London metro fees skyrocket

Visitors will have to learn which is the right "card" to buy.
So along with the hotel rates, public transportation have
gone sky high.

Come to France, cheaper and one eats better.

EarL


TUBE FARES SET TO RISE BY A THIRD

FARES on the Tube and London buses are set to rise by up to 33 per cent next
year - making them the most expensive in the world.

A single Tube fare will cost £3 instead of £2 and a bus journey will rise
from £1.20 to £1.50.

But Tube fares on pre-paid Oyster cards will fall from £1.70 to £1.50, half
the price of a single, to encourage people to use the cards.

Announcing the increases, which take effect in January, London mayor Ken
Livingstone said: "Too many people are paying cash, causing long queues.

"Our aim is to speed up the whole system."

He conceded the rises will make London fares the world's most costly.

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Berlin's metro is the next most expensive at the equivalent of £1.43 for a
single but others in Europe and America are all under £1.

Critics say the price hikes will force people off public transport and hit
tourists without an Oyster card.

"Earl Evleth" wrote in message
...
Visitors will have to learn which is the right "card" to buy.
So along with the hotel rates, public transportation have
gone sky high.

Come to France, cheaper and one eats better.

EarL


TUBE FARES SET TO RISE BY A THIRD

FARES on the Tube and London buses are set to rise by up to 33 per cent
next
year - making them the most expensive in the world.

A single Tube fare will cost £3 instead of £2 and a bus journey will rise
from £1.20 to £1.50.

But Tube fares on pre-paid Oyster cards will fall from £1.70 to £1.50,
half
the price of a single, to encourage people to use the cards.



Most tourists will continue buying the one day travelcard
which gives unlimited travel on tube and bus services
for £6 per day. Those who have other requirements can buy
an Oyster card at any tube station and these will be CHEAPER

Scaremongering like this just plain silly.

Keith



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"Keith W" writes:

Most tourists will continue buying the one day travelcard
which gives unlimited travel on tube and bus services
for £6 per day.

It's still shockingly spendy though, that. I don't know about Paris
(Metro-threads tend to turn into Mixifests before any information can
leak out) but Berlin and Madrid are far far better value.

Those who have other requirements can buy an Oyster card at any tube
station and these will be CHEAPER

I think I need an Oystercard, for sure.

Scaremongering like this just plain silly.

It's attention grabbing. The article just says "Ken says 'get an
oystercard or get shafted.'"

Des

"Des Small" wrote in message
...
"Keith W" writes:

Most tourists will continue buying the one day travelcard
which gives unlimited travel on tube and bus services
for £6 per day.

It's still shockingly spendy though, that. I don't know about Paris
(Metro-threads tend to turn into Mixifests before any information can
leak out) but Berlin and Madrid are far far better value.


The basic Paris Metro ticket costs Euro 1.4 or you can buy
10 for Euro 10.50

A zone 1-2 Mobilis (one day travelcard) is Euro 5 IRC

Keith



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On 6/10/05 13:46, in article , "Des
Small" wrote:

Scaremongering like this just plain silly.

It's attention grabbing. The article just says "Ken says 'get an
oystercard or get shafted.'"


Just informing. When we visited London several time we just bought a 10
ticket carnet (whatever the name is), I think it was for 12 or 14 pounds
but I forget. But it allowed us both to travel, using one ticket each.
We are used to walking a lot so walked most places in Central London.

The reason the Paris system is relatively cheap is that it is a "public
service" and about half the RATP operating budget was from taxes.
for instance my French pay slip, which showed the employer's charges
had a fair charge against the employer for supporting the RATP.
Plus my employer had to subsidize my metro pass!

More over, when you turn 65, and your income tax does not exceed
2287 euros a year, you can have a Carte émeraude

http://www.paris.fr/portail/Solidari...3&document_typ
e_id=5&document_id=7967&portlet_id=10163

This gives the holder the right to travel free on the metro and bus system.
So when you travel in Paris and see the old folks flashing their cards
on the bus and metro system you know that they pay low income taxes.

Moreover "avec la carte Émeraude, vous pourrez aussi bénéficier d' une carte
d'accès aux restaurants Paris Émeraude de la capitale." These are low
price restaurants, I don't know the fees charged but old people can eat
lunch with others of the same age.

This is socialism at work. We have yet to be Thatcherized.

Tourists do not qualify but if you decide to come to France and retire
and pay your taxes here, you might qualify.

Earl

Scaremongering like this just plain silly.

It's attention grabbing. The article just says "Ken says 'get an
oystercard or get shafted.'"

Yet another method of big brother tracking you wherever you go.

On Thu, 06 Oct 2005 14:52:58 +0200, Earl Evleth
wrote:

More over, when you turn 65, and your income tax does not exceed
2287 euros a year, you can have a Carte émeraude

When you turn 60 in the UK and are resident in London, then tube and
bus travel is free with a freedom pass after 9am (or 9:30 on the
national rail services) There's no maximum income, even billionaires
get it.

This is socialism at work. We have yet to be Thatcherized.

Yet it's worse than the equivalent in London :-)

Jim.

....If you wish to look at life from a paranoid perspective.

Tim K

"Miss L. Toe" wrote in message
news.net...
Scaremongering like this just plain silly.

It's attention grabbing. The article just says "Ken says 'get an
oystercard or get shafted.'"

Yet another method of big brother tracking you wherever you go.

Following up to Earl Evleth

Come to France, cheaper and one eats better.

Ken is reducing the price of the oystercard and increasing
individual fares. To encourage people to not use cash.

You can eat well in London too, unless you insist on Mexican.
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"Earl Evleth" wrote in message
...
Visitors will have to learn which is the right "card" to buy.
So along with the hotel rates, public transportation have
gone sky high.

Come to France, cheaper and one eats better.

EarL


TUBE FARES SET TO RISE BY A THIRD

FARES on the Tube and London buses are set to rise by up to 33 per cent
next
year - making them the most expensive in the world.

A single Tube fare will cost £3 instead of £2 and a bus journey will rise
from £1.20 to £1.50.

But Tube fares on pre-paid Oyster cards will fall from £1.70 to £1.50, half
the price of a single, to encourage people to use the cards.



Most tourists will continue buying the one day travelcard
which gives unlimited travel on tube and bus services
for £6 per day.

Uh? £6 a day? Last time I bought one, it was at £4 or something, and it
was in 2002!

Inflation, inflation...

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