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Old July 11th, 2004, 01:57 PM
jcoulter
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jcoulter wrote in
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I like cruising but it is not my only means of travel or vacation. if
you asked me what I would truly love it might well be a few days in
Paris- and cruise ships don't really get there despite what the
itineraries say.


But even the few days in Paris is open to differing tastes, some people
like cheap hotels (ewith real european feel, others like chain hotels
(where they know what they are getting) others like expensive european feel
hotels like the Crillon where everyone who sees them walk out know that
they have money.

Tastes vary that is why we still have options in travel.

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Old July 11th, 2004, 02:53 PM
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On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 03:31:30 GMT, "deedee_tv"
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I have to agree with you on the short stay at the ports...BUT then
again I do not cruise to explore the local area... I found that I
never had the time... I do take a few excursions but generally
do my own thing... My seat of the pants approach works for me...

Sorry you could not find a way of relaxing...I never have a problem
doing that ..When on vacation I never plan 2 minutes in the future
everything is spontaneous... and I always come home well relaxed

Bob Griffiths

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Old July 11th, 2004, 02:53 PM
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On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 03:31:30 GMT, "deedee_tv"
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I have to agree with you on the short stay at the ports...BUT then
again I do not cruise to explore the local area... I found that I
never had the time... I do take a few excursions but generally
do my own thing... My seat of the pants approach works for me...

Sorry you could not find a way of relaxing...I never have a problem
doing that ..When on vacation I never plan 2 minutes in the future
everything is spontaneous... and I always come home well relaxed

Bob Griffiths

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Old July 11th, 2004, 02:59 PM
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A Sun, 11 Jul 2004 03:31:30 GMT, "deedee_tv"
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I had to start thinking about wardrobe options about a month prior and
needed $700 worth of clothes to fulfill the requirements of the evening
dress code. I followed the guidelines but was in the top 5-10% in terms of
actually wearing what was "required".


Does the term "required" appears anywhere in Celebrity's
information? I think they use the term "suggested," like
their sister-line, RCI, and competitor Princess.

I don't expect to pay anything for any clothing to comply
with the dress code (which I plan to do, to a great extent).
Everything I need is already in my closet, AFAIC.

What I do need to spend money on is lighter, casual
clothing. Some of the stuff I have now is going to last
just through this Summer, here, but beyond that -- I think
I'd rather have the new stuff for the cruise in January, and
then use that over next Summer.

The port destinations were far too short to accomplish anything. All ports
(Ocho Rios, Jamaica, Grand Cayman, Cozamel and Key West) left you in the
most touristy areas which gave little ability to get to see the country.


One of the first things impressed on me when I started
researching going on a cruise was how important it was to
choose the right itinerary. I had a choice between an
itinerary with fewer ports-of-call and therefore longer at
each port-of-call, or the one I chose, which is similar to
the itinerary you chose. Different strokes for different
folks.

I ended up with the $3000+ cruise price plus an additional $1600 spend on
board for shore excursions, drinks, spa treatments, bingo and very light
gambling.


I suspect that that is about what we'll spend. Thanks for
the benchmark.

I don't need that much structure to relax. I know people who rave about
cruising but give me a condo on just about any beach and the ability to pick
which restaurant I eat at in the evening and I will save thousands and be
much happier.
Am I alone here?


I cannot believe that you're alone. I know that I'd,
personally, go crazy with that sort of plan.


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Old July 11th, 2004, 02:59 PM
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A Sun, 11 Jul 2004 03:31:30 GMT, "deedee_tv"
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I had to start thinking about wardrobe options about a month prior and
needed $700 worth of clothes to fulfill the requirements of the evening
dress code. I followed the guidelines but was in the top 5-10% in terms of
actually wearing what was "required".


Does the term "required" appears anywhere in Celebrity's
information? I think they use the term "suggested," like
their sister-line, RCI, and competitor Princess.

I don't expect to pay anything for any clothing to comply
with the dress code (which I plan to do, to a great extent).
Everything I need is already in my closet, AFAIC.

What I do need to spend money on is lighter, casual
clothing. Some of the stuff I have now is going to last
just through this Summer, here, but beyond that -- I think
I'd rather have the new stuff for the cruise in January, and
then use that over next Summer.

The port destinations were far too short to accomplish anything. All ports
(Ocho Rios, Jamaica, Grand Cayman, Cozamel and Key West) left you in the
most touristy areas which gave little ability to get to see the country.


One of the first things impressed on me when I started
researching going on a cruise was how important it was to
choose the right itinerary. I had a choice between an
itinerary with fewer ports-of-call and therefore longer at
each port-of-call, or the one I chose, which is similar to
the itinerary you chose. Different strokes for different
folks.

I ended up with the $3000+ cruise price plus an additional $1600 spend on
board for shore excursions, drinks, spa treatments, bingo and very light
gambling.


I suspect that that is about what we'll spend. Thanks for
the benchmark.

I don't need that much structure to relax. I know people who rave about
cruising but give me a condo on just about any beach and the ability to pick
which restaurant I eat at in the evening and I will save thousands and be
much happier.
Am I alone here?


I cannot believe that you're alone. I know that I'd,
personally, go crazy with that sort of plan.


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Old July 11th, 2004, 03:02 PM
Benjamin Smith
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deedee_tv wrote:
I just returned from a 7 day western Caribbean cruise on Celebrity Century.
I guess it is me but I don't get it. Although this was my first cruise, I
have traveled extensively (25+ European trips, 5 trips to Far East,
Hawaii...). I really did not enjoy the cruise. The food was OK but seemed
to emphasize quantity over quality. I saw people ordering 3 shrimp
cocktails each dinner even though it wasn't a menu option. I definitely do
not care for the "all you can eat" mentality.


I don't either. For the most part, the servings I find at many
restaurants are twice as much food as anyone should need. The dining
servings on ships are actually sensibly sized. The buffet is typical
buffet. Food on Century should be at least very good, at least the
dining food.

I had to start thinking about wardrobe options about a month prior and
needed $700 worth of clothes to fulfill the requirements of the evening
dress code. I followed the guidelines but was in the top 5-10% in terms of
actually wearing what was "required".



It supposed to be an elegant ship. Celebrity chose to expand their
product to those that don't necessarily see it as an elegant ship and
don't enforce their dress code. Some of us already have the clothes and
enjoy the dress codes.

The port destinations were far too short to accomplish anything. All ports
(Ocho Rios, Jamaica, Grand Cayman, Cozamel and Key West) left you in the
most touristy areas which gave little ability to get to see the country.


A little research and you can get away from the touristy areas. You can
arrange your own tour excursion. A cursory look at the itinerary reveals
the time at port. For many of these Carribean cruises, ports aren't that
important since many have been there countless times and people go for
one feature (such as snorkeling, diving, shopping, etc.).

I ended up with the $3000+ cruise price plus an additional $1600 spend on
board for shore excursions, drinks, spa treatments, bingo and very light
gambling.


That's where the money is, onboard revenue.

I don't need that much structure to relax. I know people who rave about
cruising but give me a condo on just about any beach and the ability to pick
which restaurant I eat at in the evening and I will save thousands and be
much happier.


I don't care for beaches or condos. I'm not even big on restaurants and
eating. There are lines that have less structure than Celebrity. Part of
the lure of cruising is some of the rituals and interaction with crew,
sea, fellow pax, and/or your spouse. If you tried a cruise and didn't
like it that's fine. I'm glad to hear it and want to hear it from more
people so that the cruise lines will stop expanding.


Am I alone here?



In a cruise newsgroup? In the general population, of course not. In a
specialized group of cruise enthusiasts, you'll find a handful of
lurkers or ex-cruisers in your camp.

Ben S.


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Old July 11th, 2004, 03:03 PM
Benjamin Smith
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Ray Goldenberg wrote:

On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 03:31:30 GMT, "deedee_tv"
wrote:


I just returned from a 7 day western Caribbean cruise on Celebrity Century.



Hi Everyone,

I thought this post sounded strange. vbg A quick Google of the
poster showed more than I wanted to know about deedee the
transvestite.


Totally irrelevant to the points the poster made. I see no need to
investigate the poster's character based on the post.

Ben S.
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Old July 11th, 2004, 03:03 PM
Benjamin Smith
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Ray Goldenberg wrote:

On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 03:31:30 GMT, "deedee_tv"
wrote:


I just returned from a 7 day western Caribbean cruise on Celebrity Century.



Hi Everyone,

I thought this post sounded strange. vbg A quick Google of the
poster showed more than I wanted to know about deedee the
transvestite.


Totally irrelevant to the points the poster made. I see no need to
investigate the poster's character based on the post.

Ben S.
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Old July 11th, 2004, 03:05 PM
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A Sun, 11 Jul 2004 04:28:47 GMT, "Miso"
escribió:
Personally, I think you got carried away on the cruise. Everything
you did like excursions and spa treatments costs a lot of money.
That's how the cruiseline makes their profit...and on beverages too.
Next time, perhaps try being a bit more frugal and you may surprise
yourself and enjoy the cruise more.


This is a good launching-off point for a question:

How many excursions do folks recommend for a 7-day, 5
port-of-call itinerary?

Miso, here, says that the OP seemed to have gotten carried
away with respect to excursions and spa treatments. Being a
first-time cruiser (really second-time, but the first time
was a very regimented Nile River cruise), what do folks
recommend along those lines?


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Old July 11th, 2004, 03:05 PM
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A Sun, 11 Jul 2004 04:28:47 GMT, "Miso"
escribió:
Personally, I think you got carried away on the cruise. Everything
you did like excursions and spa treatments costs a lot of money.
That's how the cruiseline makes their profit...and on beverages too.
Next time, perhaps try being a bit more frugal and you may surprise
yourself and enjoy the cruise more.


This is a good launching-off point for a question:

How many excursions do folks recommend for a 7-day, 5
port-of-call itinerary?

Miso, here, says that the OP seemed to have gotten carried
away with respect to excursions and spa treatments. Being a
first-time cruiser (really second-time, but the first time
was a very regimented Nile River cruise), what do folks
recommend along those lines?


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