United Seeks 3rd Extension On Reorganization Plan

United Airlines has asked a US bankruptcy court to extend until June
30 a March 8 deadline for it to submit its own reorganization plan. It
was the third time that the carrier, the world's second largest airline
had asked the Chicago court to extend the period of exclusivity under
Chapter 11 bankruptcy proceedings.

http://news.airwise.com/stories/2004/02/1076448121.html

Ouch, the third time.


Casey

"Casey" wrote in message nk.net...
United Airlines has asked a US bankruptcy court to extend until June
30 a March 8 deadline for it to submit its own reorganization plan. It
was the third time that the carrier, the world's second largest airline
had asked the Chicago court to extend the period of exclusivity under
Chapter 11 bankruptcy proceedings.

http://news.airwise.com/stories/2004/02/1076448121.html

Ouch, the third time.


Casey


Is a company usually granted an extention for the 3rd time and if the
bankruptcy court delines, what does that mean for United?

United Seeks 3rd Extension On Reorganization Plan

Group: rec.travel.air Date: Thu, Feb 12, 2004, 8:20am (EST-3) From:
(Cassie)
"Casey" wrote in message
nk.net...
United Airlines has asked a US bankruptcy court to extend until June 30
a March 8 deadline for it to submit its own reorganization plan. It was
the third time that the carrier, the world's second largest airline had
asked the Chicago court to extend the period of exclusivity under
Chapter 11 bankruptcy proceedings.
http://news.airwise.com/stories/2004/02/1076448121.html
Ouch, the third time.
Casey

Is a company usually granted an extention for the 3rd time and if the
bankruptcy court delines, what does that mean for United?

FWIW, From a friend who's a United 1st officer out of Miami. United is
closing their Miami base as of May 1st. They are also giving up some S.
America routes from Miami. Miami will become just another stop on their
route like Jacksonville or Orlando.

My friend will have to dead head to SF to start his flights. He thinks
of it as a 5hr 3k mile commute to work.

Eric

"Save The Sync, Ban MOS"

Given the size of United, the BK trustee is likely to give them as many as
five. After that, the trustee may conclude that management doesn't have
what it takes and will step in and appoint his own management for the
airline, and start selling it off most likely until it is of the size that
it's earning capacity can support.

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"Cassie" wrote in message
om...
"Casey" wrote in message
nk.net...
United Airlines has asked a US bankruptcy court to extend until June
30 a March 8 deadline for it to submit its own reorganization plan. It
was the third time that the carrier, the world's second largest airline
had asked the Chicago court to extend the period of exclusivity under
Chapter 11 bankruptcy proceedings.

http://news.airwise.com/stories/2004/02/1076448121.html

Ouch, the third time.


Casey


Is a company usually granted an extention for the 3rd time and if the
bankruptcy court delines, what does that mean for United?

Eric Toline wrote:

United Seeks 3rd Extension On Reorganization Plan

Group: rec.travel.air Date: Thu, Feb 12, 2004, 8:20am (EST-3) From:
(Cassie)
"Casey" wrote in message
nk.net...
United Airlines has asked a US bankruptcy court to extend until June 30
a March 8 deadline for it to submit its own reorganization plan. It was
the third time that the carrier, the world's second largest airline had
asked the Chicago court to extend the period of exclusivity under
Chapter 11 bankruptcy proceedings.
http://news.airwise.com/stories/2004/02/1076448121.html
Ouch, the third time.
Casey

Is a company usually granted an extention for the 3rd time and if the
bankruptcy court delines, what does that mean for United?

FWIW, From a friend who's a United 1st officer out of Miami. United is
closing their Miami base as of May 1st. They are also giving up some S.
America routes from Miami. Miami will become just another stop on their
route like Jacksonville or Orlando.

My friend will have to dead head to SF to start his flights. He thinks
of it as a 5hr 3k mile commute to work.


They are also trying to screw their retirees out of medical benefits (fer
starters...).

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Best
Greg

On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 11:46:23 -0500 (EST) (Eric Toline)
wrote:

:My friend will have to dead head to SF to start his flights. He thinks
:of it as a 5hr 3k mile commute to work.

How early (before his scheduled work flight) does he have to arrive?

Are there any FAA rules requiring certain amounts of sleep before working?

--
Binyamin Dissen
http://www.dissensoftware.com

Binyamin Dissen wrote:
On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 11:46:23 -0500 (EST) (Eric Toline)
wrote:

:My friend will have to dead head to SF to start his flights. He thinks
:of it as a 5hr 3k mile commute to work.

How early (before his scheduled work flight) does he have to arrive?

Are there any FAA rules requiring certain amounts of sleep before working?


How would they enforce that?

On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 20:28:19 GMT mrtravelkay wrote:

:Binyamin Dissen wrote:
: On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 11:46:23 -0500 (EST) (Eric Toline)
: wrote:

: :My friend will have to dead head to SF to start his flights. He thinks
: :of it as a 5hr 3k mile commute to work.

: How early (before his scheduled work flight) does he have to arrive?

: Are there any FAA rules requiring certain amounts of sleep before working?

:How would they enforce that?

Like speeding - if they catch you, you are burned.

--
Binyamin Dissen
http://www.dissensoftware.com

Binyamin Dissen wrote:

On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 20:28:19 GMT mrtravelkay wrote:

:Binyamin Dissen wrote:
: On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 11:46:23 -0500 (EST) (Eric Toline)
: wrote:

: :My friend will have to dead head to SF to start his flights. He thinks
: :of it as a 5hr 3k mile commute to work.

: How early (before his scheduled work flight) does he have to arrive?

: Are there any FAA rules requiring certain amounts of sleep before working?

:How would they enforce that?

Like speeding - if they catch you, you are burned.


How would they catch you. If you speed, they can determine this with a
radar. How would they know how much sleep you got. There are required
rest periods, where you aren't on duty, but there is no requirement to
sleep during them. If you go home for 8 hours, how would they know
whether you got 1 or 7 hours sleep?

just "time not on duty" - not "sleep"

"Binyamin Dissen" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 11:46:23 -0500 (EST) (Eric Toline)
wrote:

:My friend will have to dead head to SF to start his flights. He thinks
:of it as a 5hr 3k mile commute to work.

How early (before his scheduled work flight) does he have to arrive?

Are there any FAA rules requiring certain amounts of sleep before working?

--
Binyamin Dissen
http://www.dissensoftware.com