anyway, when they payed their bill they tipped around 10% and the waitress there demanded 15% claiming that was the Standard here is 15%, basically just give the waiter the same amount as the tax on your bill. However, in this case I would have told her to **** off and never would eat in that establishment again. -- Marc Lombart 11/10/2003 10:06:41 http://www.marcmywords.com "There is no limit to what can be accomplished if it doesn't matter who gets the credit." - Emerson |
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tipping demand (in Montreal)
On 11 Oct 2003 05:06:53 GMT, Jacques E. Bouchard wrote:
No, there is no minimum amount enforced by law. I usually leave 20%, but in this case I would have left nothing. Please list the name of the establishment if possible. What he said. -- Marc Lombart 11/10/2003 10:07:58 http://www.marcmywords.com "There is no limit to what can be accomplished if it doesn't matter who gets the credit." - Emerson |
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tipping demand (in Montreal)
Jacques E. Bouchard wrote:
Please list the name of the establishment if possible. I will as soon as my friend shows it to me. I am curious too. -HS -- ---------------------- X ---------------------- Remove all underscores from my email address to get the correct one. Apologies for the inconvenience, but this is to reduce spam. |
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tipping demand (in Montreal)
"H. S." wrote in message ... Jacques E. Bouchard wrote: Please list the name of the establishment if possible. I will as soon as my friend shows it to me. I am curious too. My wife and I have an aversion to cooking. We eat out daily almost. We have quiote a palette, we eat sushi, indian, mexican, italian, french and alot of other great food. I've never come across this, ever. The 15 % deal sounds like tax. I bet your buddy who can't read/speak/understand french got hit with GST/PST. Montreal is a pretty cheap place to dine out in, I might suggest that when out for a nice dinner, that 15 to 20 % tip is apropriate here. But For our American readers who aren't used to getting gouged by tax.. Meal: 100 $ TAX: 15 $ That's 115 $ for a 100 $ meal, and you haven't TIPPED yet. Now , some folks do the tip math before tax, others after. It's a personal choice of course. A 100 $ meal, with tax and tip would typically cost me 135 $ on average. 125 for not so great service, 140 for excelence hope that helps And if a restaurant in MTL is genuinely ****ing over tourists, then please let us know |
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tipping demand (in Montreal)
It happened to mee too, in ville marie, in a chinesee restaurant.
it was not the tax that they claimed, but the tip. tax is not included in the list price, but ALWAYS included in the bill ... so there is no chance of mistaken tax and tip. all the best, alex |
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