San Sebastian, Spain to Paris, France?

What are the best ways for 2 travellers to get from San Sebastian to Paris
during summer?
I presume train, but train schedules for July are not out yet.

Would it be a Spanish train or a French train anyway? We are planning to
get a France and Italy Eurail train pass. Would the trip leaving San
Sebastian qualify for this pass since it is enroute to France?

How many train changes would be required and in what cities?

"John Smith" wrote in message
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What are the best ways for 2 travellers to get from San Sebastian to Paris
during summer?
I presume train, but train schedules for July are not out yet.

Would it be a Spanish train or a French train anyway? We are planning to
get a France and Italy Eurail train pass. Would the trip leaving San
Sebastian qualify for this pass since it is enroute to France?

How many train changes would be required and in what cities?
I travelled in 2003 in the reverse direction through that area. French TGV
trains ply between Paris and Irun vv. Irun is just over the Spanish border,
and San Sebastian is a quick trip by bus or RENFE train from Irun. Your
passes will be valid on the French trains betwen Irun and Paris. San
Sebastian to Irun is only a few kilometres and will cost you a few euros at
most - it will not be covered on your pass. There are also local rail
narrow gauge trains which go over the border into France to Hendaye, but I'm
not sure if there is a convenient connection there to the TGV.

Regards

David Bennetts
Australia

David Bennetts a écrit :
"John Smith" wrote in message
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What are the best ways for 2 travellers to get from San Sebastian to Paris
during summer?
I presume train, but train schedules for July are not out yet.
Schedules are already available. TGV run from Hendaye.
http://www.voyages-sncf.com/dynamic/...geUK&WB= HP_A
4 OUTWARD JOURNEYS available for Saturday 02/07
HENDAYE PLAGE 07h50 TER 66578
BAYONNE 08h20
BAYONNE 08h40 TGV 8524
choose this outward journey
PARIS MONTPARNASSE 1 ET 2 13h40
28/06/2005 3
IRUN GARE 07h20 CORAIL 205
HENDAYE GARE 07h25
HENDAYE GARE 08h08 TGV 8524
PARIS MONTPARNASSE 1 ET 2 13h45
4 OUTWARD JOURNEYS available for Saturday 02/07
For local spanish trains from San Sebastian/Donostia to Hendaya, see
http://horarios.renfe.es/hir/ingles.html
but schedules after 11/06 are not yet available.

00310 Surex 06:34 07:10 DIARIO
del 02-02-2005
al 12-06-2005
Precios

Clases
Aparcamiento con franquicia para viajeros de Preferente, Gran Clase y
Club: 24h. viaje ida, 48h. viaje ida y vueltaRevista "Paisajes"Servicio
CafeteríaReserva Telefónica
00933 Pio Baroja 07:45 08:15 LMXJVS
del 11-04-2005
al 12-06-2005
First 10,00
FirstChildren 6,00
PreferenteLiteraCama Aparcamiento con franquicia para viajeros de
Preferente, Gran Clase y Club: 24h. viaje ida, 48h. viaje ida y
vueltaRevista "Paisajes"Servicio CafeteríaReserva Telefónica
00410 DIURNO 16:40 17:07 DIARIO
del 12-12-2004
al 11-06-2005
Tourist 7,50
TouristChildren 4,50
Turista Aparcamiento con franquicia para viajeros de Preferente, Gran
Clase y Club: 24h. viaje ida, 48h. viaje ida y vueltaServicio
CafeteríaReserva Telefónica
00280 DIURNO 20:05 20:35 DIARIO
del 18-03-2005
al 11-06-2005
Tourist 7,50
TouristChildren 4,50
Turista Aparcamiento con franquicia para viajeros de Preferente, Gran
Clase y Club: 24h. viaje ida, 48h. viaje ida y vueltaServicio
CafeteríaReserva Telefónica
00533 Miguel de Unamuno 20:32 21:05 DIARIO
del 01-02-2005
al 11-06-2005
Tourist 8,00
TouristChildren 4,80
First 10,50
FirstChildren 6,30


Would it be a Spanish train or a French train anyway? We are planning to
get a France and Italy Eurail train pass. Would the trip leaving San
Sebastian qualify for this pass since it is enroute to France?

How many train changes would be required and in what cities?

I travelled in 2003 in the reverse direction through that area. French TGV
trains ply between Paris and Irun vv. Irun is just over the Spanish border,
and San Sebastian is a quick trip by bus or RENFE train from Irun. Your
passes will be valid on the French trains betwen Irun and Paris. San
Sebastian to Irun is only a few kilometres and will cost you a few euros at
most - it will not be covered on your pass. There are also local rail
narrow gauge trains which go over the border into France to Hendaye, but I'm
not sure if there is a convenient connection there to the TGV.

Regards

David Bennetts
Australia

Have a look around this site. There is info on railpasses and links.

http://www.seat61.com/

Where do you change trains to get on the French train? Is it Irun or
Hendaye?

On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 18:51:38 -0800, John Smith wrote*:

Where do you change trains to get on the French train? Is it Irun or
Hendaye?
Hendaye.
00310 Surex 06:34 07:10 DIARIO del 02-02-2005 al 12-06-2005
SAN SEBASTIAN/DONOSTIA 06:32 06:34
IRUN 06:58 06:59
HENDAYA 07:10

On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 18:51:38 -0800, John Smith wrote*:

Where do you change trains to get on the French train? Is it Irun or
Hendaye?
http://www.arrakis.es/~aiur/san-sebastian.html
see How to come

"John Smith" wrote in message
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Where do you change trains to get on the French train? Is it Irun or
Hendaye?

There are two stations in San Sebastian, one is the RENFE Spanish Railways
broad gauge station. Trains from there only go to Irun, where you can
change to standard gauge SNCF French ones.

The other is the local service narrow gauge Euskotren station, from where
you can go over the French border to Hendaye, and catch the French train,
which is apparently from alongside the Euskotren station.

A bit complicated, but the mix of three different gauges and three different
railway companies around the border location makes for a bit of a puzzle to
sort out.

Regards

David Bennetts
Australia

It's pretty compllicated. The Spanish schedules do not go past June 11,
2005 and the French rail schedules do not show the Irun to Paris trip past
June either. Instead of an explanation the SNFC website displays "a
technical error has occured" when I select Irun to Paris in July.
The French rail site does show schedules to Paris in July when you choose
Hendaye to Paris instead of Irun to Paris though.
Do some SNFC trains end at Hendaye and not cross the border into Irun?
When should complete summer schedules for RNFE and SCFC be released online?


"David Bennetts" wrote in message
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"John Smith" wrote in message
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Where do you change trains to get on the French train? Is it Irun or
Hendaye?

There are two stations in San Sebastian, one is the RENFE Spanish Railways
broad gauge station. Trains from there only go to Irun, where you can
change to standard gauge SNCF French ones.

The other is the local service narrow gauge Euskotren station, from where
you can go over the French border to Hendaye, and catch the French train,
which is apparently from alongside the Euskotren station.

A bit complicated, but the mix of three different gauges and three
different railway companies around the border location makes for a bit of
a puzzle to sort out.

Regards

David Bennetts
Australia

David Bennetts schrieb:

I presume train, but train schedules for July are not out yet.

Would it be a Spanish train or a French train anyway? We are planning to
get a France and Italy Eurail train pass. Would the trip leaving San
Sebastian qualify for this pass since it is enroute to France?

How many train changes would be required and in what cities?
I travelled in 2003 in the reverse direction through that area. French TGV
trains ply between Paris and Irun vv. Irun is just over the Spanish border,
and San Sebastian is a quick trip by bus or RENFE train from Irun. Your
passes will be valid on the French trains betwen Irun and Paris. San
Sebastian to Irun is only a few kilometres and will cost you a few euros at
most - it will not be covered on your pass. There are also local rail
narrow gauge trains which go over the border into France to Hendaye, but I'm
not sure if there is a convenient connection there to the TGV.

Quite convenient if the timetable fits, which is not coordinated.

Regards, ULF