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Skip:
They already do stop at Cuba, the Sundream comes to mind as one of those that stops there. I know lots of people who have cruised to Cuba or taken a land holiday there. When one visits Vancouver and walks around Canada Place there are a number of Cuban Cigar Stores. Cuban trade is very much alive on this side of the border. Phil Seacruise skip lynch wrote: should cruise ships be able to dock in cuba??? would you go???? -- Seacruise http://www.seacruisechat.com Canal Cam Schedule http://www.seacruisechat.com/panamacanal/ Cruise Review Archive http://www.seacruisereviews.com English you say? 1) Upon seeing the tear in the painting I shed a tear. 2) To help the planting, the farmer taught his sow to sow. |
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No & no. Why on earth would anyone want to go to Cuba in the first
place? All one needs to do is go to Miami & Miami Beach. Here you will find the very best the Cuban people have to offer. And the very worst. We no longer live in South Florida as we had great difficulty with everyday life due to not speaking the local language. Moved to Tampa 18 years ago. ~ DORY ~ |
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Exactly. No Americasn tourist can go to Cuba unless he wants to engage in a fast :-) . . . or unless he goes with a chaperoned group sponsored by a country such as Canada. The ship Valtur Prima (the former STOCKHOLM of ANDRIA DORIA sinking fame) was doing trips to Cuba from Jamaica for American tourists for years. There have also been escorted weekends from Cancun to Havana for years, as well. Where there's a will there's a way. Karen Juliana L Holm wrote: Yes, but a cruise means paying port taxes, those port taxes to Cuba would, by definition violate the Treasury department restriciton. Julie CupCaked wrote: Just as a point of clarification, Americans are not prohibited (by the State Department) from going to Cuba, they are just not allowed to spend money in Cuba, a Treasury Dept. restriction. Juliana L Holm wrote: They would not be able to leave from American Ports. So you'd have to have cruises embarking from Cancun or Cozumel, or other ports in the Caribbean to do so. Julie Kevin Stock wrote: Since most cruise ships aren't American flagged there probably isn't a reason that they can't go to Cuba, is there? "Rich Cacace" richcacace-REMOVE TO wrote in message news As much as I wouldn't like to see Fidel Castro get any money out of the port fees & think the people would benefit more from the cruise ships stopping there. The average Cuban citizen doesn't get much from their "government" & at least the tourists would help generate some sort of an economic boost. "skip lynch" wrote in message ... should cruise ships be able to dock in cuba??? would you go???? __ /7__/7__/7__ \::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.cupcaked.com/reviews (...and leave off the "potatoes" to e-mail) __ /7__/7__/7__ \::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.cupcaked.com/reviews (...and leave off the "potatoes" to e-mail) |
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"Jim" wrote:
Yes and yes. Unfortunately there is a very large and politically powerful group of Cubans that do not want American citizens to be able to do this so until the politicians finally tell these clowns to take a hike don;t look for it to happen. It certainly will not happen during an election year. Exactly! It's Miami that's keeping Cuba under US sanctions, and no one else. Karen __ /7__/7__/7__ \::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.cupcaked.com/reviews (...and leave off the "potatoes" to e-mail) |
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"Major" wrote in message ... (Major) wrote: Would you (with a time machine) go on a tour of Siberian Gulags, Nazi death camps, or Cambodian killing fields, if that would provide hefty "port fees" and other profits for the governments that are committing the acts of evil? To be fair, I should have asked if during these eras you would tour Soviet museums, Berlin nightclubs, and Angkor Wat, if it would enrich the Communist tyrants. Add to that, that the biggest prop to Castro's government is the LEGAL (and also under-the-table) remittances by the exiles who live in the United States - those millions of American dollars are what keeps the world going around, but without contact from the outside world. With the travel ban lifted and more tourism, contact with 'free people' would increase and chances of the old fart being displaced, or at least his replacement being challenged after he eventually dies, will increase. The embargo has had over forty years to fail, why not try something different?? Chris |
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"CupCaked" wrote in message ... Exactly. No Americasn tourist can go to Cuba unless he wants to engage in a fast :-) . . . or unless he goes with a chaperoned group sponsored by a country such as Canada. The ship Valtur Prima (the former STOCKHOLM of ANDRIA DORIA sinking fame) was doing trips to Cuba from Jamaica for American tourists for years. There have also been escorted weekends from Cancun to Havana for years, as well. Where there's a will there's a way. Karen Those people that sail on private boats to Cuba get a stamp from the government stating that the cigars, rum, etc that they have, plus all food and drink, were 'gifts' of the Cuban government and no money changed hands. You rather expect Rick to tell you to go see the fat man to obtain the papers.... Chris |
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"Dory & Stan" wrote in message ... No & no. Why on earth would anyone want to go to Cuba in the first place? All one needs to do is go to Miami & Miami Beach. Here you will find the very best the Cuban people have to offer. And the very worst. We no longer live in South Florida as we had great difficulty with everyday life due to not speaking the local language. Moved to Tampa 18 years ago. ~ DORY ~ Nah, the Cuban people in Cuba would feel an obligation to be nice to you, and would most likely make an effort to speak English if you came into their shops. They might even have signs printed in English! vbg Chris |
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"Major" wrote in message ... "Jean O'Boyle" wrote: It's ironic~US dollars still make their way to Cuba by the very same grouup that does not want us trading with Cuba. There is a difference between sending money to the oppressed versus to the oppressor. As if the money to the 'oppressed' isn't propping up the economy? Compared to Haiti or Dom Rep, there are very few 'oppressed people in Cuba. And since only those with relatives in the US get to receive money, that support the system of alien smuggling, to which Florida and the federal government turn a blind eye. So, again an irony, Cuba is listed as a nation that supports terrorists, yet any Cuban who makes it to US shores, even if they attack and assault border patrol officers on the way here, gets to stay. Cogitate on that one. Chris |
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It depends on the traveller. If you are on a "licensed" trip to Cuba you can
certainly spend money there. Several faculty from our university were there this past year for a licensed conference. They spent money there. Read this for further info: http://travel.state.gov/cuba.html On 9/16/03 10:48 AM, in article , "CupCaked" wrote: Just as a point of clarification, Americans are not prohibited (by the State Department) from going to Cuba, they are just not allowed to spend money in Cuba, a Treasury Dept. restriction. |
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