French Socialist & Climatologist Allegre's second thoughts about manmade global warming

In article , Deeply Filled
Mortician wrote:

Let is be knownst that on Mon, 05 Mar 2007 09:34:35 -0800, Go Fig
writted:

In article , Earl Evleth
wrote:

On 5/03/07 14:50, in article
, "Earl Evleth"
wrote:

forged

here is the truth

Warmest winter ever

1 March 2007

BRUSSELS - An average temperature of 6.6 degrees made the 2006-2007 winter
the warmest ever,


Ever ? That is just a lie.

Ever on record, but wouldn't that be assumed?


Certainly not when it comes to science of global warming... but when
the mantra is "the debate is over" "science" has long left the
equation.

UK Ch4 will have an offering this Thursday on the subject.

jay
Tue Mar 06, 2007

On 6/03/07 9:00, in article , "Go Fig"
wrote:

Certainly not when it comes to science of global warming

Science? That is an area which you have previously shown
that you can not handle. Along with the Pig.

"Go Fig" wrote in message
...
In article , Earl Evleth
wrote:

On 5/03/07 14:50, in article
, "Earl Evleth"
wrote:

forged

here is the truth

Warmest winter ever

1 March 2007

BRUSSELS - An average temperature of 6.6 degrees made the 2006-2007 winter
the warmest ever,


Ever ? That is just a lie.


Big deal!! Let me know when he happens to tell the truth. Now
that would be Headline News.


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jay
Mon Mar 05, 2007

Planet Visitor II wrote:

"Go Fig" wrote in message
...

In article , Earl Evleth
wrote:

On 5/03/07 14:50, in article
, "Earl Evleth"
wrote:

forged

here is the truth

Warmest winter ever

1 March 2007

BRUSSELS - An average temperature of 6.6 degrees made the 2006-2007
winter
the warmest ever,



Ever ? That is just a lie.

Since humans have been alive.

--Jeff

--
It is difficult to get a man to
understand something when his job
depends on not understanding it.
--Upton Sinclair

On Mar 5, 9:50 am, "Earl Evleth" wrote:
gosh algore must be wrong!

LAWRENCE SOLOMON, Financial Post
Published: Friday, March 02, 2007

Claude Allegre, one of France's leading socialists and among her most
celebrated scientists, was among the first to sound the alarm about
the dangers of global warming.

"By burning fossil fuels, man increased the concentration of carbon
dioxide in the atmosphere which, for example, has raised the global
mean temperature by half a degree in the last century," Dr. Allegre, a
renowned geochemist, wrote 20 years ago in Cles pour la geologie.."
Fifteen years ago, Dr. Allegre was among the 1500 prominent scientists
who signed "World Scientists' Warning to Humanity," a highly
publicized letter stressing that global warming's "potential risks are
very great" and demanding a new caring ethic that recognizes the
globe's fragility in order to stave off "spirals of environmental
decline, poverty, and unrest, leading to social, economic and
environmental collapse."

In the 1980s and early 1990s, when concern about global warming was in
its infancy, little was known about the mechanics of how it could
occur, or the consequences that could befall us. Since then,
governments throughout the western world and bodies such as the United
Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change have commissioned
billions of dollars worth of research by thousands of scientists. With
a wealth of data now in, Dr. Allegre has recanted his views. To his
surprise, the many climate models and studies failed dismally in
establishing a man-made cause of catastrophic global warming.
Meanwhile, increasing evidence indicates that most of the warming
comes of natural phenomena. Dr. Allegre now sees global warming as
over-hyped and an environmental concern of second rank.

His break with what he now sees as environmental cant on climate
change came in September, in an article entitled "The Snows of
Kilimanjaro" in l' Express, the French weekly. His article cited
evidence that Antarctica is gaining ice and that Kilimanjaro's
retreating snow caps, among other global-warming concerns, come from
natural causes. "The cause of this climate change is unknown," he
states matter of factly. There is no basis for saying, as most do,
that the "science is settled."

Dr. Allegre's skepticism is noteworthy in several respects. For one,
he is an exalted member of France's political establishment, a friend
of former Socialist president Lionel Jospin, and, from 1997 to 2000,
his minister of education, research and technology, charged with
improving the quality of government research through closer co-
operation with France's educational institutions. For another, Dr.
Allegre has the highest environmental credentials. The author of early
environmental books, he fought successful battles to protect the ozone
layer from CFCs and public health from lead pollution. His break with
scientific dogma over global warming came at a personal cost:
Colleagues in both the governmental and environmental spheres were
aghast that he could publicly question the science behind climate
change.

But Dr. Allegre had allegiances to more than his socialist and
environmental colleagues. He is, above all, a scientist of the first
order, the architect of isotope geodynamics, which showed that the
atmosphere was primarily formed early in the history of the Earth, and
the geochemical modeller of the early solar system. Because of his
path-breaking cosmochemical research, NASA asked Dr. Allegre to
participate in the Apollo lunar program, where he helped determine the
age of the Moon. Matching his scientific accomplishments in the cosmos
are his accomplishments at home: Dr. Allegre is perhaps best known for
his research on the structural and geochemical evolution of the
Earth's crust and the creation of its mountains, explaining both the
title of his article in l' Express and his revulsion at the nihilistic
nature of the climate research debate.

Calling the arguments of those who see catastrophe in climate change
"simplistic and obscuring the true dangers," Dr. Allegre especially
despairs at "the greenhouse-gas fanatics whose proclamations consist
in denouncing man's role on the climate without doing anything about
it except organizing conferences and preparing protocols that become
dead letters." The world would be better off, Dr. Allegre believes, if
these "denouncers" became less political and more practical, by
proposing practical solutions to head off the dangers they see, such
as developing technologies to sequester C02. His dream, he says, is to
see "ecology become the engine of economic development and not an
artificial obstacle that creates fear."

CV OF A DENIER:

Claude Allegre received a Ph D in physics in 1962 from the University
of Paris. He became the director of the geochemistry and
cosmochemistry program at the French National Scientific Research
Centre in 1967 and in 1971, he was appointed director of the
University of Paris's Department of Earth Sciences. In 1976, he became
director of the Paris Institut de Physique du Globe. He is an author
of more than 100 scientific articles, many of them seminal studies on
the evolution of the Earth using isotopic evidence, and 11 books. He
is a member of the U.S. National Academy of Sciences and the French
Academy of Science.

Use "OT:" in subjects for this crap on non-political groups.

Jeffrey Turner wrote:
Planet Visitor II wrote:

"Go Fig" wrote in message
...

In article , Earl Evleth
wrote:

On 5/03/07 14:50, in article
, "Earl Evleth"
wrote:

forged

here is the truth

Warmest winter ever

1 March 2007

BRUSSELS - An average temperature of 6.6 degrees made the 2006-2007
winter
the warmest ever,



Ever ? That is just a lie.

Since humans have been alive.

--Jeff

Who you gonna trust on this global warming topic? The National Academy
of Science, composed of the greatest scientists in the US, or George W
Bush, who thinks that the notion humans are involved is just a rumor?

He won't, don't worry

a écrit dans le message de news:
...
On Mar 5, 9:50 am, "Earl Evleth" wrote:
gosh algore must be wrong!

LAWRENCE SOLOMON, Financial Post
Published: Friday, March 02, 2007

Claude Allegre, one of France's leading socialists and among her most
celebrated scientists, was among the first to sound the alarm about
the dangers of global warming.

"By burning fossil fuels, man increased the concentration of carbon
dioxide in the atmosphere which, for example, has raised the global
mean temperature by half a degree in the last century," Dr. Allegre, a
renowned geochemist, wrote 20 years ago in Cles pour la geologie.."
Fifteen years ago, Dr. Allegre was among the 1500 prominent scientists
who signed "World Scientists' Warning to Humanity," a highly
publicized letter stressing that global warming's "potential risks are
very great" and demanding a new caring ethic that recognizes the
globe's fragility in order to stave off "spirals of environmental
decline, poverty, and unrest, leading to social, economic and
environmental collapse."

In the 1980s and early 1990s, when concern about global warming was in
its infancy, little was known about the mechanics of how it could
occur, or the consequences that could befall us. Since then,
governments throughout the western world and bodies such as the United
Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change have commissioned
billions of dollars worth of research by thousands of scientists. With
a wealth of data now in, Dr. Allegre has recanted his views. To his
surprise, the many climate models and studies failed dismally in
establishing a man-made cause of catastrophic global warming.
Meanwhile, increasing evidence indicates that most of the warming
comes of natural phenomena. Dr. Allegre now sees global warming as
over-hyped and an environmental concern of second rank.

His break with what he now sees as environmental cant on climate
change came in September, in an article entitled "The Snows of
Kilimanjaro" in l' Express, the French weekly. His article cited
evidence that Antarctica is gaining ice and that Kilimanjaro's
retreating snow caps, among other global-warming concerns, come from
natural causes. "The cause of this climate change is unknown," he
states matter of factly. There is no basis for saying, as most do,
that the "science is settled."

Dr. Allegre's skepticism is noteworthy in several respects. For one,
he is an exalted member of France's political establishment, a friend
of former Socialist president Lionel Jospin, and, from 1997 to 2000,
his minister of education, research and technology, charged with
improving the quality of government research through closer co-
operation with France's educational institutions. For another, Dr.
Allegre has the highest environmental credentials. The author of early
environmental books, he fought successful battles to protect the ozone
layer from CFCs and public health from lead pollution. His break with
scientific dogma over global warming came at a personal cost:
Colleagues in both the governmental and environmental spheres were
aghast that he could publicly question the science behind climate
change.

But Dr. Allegre had allegiances to more than his socialist and
environmental colleagues. He is, above all, a scientist of the first
order, the architect of isotope geodynamics, which showed that the
atmosphere was primarily formed early in the history of the Earth, and
the geochemical modeller of the early solar system. Because of his
path-breaking cosmochemical research, NASA asked Dr. Allegre to
participate in the Apollo lunar program, where he helped determine the
age of the Moon. Matching his scientific accomplishments in the cosmos
are his accomplishments at home: Dr. Allegre is perhaps best known for
his research on the structural and geochemical evolution of the
Earth's crust and the creation of its mountains, explaining both the
title of his article in l' Express and his revulsion at the nihilistic
nature of the climate research debate.

Calling the arguments of those who see catastrophe in climate change
"simplistic and obscuring the true dangers," Dr. Allegre especially
despairs at "the greenhouse-gas fanatics whose proclamations consist
in denouncing man's role on the climate without doing anything about
it except organizing conferences and preparing protocols that become
dead letters." The world would be better off, Dr. Allegre believes, if
these "denouncers" became less political and more practical, by
proposing practical solutions to head off the dangers they see, such
as developing technologies to sequester C02. His dream, he says, is to
see "ecology become the engine of economic development and not an
artificial obstacle that creates fear."

CV OF A DENIER:

Claude Allegre received a Ph D in physics in 1962 from the University
of Paris. He became the director of the geochemistry and
cosmochemistry program at the French National Scientific Research
Centre in 1967 and in 1971, he was appointed director of the
University of Paris's Department of Earth Sciences. In 1976, he became
director of the Paris Institut de Physique du Globe. He is an author
of more than 100 scientific articles, many of them seminal studies on
the evolution of the Earth using isotopic evidence, and 11 books. He
is a member of the U.S. National Academy of Sciences and the French
Academy of Science.

Use "OT:" in subjects for this crap on non-political groups.