French Attitude

On Sun, 19 Oct 2008 22:11:27 +0200, Martin wrote:

On Sun, 19 Oct 2008 13:55:25 -0500, "Gregory Morrow" wrote:

"Administered" by scRunge...???

In his dreams.

ScRunge's wet dreams? No thanks.



Keith (formerly of Bristol UK)
now moved to Berlin/nach Berlin umgezogen

Martin a écrit :
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 02:10:29 -0500, Hackamore wrote:

Gregory Morrow wrote:
Runge13 blabbles:

Well you didn't look hard enough

"Bier '33' "

I've always thought of that as vietnamese beer
Bia 33?
What do you make of this? http://www.wipo.int/ipdl/en/madrid/key.jsp?KEY=445301A

"Brasseries et Glacières d'Indochine" was a big French company before
Vietnamese independance.
They have apparently split in a number of small brands.
The French branch still sells "33 export" pronounce "Trente-trois".
The Franco-Vietnamese brands that I know in Saîgon a
333 (Ba ba ba),
BGI,
Bière Larue (the name of the founder in 1909 ? )
I do think there is any link today between the French and Vietnamese
companies.

I suggest to have a sandwich of "con bo cuoi" with your 333.
Also known as "La Vache qui rit".

33 or 333 seems to refer to the size ot the bottle 0,33 or 0,333
litre.
It is certainly less tasty than Saigon River water, but cooler.

kodok a écrit :

I do think there is any link today between the French and Vietnamese
companies.
Please read "I do not think there is any link ".

Nothing else to add, enema morrow ?

"Gregory Morrow" a écrit dans le message de
m...

Magical Enema sprayed:

Probably you have never been to France, otherwise you should know about
the Alsace with is Kronenbourg, 33 and 1664 and many more. But it is
probably too sophisticated to your tase.


I guess you are "too sophisticated" to know how to properly quote, eh
wot...???



--
Best
Greg

" I find Greg Morrow lowbrow, witless, and obnoxious. For him to claim
that
we are some
kind of comedy team turns my stomach."
- "cybercat" to me on rec.food.cooking

Of course not.
morrow travels from his couch and thinks he knows best.

"yod-yog+ais" a écrit dans
le message de ...
On 10/16/2008 10:27 PM Hackamore ignored two million years of human
evolution to write:

here (north edge of the Mississippi Delta) I either go to the local
brew-pub where I'll get their absolutely delicious porter this time of
year...

Memphis? Boscos (or is that Nashville)?

or a local free house with an impressive domestic microbrew selection
(and import draft)

Flying Saucer?

where I'd like to find good domestic beer is France...

Depends on where you are in France. There are a number of good
specialist breweries and even a few brewpubs, including the
Trois Brasseurs group. There are quite a few good specialist
beer bars too, and Belgian beer is also easy to find. I've
never had difficulty finding decent beer, domestic or otherwise,
in France.

Mike O'Sullivan wrote:
yieeedyaiegssse wrote:
Hatunen wrote:

On Tue, 14 Oct 2008 08:59:30 -0700, yieeedyaiegssse
om wrote:

[...] Actually, all beer - regular or
"small" - was significantly safer than water in the urbanized areas
back
in those not-so-good old days.


I have seen it authoritatively said that the American Founding
Fathers were always in a somewhat inebriated state.

I've seen it similar said that nearly everyone was at least mildly
inebriated back in those olden days. Even children were likely to
drink a low-alcohol "small" or "table" beer rather than potentially
spoiled milk or fruit juices, contaminated water, or expensive wine.

I've heard it said, rightly or not, that present-day beer is so weak
that some of it could have been legally sold in the US, during prohibition.

Hi,

there is this stuff called "3.2" or 3.2 % alcohol beer... it's so weak
you have to try really hard to get the slightest "buzz" off the stuff.

and before the actual end of prohibition this stuff was legal to sell...
it was NOT legal to sell it during most of prohibition... though there
was (and still IS) 0.5% alcohol "near beer" that was legal throughout
prohibition.

--

Hackamore
http://www.hackamore.com
http://hackamoretravel.blogspot.com

here (north edge of the Mississippi Delta) I either go to the local
brew-pub where I'll get their absolutely delicious porter this time of
year...

Memphis? Boscos (or is that Nashville)?

Hi,

the first bosco's was here (it's closed but midtown is lively) in
Memphis though there is a Nashville location.

memphis has I think 3 brew pubs these days.

or a local free house with an impressive domestic microbrew selection
(and import draft)

Flying Saucer?

in my case the one in Germantown...

I find their food lacking...

I can manage to snack at it but it doesn't really thrill me...

Maybe I'm just spoiled by the calimari or the garlic cheese fries at
bosco's.

where I'd like to find good domestic beer is France...

Depends on where you are in France. There are a number of good
specialist breweries and even a few brewpubs, including the
Trois Brasseurs group. There are quite a few good specialist
beer bars too, and Belgian beer is also easy to find. I've
never had difficulty finding decent beer, domestic or otherwise,
in France.

finding good beer has never been a problem...

I've just never had good french beer...

and sometimes the border is so close it's silly... like Chimay... just
BARELY across into Belgium but great beer.

--

Hackamore
http://www.hackamore.com
http://hackamoretravel.blogspot.com

Mike O'Sullivan wrote:
Hackamore wrote:

where I'd like to find good domestic beer is France...


No problem in Amsterdam eh Frank?
Have you frequented 't Arendsnest, with 200 beers?

http://www.arendsnest.nl/

Hi,

I don't have any problems with beer in Amsterdam...

I may have been in it... hit a place 1 night that had a HUGE
selection... but it's not on my regulars list.

My 2 favorites are the Cafe de Dam right off dam square on damstraat...
TINY little place but friendly....a Heineken bar... but has the bock
too... and sells enough of both that they're nice and fresh (fresh beer
is good beer) and Cafe Zwart on Spui... a little nicer but still a
friendly traditional place... CZ a lot more "dutch" the tourists flock
to Hoppe a few feet away.

I've hardly ever had a bad dutch beer... with the exception of a whit
beir(sp?) I had one time... not to be confused with a wheat beer... this
stuff was WHITE and served with fruit.

But yea... in Amsterdam I'll get whatever is on tap... a dekoning(sp?)
if they have it but otherwise whatever is on tap as the regular draft is
just fine.

I'm going to make it a point next spring to go to the IJ ? I think it
is... a brew-pub with strange hours and nowhere near a tramline... I'll
bike it.

in the UK I generally see a wider selection though I'm guessing it's
like the US and what I'm seeing is one brewery's product line... still
I'll get a pint of whatever I haven't had before... generally I like
porters and stouts and shy away from IPA type stuff.

--

== Hackamore ==
http://www.hackamore.com/
http://hackamoretravel.blogspot.com/

Hackamore wrote:

My 2 favorites are the Cafe de Dam right off dam square on damstraat...
TINY little place but friendly....a Heineken bar... but has the bock
too... and sells enough of both that they're nice and fresh (fresh beer
is good beer) and Cafe Zwart on Spui... a little nicer but still a
friendly traditional place... CZ a lot more "dutch" the tourists flock
to Hoppe a few feet away.

I've hardly ever had a bad dutch beer... with the exception of a whit
beir(sp?) I had one time... not to be confused with a wheat beer... this
stuff was WHITE and served with fruit.

But yea... in Amsterdam I'll get whatever is on tap... a dekoning(sp?)
if they have it but otherwise whatever is on tap as the regular draft is
just fine.

I'm going to make it a point next spring to go to the IJ ? I think it
is... a brew-pub with strange hours and nowhere near a tramline... I'll
bike it.

This one?
http://www.europeanbeerguide.net/amspubs5.htm#ij

Martin a écrit :
On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 07:40:28 +0000, Mike O'Sullivan wrote:

Hackamore wrote:

My 2 favorites are the Cafe de Dam right off dam square on damstraat....
TINY little place but friendly....a Heineken bar... but has the bock
too... and sells enough of both that they're nice and fresh (fresh beer
is good beer) and Cafe Zwart on Spui... a little nicer but still a
friendly traditional place... CZ a lot more "dutch" the tourists flock
to Hoppe a few feet away.

I've hardly ever had a bad dutch beer...

Heineken beers are nearly all bad beers.

with the exception of a whit
beir(sp?) I had one time... not to be confused with a wheat beer... this
stuff was WHITE and served with fruit.

witbier

If it was bad it was probably Wiekse Witte a Heineken product.
http://www.europeanbeerguide.net/hollbeer.htm
"Disgusting stale hop aroma that overwhelms everything else. Completely wrong
for a witbier and revolting, too."

See Amstel and Heineken on the same site.

But yea... in Amsterdam I'll get whatever is on tap... a dekoning(sp?)
if they have it but otherwise whatever is on tap as the regular draft is
just fine.

I'm going to make it a point next spring to go to the IJ ? I think it
is... a brew-pub with strange hours and nowhere near a tramline... I'll
bike it.

This one?
http://www.europeanbeerguide.net/amspubs5.htm#ij

Wiekse Witte ? Would you translate by "Wichse weiß" in German ?
Not everybody's taste, but it should more spicy (fruity ?) than
Heineken's water.