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Cyrus Afzali wrote:
be patheticly sad, given the fact you don't even have the guts to use your real name despite the fact everyone knows who you are. Cyrus Afzali, meet Nomen Nescio. Nomen Nescio, meet Cyrus Afzali. Hope you don't get awakened too many times in the middle of the night because someone was told you were about to kill yourself and sent in the cavalry. "devil" was *way* ahead of me on this and I certaintly regret not folliwing in his footsteps earlier. offering. They see PBS less essential now that most American homes have a variety of cable or satellite offerings and people are for the most part no longer limited to 13 channels captured on an over-the-air antenna. Things like "Nature" can now be seen on Discovery Networks, They blast PBS not because of the type of funding it gets, buit because of the type of programs and intelligent analysis of news events which does not correspond to what they would like to believe in. And they've blasted CBS because CBS dared get an anti-bush slant and now, CBS is also a left wing liberal network. The fact that such networks get more insults now than before is yet another reflection of the change in american mentality. Just because the masses don't go for the things that are on PBS doesn't mean they're not educated. Education is far more than going to school to get a piece of paper. It is a state of mind that remain always open to learn from others, and not just hear other points of view, but listen to them. But if you think that happens only in America, you're delusional. America is the one currently undergoing fundamental changes. Sorry, but you're the subject of study, a guinnee pig of sorts. That's the result of a transition from a superpower to a religions 14th century mentality state. How do you think oppressive regimes are able to keep control of masses when they're clearly outnumbered? Propaganda they use is nothing more than a different form of marketing. Exactly. And what is happening is the USA right now provide a good "today" insight of what might have happened in the past when population supported their leader, thinking their leaders were doing good things when in fact they were committing war crimes and other atrocities. Yes, political parties in the U.S. use a form of marketing, but so do they in most parts of the world where citizens are involved in elections. But rarely have we witnessed such a dramatic/visible change in a democratic country's mentality. |
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On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 14:17:52 -0500, nobody wrote:
Cyrus Afzali wrote: You appeared to be saying I was incorrect in saying there was no hypocrisy in poor ole "Nobody's" statement that PBS is socialist. You onviously didn't see the sarcasm in my statement. It was a poke at all those americans who decry anything "liberal" as being evil, communist, socialist (and I guess another "ist": terrorist :-) Oh, wasn't it a bit too soon to put him out of his misery? --==++AJC++==-- |
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On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 14:17:52 -0500, nobody wrote:
Cyrus Afzali wrote: You appeared to be saying I was incorrect in saying there was no hypocrisy in poor ole "Nobody's" statement that PBS is socialist. You onviously didn't see the sarcasm in my statement. It was a poke at all those americans who decry anything "liberal" as being evil, communist, socialist (and I guess another "ist": terrorist :-) Oh, wasn't it a bit too soon to put him out of his misery? --==++AJC++==-- |
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rk wrote:
Yup, the US public was presented with documents that were forged. Further information yielded the fact that CBS' own consultants alerted them to the fact that the documents could not be shown to be authentic but that CBS went with the documents anyway. And the public stood up and did not simply take the forged documents being used in the "news" program. That hardly explains the public's infatuation with Fox News, that paid lawyers to stand up in court and argue their right to present known false information. miguel -- Hit The Road! Photos from 32 countries on 5 continents: http://travel.u.nu |
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Miguel Cruz wrote:
rk wrote: Yup, the US public was presented with documents that were forged. Further information yielded the fact that CBS' own consultants alerted them to the fact that the documents could not be shown to be authentic but that CBS went with the documents anyway. And the public stood up and did not simply take the forged documents being used in the "news" program. That hardly explains the public's infatuation with Fox News, that paid lawyers to stand up in court and argue their right to present known false information. The only infatuation with Fox News appears to be by you, since you are the one who interjected it into a discussion about CBS without any connection that topic for some reason. (Besides where else could we see Susan Estrich, Geraldine Ferraro, Jane Hall, Morton Kondracke, Mara Liasson, and Juan Williams on a regular basis?) |
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Miguel Cruz wrote:
rk wrote: Yup, the US public was presented with documents that were forged. Further information yielded the fact that CBS' own consultants alerted them to the fact that the documents could not be shown to be authentic but that CBS went with the documents anyway. And the public stood up and did not simply take the forged documents being used in the "news" program. That hardly explains the public's infatuation with Fox News, that paid lawyers to stand up in court and argue their right to present known false information. The only infatuation with Fox News appears to be by you, since you are the one who interjected it into a discussion about CBS without any connection that topic for some reason. (Besides where else could we see Susan Estrich, Geraldine Ferraro, Jane Hall, Morton Kondracke, Mara Liasson, and Juan Williams on a regular basis?) |
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Melissa Wright wrote:
Miguel Cruz wrote: rk wrote: Yup, the US public was presented with documents that were forged. Further information yielded the fact that CBS' own consultants alerted them to the fact that the documents could not be shown to be authentic but that CBS went with the documents anyway. And the public stood up and did not simply take the forged documents being used in the "news" program. That hardly explains the public's infatuation with Fox News, that paid lawyers to stand up in court and argue their right to present known false information. The only infatuation with Fox News appears to be by you, since you are the one who interjected it into a discussion about CBS without any connection that topic for some reason. It's very connected to the topic. RK contended that the public does not stand for inaccurate news reporting, and cited CBS as an example. I am disputing his contention by offering Fox News as a counterexample. That's how this sort of discussion works. If someone says "all dogs are black" and I point out that my neighbor has a white dog, it doesn't mean that I am obsessed with my neighbor's dog, or that I am changing the subject. Hope that helps. miguel -- Hit The Road! Photos from 32 countries on 5 continents: http://travel.u.nu |
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Melissa Wright wrote:
Miguel Cruz wrote: rk wrote: Yup, the US public was presented with documents that were forged. Further information yielded the fact that CBS' own consultants alerted them to the fact that the documents could not be shown to be authentic but that CBS went with the documents anyway. And the public stood up and did not simply take the forged documents being used in the "news" program. That hardly explains the public's infatuation with Fox News, that paid lawyers to stand up in court and argue their right to present known false information. The only infatuation with Fox News appears to be by you, since you are the one who interjected it into a discussion about CBS without any connection that topic for some reason. It's very connected to the topic. RK contended that the public does not stand for inaccurate news reporting, and cited CBS as an example. I am disputing his contention by offering Fox News as a counterexample. That's how this sort of discussion works. If someone says "all dogs are black" and I point out that my neighbor has a white dog, it doesn't mean that I am obsessed with my neighbor's dog, or that I am changing the subject. Hope that helps. miguel -- Hit The Road! Photos from 32 countries on 5 continents: http://travel.u.nu |
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rk wrote:
Miguel Cruz wrote: Miguel Cruz wrote: rk wrote: Yup, the US public was presented with documents that were forged. Further information yielded the fact that CBS' own consultants alerted them to the fact that the documents could not be shown to be authentic but that CBS went with the documents anyway. And the public stood up and did not simply take the forged documents being used in the "news" program. It's very connected to the topic. RK contended that the public does not stand for inaccurate news reporting, and cited CBS as an example. I am disputing his contention by offering Fox News as a counterexample. That's how this sort of discussion works. You have it backwards. nobody used it as an example. Except you. miguel -- Hit The Road! Photos from 32 countries on 5 continents: http://travel.u.nu |
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rk wrote:
Miguel Cruz wrote: Miguel Cruz wrote: rk wrote: Yup, the US public was presented with documents that were forged. Further information yielded the fact that CBS' own consultants alerted them to the fact that the documents could not be shown to be authentic but that CBS went with the documents anyway. And the public stood up and did not simply take the forged documents being used in the "news" program. It's very connected to the topic. RK contended that the public does not stand for inaccurate news reporting, and cited CBS as an example. I am disputing his contention by offering Fox News as a counterexample. That's how this sort of discussion works. You have it backwards. nobody used it as an example. Except you. miguel -- Hit The Road! Photos from 32 countries on 5 continents: http://travel.u.nu |
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