What Are Pax Thinking About?

Benjamin Smith wrote:

Chrissy Cruiser wrote:

On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 22:33:13 -0600, wrote:


Chrissy, you are right. On my Conquest cruise, I noticed the French
theme througout, from the names of the various venues, to the decor. In
particular, we were in the Renoir dining room, the the backs/seperators
between each booth had little Eifel Towers on them.


Nice touches.


And, Karen, most people aren't particularly observant, nor are they into
aesthetics. It isn't that Farcus isn't communicating, the pax just
aren't "getting it".

Stranger


I agree. In this case, it's more like missing a screaming jet 2' overhead.

I don't agree that people aren't particularly observant, I think it is
what they select to observe. Different people can go into a room, one
can detect smells, one can detect how the light is disbursed, one can
detect the type of music playing, one can detect plants around the room,
etc.

I believe you are giving too much credit to the average boob!

Stranger


Farcus is so much into repeating elements that some may not want to make
it through the clutter to determine what the theme is. Some others
simply don't care. The ship has something they are looking for whether
it is a large amount of choices in the buffet, a well-equipped casino,
spas, a choice of balcony cabins, plenty bars to notice the bartending
service and drinks offered, some type of atrium but more the size of it
and how good it affords people watching than what decor details it has, etc.

Ben S.

Karen Segboer wrote:

Chrissy Cruiser wrote:

On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 23:25:22 GMT, Benjamin Smith wrote:

I don't agree that people aren't particularly observant, I think it is
what they select to observe.

Trust me on this one. There are ppl out there that wander through their
entire lives seeing nothing.

As an example of this, and with keeping on topic for this group, think
about the people you've met up with who have gone on a cruise, but
they can't tell you the name of the ship. Or they'll say they "went
on Carnival." When you ask which ship, they'll say "Carnival." When
you repeat, "what Carnival ship?" they look at you funny. They have
no idea what you mean, or that there was a name for that particular
Carnival ship.

Amazing!

Karen

I rest my case!

Stranger


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On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 23:30:07 -0600, wrote:

Though Farcus may be a bit vague, or even non-communicative, I think
that the average Joe and Jane these days go for the more obvious stuff,
such as laugh tracks on comedy TV series so they'll know when to laugh.
So, it wouldn't matter if Farcus was a magna cum laude graduate of Dale
Carnegie: these people would NEVER get it.

Not in a zillion years.

It goes without saying that I am NOT speaking of the astute participants
in this NG. :-)

Stranger

That's the problem with a lot of folks around here. They forget who we are
and we are not normal.

Do you think Ben Smith is normal? No offense there Ben but you're not.

On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 20:42:12 -0500, E.k.R. wrote:

Our passport was scanned at check-in but that was it. I don't know how MSC
gets away with it when every other cruise line makes a very big deal about
all these forms that MUST be filled out.

Ernie, those forms we have to fill out. What info on them is critical?

Chrissy Cruiser wrote:


Do you think Ben Smith is normal? No offense there Ben but you're not.

I take that as a compliment.

Ben S.

On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 22:50:50 GMT, Benjamin Smith wrote:


Do you think Ben Smith is normal? No offense there Ben but you're not.

I take that as a compliment.

Ben S.

It was meant to be.

On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 22:50:50 GMT, Benjamin Smith wrote:

Do you think Ben Smith is normal? No offense there Ben but you're not.

I take that as a compliment.

There enough "normal", way too much "normal", normal has creeped into art
again, normal has creeped back into music, normal is the norm and it sells
and we have crept back into an age of selling.

Where are the Warhols, the Zappas, the Peter Max'? Where are the Wagners,
the new Doonesburies, the Monte Pythons?

What happened to outside-the-box, to Tennesse Williams, to ee cummings?
John Lennons, Liberace and Roger Moog?

You look for the joinery in the timber frame because the house is dull. You
look for the finest of details because every Promenade is about the same.
You're bored and have recreated, as best you can, interest in modern ships
by visual dissection of minutia.

In article ,
says...


Get this ... no forms had to be filled out at the pier. In fact we filled out
no forms the entire cruise!... I don't know how MSC gets away with it when
every other cruise line makes a very big deal about all these forms that MUST
be filled out.


The forms are for the marketing people. They are only "required" because the
cruise lines chooses to require them.

Europeans are less driven by marketing -- you bought a ticket; they're happy.

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"Chrissy Cruiser" wrote in message
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Ernie, those forms we have to fill out. What info on them is critical?

Good question. I honestly have no idea. I would think they need your
passport information, home address and phone number. At MSC the only thing
they ever did was swipe your passport. At no time were you required to give
your address or phone number. I found that very interesting.

I figure either MSC is doing something wrong, or as someone else mentioned,
all the other cruise lines are using the Homeland Security Act as an excuse
to gather personal information for marketing purposes. I don't see how MSC
could be exempt from providing the same required information that every
other line must provide, so it makes me think that all these other lines are
collecting more info then they need.

Ernie

On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 22:50:50 GMT, Benjamin Smith wrote:

Where are the Warhols, the Zappas, the Peter Max'? Where are the Wagners,
the new Doonesburies, the Monte Pythons?

What happened to outside-the-box, to Tennesse Williams, to ee cummings?
John Lennons, Liberace and Roger Moog?

They're out there--you just have to look for them with more effort; this
being the age of conservative-Christian-religious paranoria-jingoist-scared
of any reference to anything outside the mainstream-insular-exclusive
America.