highways, expressways, freeways -- meaning

On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 17:31:57 -0000, Jim Battista
wrote:

"H. S." wrote in
:

What is the distinction between all these? Or are the words just
used interchangably? I am not sure if it should matter, but I am
asking from a Canadian point of view.

To echo others, freeways and expressways are the same thing,

Not in California, they're not.

and are the same as limited-access or controlled-access highways.

In California, freeways have interchanges; expessways may have
intersections, and may have entrances like driveways, but this is
controlled. "Controlled access" doesn't have to mean separated
grades.


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In article ,
"H. S." wrote:

What is the distinction between all these? Or are the words just used
interchangably? I am not sure if it should matter, but I am asking from
a Canadian point of view.

Depends on where you are. For example, in the Philadelphia area, we call
limitted access routes either an expressway or a highway. In California,
the same type of route is referred to as a freeway. They mean pretty
much the same thing, except when a toll (or fee) is charged, in which
case, its referred to as a turnpike in most areas.

Once upon a 2/12/04 8:53 PM, in the land of
, the good witch "Shawn "Me"
Hearn" from told the whole world all about how:

In article ,
"H. S." wrote:

What is the distinction between all these? Or are the words just used
interchangably? I am not sure if it should matter, but I am asking from
a Canadian point of view.

Depends on where you are. For example, in the Philadelphia area, we call
limitted access routes either an expressway or a highway. In California,
the same type of route is referred to as a freeway. They mean pretty
much the same thing, except when a toll (or fee) is charged, in which
case, its referred to as a turnpike in most areas.

Not at all. Toll roads are not "turnpikes" except in the east and midwest.
There are no "turnpikes" in the west. We do have toll roads.

Also, as has been said, an "expressway" in California is something
in-between a freeway and a major surface street. Often they're old major
grid streets to which most of the connections with side streets have been
broken, either by routing the side streets on bridges over the expressway,
or by simply dead-ending the side streets just before they would intersect.
These "expressways" do intersect normally (with stoplights and all) at major
intersections, they just don't have side streets and driveways feeding onto
them any old which-where. They are not at all common around here. They
mostly seem to be early "proto-freeways" from the 30s or 40s, generally no
more than 10 or 15 miles long, including the major intersections.

Here, an expressway is like an express bus or train--it doesn't stop
everywhere, but it still stops. On a freeway, you just go and go and go
freely, until you get off. Or so went the theory. Capacity capacity
capacity--that, they didn't know about.

But yes, on the east coast, "expressway" means what "freeway" means here.
--
Carmen L. Abruzzi

On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 23:42:22 -0800, "Carmen L. Abruzzi"
wrote:

Once upon a 2/12/04 8:53 PM, in the land of
, the good witch "Shawn "Me"
Hearn" from told the whole world all about how:

Depends on where you are. For example, in the Philadelphia area, we call
limitted access routes either an expressway or a highway. In California,
the same type of route is referred to as a freeway. They mean pretty
much the same thing, except when a toll (or fee) is charged, in which
case, its referred to as a turnpike in most areas.

Not at all. Toll roads are not "turnpikes" except in the east and midwest.
There are no "turnpikes" in the west. We do have toll roads.

Except for California's somewhat experimental toll freeways and
roads like Pebble Beach's 17-mile drive, where in the west are
there toll roads? And why doesn't the Oklahoma Turnpike count?


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In article ,
Hatunen wrote:
Except for California's somewhat experimental toll freeways and
roads like Pebble Beach's 17-mile drive, where in the west are
there toll roads?

In California, many major bridges.

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In article ,
Carmen L. Abruzzi wrote:
Also, as has been said, an "expressway" in California is something
in-between a freeway and a major surface street. Often they're old major
grid streets to which most of the connections with side streets have been
broken, either by routing the side streets on bridges over the expressway,
or by simply dead-ending the side streets just before they would intersect.

Sometimes, the small roads connect to only one side of the expressway,
so that one cannot cross the expressway on the small road or in a left
turn movement, but can turn right on to or off of the expressway.

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On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 01:31:55 GMT, (Timothy J.
Lee) wrote:

In article ,
Hatunen wrote:
Except for California's somewhat experimental toll freeways and
roads like Pebble Beach's 17-mile drive, where in the west are
there toll roads?

In California, many major bridges.

Humph.

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(Timothy J. Lee) wrote:
where in the west are there toll roads?

In California, many major bridges.

There are only two major bridges only small portions of which are in
California. The preponderance of the lengths of the San Francisco Bay
Bridge and the Golden Gate Bridge are here.

There are three that cross San Francisco Bay and a couple of others in
Northern California but I can think of only one South of Fremont that
has a toll.

Further, I don't think of bridges as roads although I understand how
others might.
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In New York, the most specific is parkways, which don't permit any
commercial traffic.

Miriam Nadel

On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 19:24:45 GMT, Miriam Nadel
wrote:

In New York, the most specific is parkways, which don't permit any
commercial traffic.

How come we drive on a parkway and park in a driveway?

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