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Old October 9th, 2003, 10:39 AM
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Bram writes:

I only know of people who work hard for their money around here.


Lots of people work hard for their money in Europe. They have to, since
they are paid so poorly. Even then, they don't get rich. In the highly
unlikely event that they manage to overcome all the social obstacles to
actually making lots of money through earning alone (as opposed to being
born into it), the tax people will take it all.

In most of Europe, it is tacitly understood that if you aren't born into
money, you have no right to accumulate it, even by working for it.

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Old October 9th, 2003, 10:39 AM
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Keith Willshaw writes:

A quite similar proportion to that in North America in fact
were there are around 2.1 million HNWI's


That would mean there are about twice as many in the U.S. (where almost
all of them live).

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Old October 9th, 2003, 10:40 AM
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Sjoerd writes:

What is your definition for "rich" and "wealthy"?


Permanently having more money and income than you know what to do with.

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Old October 9th, 2003, 10:40 AM
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Reid© writes:

The way to become rich is to start a business, you can also
become relatively rich by working in the financial sector as an
employee.


True in the U.S., but not in Europe.

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Old October 9th, 2003, 11:14 AM
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Following up to Mxsmanic

In the highly
unlikely event that they manage to overcome all the social obstacles to
actually making lots of money through earning alone (as opposed to being
born into it), the tax people will take it all.

In most of Europe, it is tacitly understood that if you aren't born into
money, you have no right to accumulate it, even by working for it.


you meant to finish "in the 19th Century", did your machine go
down?
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Old October 9th, 2003, 11:14 AM
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Following up to Mxsmanic

The way to become rich is to start a business, you can also
become relatively rich by working in the financial sector as an
employee.


True in the U.S., but not in Europe.


I'm just now looking a cookbook by a man named Gulab Noon, he has
made himself rich by making supermarket curry ready meals in UK.
They have given him an MBE BTW. In the last boom top employees in
the City of London received £1m annual bonuses. Which Europe do
you live in?
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Old October 9th, 2003, 12:00 PM
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Reid© writes:

you meant to finish "in the 19th Century"


No, that is how Europe is _today_.

Europeans like the idea of everyone remaining at his proper station in
life. They even impose the restriction on themselves; they feel
themselves "traitors" of a sort if they become too successful without
having the necessary family ties and old-school buddies, and they work
to sabotage the success of anyone else who steps out of line in this
way.

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Old October 9th, 2003, 12:00 PM
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Reid© writes:

Which Europe do you live in?


The one that still worships royals, and keeps them rich with taxpayer
monies.

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Old October 9th, 2003, 12:10 PM
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On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 01:23:32 +0200, Mxsmanic wrote:

"The number of HNWIs in Europe grew 6% to 2.3 million in 2000 ...
...they account for 32% of the world's HNWIs, ...


A quite similar proportion to that in North America in fact
were there are around 2.1 million HNWI's


That would mean there are about twice as many in the U.S. (where almost
all of them live).

How do you get "about twice as many" ansd "nearly all" from those figures?

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Old October 9th, 2003, 12:39 PM
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Following up to Mxsmanic

you meant to finish "in the 19th Century"


No, that is how Europe is _today_.

Europeans like the idea of everyone remaining at his proper station in
life. They even impose the restriction on themselves; they feel
themselves "traitors" of a sort if they become too successful without
having the necessary family ties and old-school buddies, and they work
to sabotage the success of anyone else who steps out of line in this
way.


this is your personal fantasy, I wont interrupt it.
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