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"Catfight" on a BA flight
"Banty" wrote in message ... From what I've read, (and just experience IRL), what made the difference here is that the women were *not* involved in a fight with the FAs or any other of the crew, and were *not* disobeying instructions from crew. The matter being clearly between two pax, the task at hand for the FA's was one of settling it as easily and calmly as possible. Which, seeing that apparently the women were embarassed by their own behavior, only took time and monitoring to accomplish. Which is goodness. If the FA's *had* intervened too soon or too much, the situation would most likely involve crew also, then it would be an escalated situation. Of course, sometimes they would have to, but best to keep the situation a low-key one as possible given any choice. I'd wager that the FA's reacted exactly as they were trained, knowing the boundaries and contingencies, and clearly it was successful. And I'd wager that, if two men were hassling similarly, it woudl have ended the same. Perhaps the situation would have changed if you assume that men would have been more violent or disruptive to other pax, but I wouldn't make that assumption. I fully agree with the logic of what you're saying. However in UK law there exists an offence of "acting in a disruptive manner (including interfering with cabin crew in the course of their duty)" This "acting in a disruptive" manner could be rather open to interpretation Another time, another day who knows? I'm extremely happy that the FAs resolved the situation in the way that they did. -- Peter X-Files Fan Please Note: Emailed replies cc'd / bcc'd , containing HTML or attachments auto-binned as spam |
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"Catfight" on a BA flight
In article , Trust No One® says...
"Banty" wrote in message ... From what I've read, (and just experience IRL), what made the difference here is that the women were *not* involved in a fight with the FAs or any other of the crew, and were *not* disobeying instructions from crew. The matter being clearly between two pax, the task at hand for the FA's was one of settling it as easily and calmly as possible. Which, seeing that apparently the women were embarassed by their own behavior, only took time and monitoring to accomplish. Which is goodness. If the FA's *had* intervened too soon or too much, the situation would most likely involve crew also, then it would be an escalated situation. Of course, sometimes they would have to, but best to keep the situation a low-key one as possible given any choice. I'd wager that the FA's reacted exactly as they were trained, knowing the boundaries and contingencies, and clearly it was successful. And I'd wager that, if two men were hassling similarly, it woudl have ended the same. Perhaps the situation would have changed if you assume that men would have been more violent or disruptive to other pax, but I wouldn't make that assumption. I fully agree with the logic of what you're saying. However in UK law there exists an offence of "acting in a disruptive manner (including interfering with cabin crew in the course of their duty)" This "acting in a disruptive" manner could be rather open to interpretation Another time, another day who knows? I'm extremely happy that the FAs resolved the situation in the way that they did. Well, I'm on the West side of The Pond grin so I can't speak to UK law at all. But could this offense be something similar to anti-loitering laws, such that it is applied as necessary, but not against anyone who could possibly fit in the definition? Cheers, Banty |
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"Catfight" on a BA flight
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"None" wrote: "Traveler" wrote in message news:COqlb.34634$At.7918@edtnps84... Were the two ladies met by any sort of police on landing? Were they moved to other seats? What was the outcome? No police, no outcome, because no incident. One thing British Airways flight attendants do NOT put up with is on-board bull**** from the passengers. BA FAs are HIGHLY trained for just such situations, and their training films are used by many carriers. If something like this had actually taken place, those FAs would have floored both of these women in a heartbeat, and have the means onboard to restrain people in their seats if need be. if FAs dealt with problems like kids kicking seats things like this would not need to escalate the woman whose kid was kicking is also the one who started the hitting -- she is the problem -- and FAs should have intervened to prevent the original assault of kid on seat back getting this far out of hand |
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"Catfight" on a BA flight
If it had been two males arguing, I suspect that the FAs would not have taken
any chances and stopped it right away. Perhaps there is a general feeling that 2 females involved in a catfight poses less danger to the plane and passengers and is see just as entertainment (or annoyance). I hope that Virgin will install a large vat of Jello in the belly of its A340-600s. Whenever such a catfight starts, throw the 2 (or more) females into the large vat of Jello and then have cameras retransmit the fight live to satellite TV networks all over the world. Consider the revenus Virgin could derive from this :-) :-) |
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