TV Show "Airline"

(Menachem Mavet) wrote in message . com...
As long as the cutoff criteria for defining "very fat" is objective
and presented to the passengers in advance of booking, I say all power
to them! (and I'm speaking as someone who might need to buy 2 seats
if I don't keep to my current diet and exercise plan. I'm a bit
overweight now, but I'm doing what I can to keep from moving to the
"obses" category.)

Should such criteria be based primarily on weight or girth?

It's a girth thing -- basically whether you can fit into one seat
comfortably and don't need a seatbelt extender. The customer shown was
deemed to be a 'Customer of Size' (don't you just love that euphemism)
and although he was large he really didn't seem that enormous. I'm
guessing that the cutoff is around a 45-50" waist measurement; in
other words, if you're trying not to move to 'obese' you're free and
clear by a long way. (I'm technically obese and I wear 36" pants...)

Regardless, this show is boring already, I watched last week and this week
and now I give up, they aren't nearly as interesting as the British version,
and Southwest isn't going through anything that the rest of the airlines
don't go through every day as well.


"Alistair Bell" wrote in message
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(Menachem Mavet) wrote in message
. com...
As long as the cutoff criteria for defining "very fat" is objective
and presented to the passengers in advance of booking, I say all power
to them! (and I'm speaking as someone who might need to buy 2 seats
if I don't keep to my current diet and exercise plan. I'm a bit
overweight now, but I'm doing what I can to keep from moving to the
"obses" category.)

Should such criteria be based primarily on weight or girth?

It's a girth thing -- basically whether you can fit into one seat
comfortably and don't need a seatbelt extender. The customer shown was
deemed to be a 'Customer of Size' (don't you just love that euphemism)
and although he was large he really didn't seem that enormous. I'm
guessing that the cutoff is around a 45-50" waist measurement; in
other words, if you're trying not to move to 'obese' you're free and
clear by a long way. (I'm technically obese and I wear 36" pants...)

None wrote:

Regardless, this show is boring already, I watched last week and this week
and now I give up, they aren't nearly as interesting as the British version,
and Southwest isn't going through anything that the rest of the airlines
don't go through every day as well.


I disagree. WN is a different airline and certain practices are unique
to WN. And..........on WN, they seem to work.

"Alistair Bell" wrote in message
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It's a girth thing -- basically whether you can fit into one seat
comfortably and don't need a seatbelt extender. The customer shown was
deemed to be a 'Customer of Size' (don't you just love that euphemism)
and although he was large he really didn't seem that enormous. I'm
guessing that the cutoff is around a 45-50" waist measurement; in
other words, if you're trying not to move to 'obese' you're free and
clear by a long way. (I'm technically obese and I wear 36" pants...)

I would think the hips are more of an issue than the waist. Also, what does
"fit comfortably" mean?
Are Southwest seats smaller than say Alaska Air or United? (Actually, United
seats are often wider than Alaska by an inch or so. I'm curious how wide
Southwest seats are.)
I wonder if it makes a difference if the customer appears in fashionable
clothes designed to slim one's profile

Traveler

"mrraveltay" wrote in message
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None wrote:

Regardless, this show is boring already, I watched last week and this
week
and now I give up, they aren't nearly as interesting as the British
version,
and Southwest isn't going through anything that the rest of the airlines
don't go through every day as well.


I disagree. WN is a different airline and certain practices are unique
to WN. And..........on WN, they seem to work.

Such as???????? All airlines are subject to the same rules. I saw
Southwest doing nothing differently. The show does nothing but show some
employees doing things that they wouldn't normally do if there weren't a
camera around, such as give a guy a set of clothes to wear? Follow
passengers to a departing international terminal to see if they make their
flight? Uh uh, Southwest isnt' international and could give a rat's ass if
pax make it to their next flight, especially on a totally different carrier.

None wrote:

Such as???????? All airlines are subject to the same rules. I saw
Southwest doing nothing differently. The show does nothing but show some
employees doing things that they wouldn't normally do if there weren't a
camera around, such as give a guy a set of clothes to wear? Follow
passengers to a departing international terminal to see if they make their
flight? Uh uh, Southwest isnt' international and could give a rat's ass if
pax make it to their next flight, especially on a totally different carrier.


Domestic US airlines are subject to the same governmental regulations,
but how does that make them all alike? Are you saying you have seen
nothing different when flying WN than you see when flying another US
carrier?

Traveler muttered....


I wonder if it makes a difference if the customer appears in
fashionable clothes designed to slim one's profile


On the one occasion I saw WN staff making the 2 ticket call, the procedure
apparently involves a prelim decision by an agent and confirmation by a
Superviser, certainly as you suggest with the possibility of
"subjectivity", but a Hell of a lot less than I've come to expect from an
UA agent with 75 folks in line after an equipment change. Like the guy in
the TV epidode, this o was one "Faa-uut Lady" (and at 6'2"/240-250
depending on the proximity to dinner hour, I'm attuned to seat size, since
my shoulders are wider than any economy seatback, leaving me with constant
beverage cart bruises on my shoulders, since I rotate Port & Starboard
Aisle seating to even out "cart strikes").

Traveling regularly on other airlines, but less frequently on WN, it only
takes a few moments to tumble to the fact that the "Corporate Culture" at
WN is quite different that what one becomes used to among the "domestics"
(just as a couple of decades back, British Caledonian seemed quite
different from BA, and the "pre-modern era" Delta staffers came with an air
of their own).

The simplest analysis comes from an acquaintace who claims that "They
simply don't take themselves too seriously."

TMO