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Old January 5th, 2007, 03:31 PM posted to alt.activism.death-penalty,talk.politics.misc,uk.politics.misc,aus.politics,rec.travel.europe
PJ O'Donovan[_1_]
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Default From Down Under: The Joys of Socialized medicine

Ban smokers from some surgery, says doctor

Sydney Morning Herald (AU), by Ruth Pollard


"IT IS known to cause more heart complications, impair tissue healing
and result in more post-operative infections. Now a doctor is pushing
for smoking to be a criterion that eliminates people from access to
some elective surgery. A respiratory surgeon, Matthew Peters, said
denying smokers joint replacements, reconstructive surgery and other
elective operations was justified in a health system with limited
resources because it was more risky and expensive to operate on
them....."


Ah, the joys of socialized medicine. Next the overweight will be banned
from elective surgery, then cell phone users, then...?

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Old January 5th, 2007, 03:37 PM posted to alt.activism.death-penalty,talk.politics.misc,uk.politics.misc,aus.politics,rec.travel.europe
Stephen Horgan
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PJ O'Donovan wrote:
Ban smokers from some surgery, says doctor

Sydney Morning Herald (AU), by Ruth Pollard


"IT IS known to cause more heart complications, impair tissue healing
and result in more post-operative infections. Now a doctor is pushing
for smoking to be a criterion that eliminates people from access to
some elective surgery. A respiratory surgeon, Matthew Peters, said
denying smokers joint replacements, reconstructive surgery and other
elective operations was justified in a health system with limited
resources because it was more risky and expensive to operate on
them....."


Ah, the joys of socialized medicine. Next the overweight will be banned
from elective surgery, then cell phone users, then...?


I have had hundreds of thousands of pounds of first-class treatment
under Britain's NHS. An insurance scheme would have hung me out to dry.

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Old January 5th, 2007, 03:39 PM posted to alt.activism.death-penalty,talk.politics.misc,uk.politics.misc,aus.politics,rec.travel.europe
jb
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"PJ O'Donovan" wrote in message
ups.com...
Ban smokers from some surgery, says doctor

Sydney Morning Herald (AU), by Ruth Pollard


"IT IS known to cause more heart complications, impair tissue healing
and result in more post-operative infections. Now a doctor is pushing
for smoking to be a criterion that eliminates people from access to
some elective surgery. A respiratory surgeon, Matthew Peters, said
denying smokers joint replacements, reconstructive surgery and other
elective operations was justified in a health system with limited
resources because it was more risky and expensive to operate on
them....."


Ah, the joys of socialized medicine. Next the overweight will be banned
from elective surgery, then cell phone users, then...?

SUV drivers and people who allow themselves to be carried in such vehicles.
Here in the UK, some tax from the taxes levied upon smokers is "ring fenced"
solely for the NHS.
The rest of their money coming from the Treasury.
The tax on tobacco that is not "ring fenced" goes into the Treasury.
So the NHS gets two bites of the cherry.


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Old January 5th, 2007, 04:17 PM posted to alt.activism.death-penalty,talk.politics.misc,uk.politics.misc,aus.politics,rec.travel.europe
Deeply Filled Mortician
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Default From Down Under: The Joys of Socialized medicine

Let is be knownst that on 5 Jan 2007 07:31:54 -0800, "PJ O'Donovan"
writted:

Ban smokers from some surgery, says doctor

Sydney Morning Herald (AU), by Ruth Pollard


"IT IS known to cause more heart complications, impair tissue healing
and result in more post-operative infections. Now a doctor is pushing
for smoking to be a criterion that eliminates people from access to
some elective surgery. A respiratory surgeon, Matthew Peters, said
denying smokers joint replacements, reconstructive surgery and other
elective operations was justified in a health system with limited
resources because it was more risky and expensive to operate on
them....."


Ah, the joys of socialized medicine. Next the overweight will be banned
from elective surgery, then cell phone users, then...?


FWIW, I think it's a damn good idea. If people are prepared to
knowingly compromise their health by smoking, let them pay more for
the privilege.
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Old January 5th, 2007, 04:28 PM posted to alt.activism.death-penalty,talk.politics.misc,uk.politics.misc,aus.politics,rec.travel.europe
John Rennie
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"jb" wrote in message
o.uk...

"PJ O'Donovan" wrote in message
ups.com...
Ban smokers from some surgery, says doctor

Sydney Morning Herald (AU), by Ruth Pollard


"IT IS known to cause more heart complications, impair tissue healing
and result in more post-operative infections. Now a doctor is pushing
for smoking to be a criterion that eliminates people from access to
some elective surgery. A respiratory surgeon, Matthew Peters, said
denying smokers joint replacements, reconstructive surgery and other
elective operations was justified in a health system with limited
resources because it was more risky and expensive to operate on
them....."


Ah, the joys of socialized medicine. Next the overweight will be banned
from elective surgery, then cell phone users, then...?

SUV drivers and people who allow themselves to be carried in such
vehicles.
Here in the UK, some tax from the taxes levied upon smokers is "ring
fenced"
solely for the NHS.
The rest of their money coming from the Treasury.
The tax on tobacco that is not "ring fenced" goes into the Treasury.
So the NHS gets two bites of the cherry.



http://www.latimes.com/news/printedi...ck=1&cset=true


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Old January 5th, 2007, 05:15 PM posted to alt.activism.death-penalty,talk.politics.misc,uk.politics.misc,aus.politics,rec.travel.europe
Padraig Breathnach
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Default From Down Under: The Joys of Socialized medicine

Deeply Filled Mortician
wrote:

Let is be knownst that on 5 Jan 2007 07:31:54 -0800, "PJ O'Donovan"
writted:

Ah, the joys of socialized medicine. Next the overweight will be banned
from elective surgery, then cell phone users, then...?


FWIW, I think it's a damn good idea. If people are prepared to
knowingly compromise their health by smoking, let them pay more for
the privilege.

They do. Tobacco taxes are very high almost everywhere.

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Old January 5th, 2007, 06:19 PM posted to alt.activism.death-penalty,talk.politics.misc,uk.politics.misc,aus.politics,rec.travel.europe
Mike O'Sullivan
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Default From Down Under: The Joys of Socialized medicine

John Rennie wrote:


http://www.latimes.com/news/printedi...ck=1&cset=true

Why not just tell us what it says. Can't be bothereed to register just
to read one news story!

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Old January 5th, 2007, 06:20 PM posted to alt.activism.death-penalty,talk.politics.misc,uk.politics.misc,aus.politics,rec.travel.europe
Mike O'Sullivan
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Default From Down Under: The Joys of Socialized medicine

Padraig Breathnach wrote:

FWIW, I think it's a damn good idea. If people are prepared to
knowingly compromise their health by smoking, let them pay more for
the privilege.

They do. Tobacco taxes are very high almost everywhere.

Not in Latvia they're not.
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Old January 5th, 2007, 06:32 PM posted to alt.activism.death-penalty,talk.politics.misc,uk.politics.misc,aus.politics,rec.travel.europe
Padraig Breathnach
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Mike O'Sullivan wrote:

Padraig Breathnach wrote:

FWIW, I think it's a damn good idea. If people are prepared to
knowingly compromise their health by smoking, let them pay more for
the privilege.

They do. Tobacco taxes are very high almost everywhere.

Not in Latvia they're not.


I'm glad I used the word "almost"!

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Old January 5th, 2007, 09:17 PM posted to alt.activism.death-penalty,talk.politics.misc,uk.politics.misc,aus.politics,rec.travel.europe
B J Foster
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Default From Down Under: The Joys of Socialized medicine

Deeply Filled Mortician wrote:

Let is be knownst that on 5 Jan 2007 07:31:54 -0800, "PJ O'Donovan"
writted:


Ban smokers from some surgery, says doctor

Sydney Morning Herald (AU), by Ruth Pollard


"IT IS known to cause more heart complications, impair tissue healing
and result in more post-operative infections. Now a doctor is pushing
for smoking to be a criterion that eliminates people from access to
some elective surgery. A respiratory surgeon, Matthew Peters, said
denying smokers joint replacements, reconstructive surgery and other
elective operations was justified in a health system with limited
resources because it was more risky and expensive to operate on
them....."


Ah, the joys of socialized medicine. Next the overweight will be banned


from elective surgery, then cell phone users, then...?


FWIW, I think it's a damn good idea. If people are prepared to
knowingly compromise their health by smoking, let them pay more for
the privilege.


If people are prepared to knowingly compromise their health by smoking,
let them pay more for the privilege.

If people are prepared to knowingly compromise their health by using
cell phones, let them pay more for the privilege.

If people are prepared to knowingly compromise their health through
eating, let them pay more for the privilege.

If people are prepared to knowingly compromise their health through
drinking, let them pay more for the privilege.

If people are prepared to knowingly compromise their health through
breathing, let them pay more for the privilege.
 




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