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Old October 13th, 2008, 08:57 PM posted to rec.travel.air
Micky
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Default Demand that Obama release his college records! Where is the media?

Why is it important to see Obama's college records? Because the media
has created fantasies around Obama on every issue. You should start
dispelling them with the easiest one, i.e. the fantasy of Obama's
"academic degrees and honors".

Obama has been fighting desperately to block all access to his college
records. Even his "academic paper" at Columbia mysteriously
disappeared. The media just swallowed the official Obama's "academic
degrees and honors" without checking his actual grades, his scores on
standardized tests, his academic writings if any, etc. All the
decisions to admit Obama to colleges, to give him "academic degrees
and honors" were made by a few unknown individuals. Read about the
racial turmoil at one college where he got his "academic honors". The
race tensions seem to follow Obama wherever he goes.

If Obama's college records fail to meet the requirements for
legitimate academic degrees and honors then Obama will be declared an
academic fraud. Maybe then the media will start vetting Obama on other
issues. Then we will be able to address the biggest fantasies like
Obama's "ability to solve" the financial crisis which requires making
executive decisions. Obama never made a single real executive decision
in his life! How will Obama be able to attract quality people if he
has a long history of attracting and being attracted to the worst
kind? Any Hollywood actor can read a teleprompter and memorize talking
points written by secret handlers.

If Obama gets elected and turns the United States into a war-torn
country like Kenya then his college records will mysteriously leak,
but then it could be too late.

I am asking everybody to request at least one major news network to
make it an election issue. Ask others to do the same. Since Obama has
built his political career around his "academic degrees and honors",
all his college records (complete set of grades, scores on
standardized tests, etc) must be released. Keep in mind that Obama's
supporters have saturated media outlets and internet bandwidth for the
last two years with stories of Obama's "academic degrees and honors".
Now they viciously attack those who want to see Obama's grades and
scores on standardized tests.

Obama's "academic degrees and honors" before checking his grades and
his scores on standardized tests are like "good standing" of Enron or
Fannie Mae before they collapsed. You would be surprised what racial
accusations, threats, boycotts can do to academic integrity at US
colleges!



Some websites to submit your requests:
http://my.barackobama.com/page/s/contact2
http://abcnews.go.com/Site/page?id=3068843
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6872152/
http://www.cnn.com/feedback/
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,77538,00.html
http://www.cbsnews.com/



Some websites to read about Obama's "academic career":
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/a...-mythical.html
http://www.investors.com/editorial/e...07579834298611
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/...y_fathe_1.html
http://www.nysun.com/new-york/obamas...mystery/85015/
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satelli...cle%2FShowFull
http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?f...w&pageId=74877
http://reason.com/news/show/128461.html

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Old October 14th, 2008, 01:05 AM posted to rec.travel.air
mrtravel[_2_]
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Default Demand that Obama release his college records! Where is the media?

Micky wrote:
Why is it important to see Obama's college records? Because the media
has created fantasies around Obama on every issue. You should start
dispelling them with the easiest one, i.e. the fantasy of Obama's
"academic degrees and honors".


If you try hard enough, you could actually access published reports of
his honors. After all, these things are published by educational
institution on a regular basis. If he didn't do well academically, you
would have heard it by now from the McCain people.

Speaking of academics, consider our current "leader".
His educational background was well known and he still got
elected............ TWICE
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Old October 15th, 2008, 01:27 AM posted to rec.travel.air
Brian[_1_]
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Default Demand that Obama release his college records! Where is the media?

On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 17:05:45 -0700, mrtravel wrote:


If you try hard enough, you could actually access published reports of
his honors. After all, these things are published by educational
institution on a regular basis. If he didn't do well academically, you
would have heard it by now from the McCain people.

Speaking of academics, consider our current "leader".
His educational background was well known and he still got
elected............ TWICE


Where can I find his thesis?

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Old October 15th, 2008, 08:54 AM posted to rec.travel.air
mrtravel[_2_]
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Default Demand that Obama release his college records! Where is the media?

Brian wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 17:05:45 -0700, mrtravel wrote:



If you try hard enough, you could actually access published reports of
his honors. After all, these things are published by educational
institution on a regular basis. If he didn't do well academically, you
would have heard it by now from the McCain people.

Speaking of academics, consider our current "leader".
His educational background was well known and he still got
elected............ TWICE



Where can I find his thesis?


Why? Do you not believe he lied about his academic achievements?

He was president of the Harvard Law Review. Do you think this is
something that would be possible for someone with George Bush's academic
record? We know McCain finished near the bottom of his class at the
USNA. I believe it was next to last. It would be a bit difficult to
beat that, wouldn't it? Do you believe Obama isn't smarter than McCain
or Bush?


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Old October 16th, 2008, 02:54 AM posted to rec.travel.air
Brian[_1_]
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Default Demand that Obama release his college records! Where is the media?

On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 00:54:24 -0700, mrtravel wrote:


Why? Do you not believe he lied about his academic achievements?

He was president of the Harvard Law Review. Do you think this is
something that would be possible for someone with George Bush's academic
record? We know McCain finished near the bottom of his class at the
USNA. I believe it was next to last. It would be a bit difficult to
beat that, wouldn't it? Do you believe Obama isn't smarter than McCain
or Bush?


I didn't realize Bush was running this year. And did you realize
Bush's grades were a little higher than Gore's?

And for Obama. Smart in what way? He's very clever and has worked his
way to the top by actually having very little experience and taking
few actual positions.

I'd like to know about his thesis because I'd like to know about his
views that might be expressed in it. Why is he hiding it?

What articles did he write for the Law Review?

McCain has made little secret of his class standing at the Naval
Academy which was a little above what you said but not much. He has
also spoken about why his grades weren't higher.

And the Naval Academy, unlike Harvard and many other schools, doesn't
have grade inflation and does flunk people out.

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Old October 16th, 2008, 05:34 AM posted to rec.travel.air
mrtravel[_2_]
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Default Demand that Obama release his college records! Where is the media?

Brian wrote:

And the Naval Academy, unlike Harvard and many other schools, doesn't
have grade inflation and does flunk people out.


I see. it's impossible to flunk out of Harvard.
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Old October 16th, 2008, 07:08 PM posted to rec.travel.air
Brian[_1_]
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Default Demand that Obama release his college records! Where is the media?

On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 21:34:59 -0700, mrtravel wrote:


I see. it's impossible to flunk out of Harvard.


Not impossible but much more difficult. Supposedly it's changed a
little but it used to be that more than 90% of the grades at Harvard
were A's. That was undergrad but I doubt if law school was much
different.

We have a friend who used to teach at Yale. He had to justify any C
grades given to students.

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Old October 16th, 2008, 09:09 PM posted to rec.travel.air
mrtravel[_2_]
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Default Demand that Obama release his college records! Where is the media?

Brian wrote:
On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 21:34:59 -0700, mrtravel wrote:



I see. it's impossible to flunk out of Harvard.



Not impossible but much more difficult. Supposedly it's changed a
little but it used to be that more than 90% of the grades at Harvard
were A's. That was undergrad but I doubt if law school was much
different.


First you said "impossible" and now you back down?
Over 90 percent? I doubt it. I would have to see evidence of that.

You mentioned Yale. The class of 2008 was accepted at a rate of 9.9
percent of applicants. Additionally, a higher percentage of more
intelligent people would apply to Yale. Do you think most people, who
had successful academic careers before going to Yale would tend to be
drop outs? Additionally, I suspect this is also true of Harvard.
Also, the retention rates are higher now than they were when Obama
attended. The schools are more selective now.


So, you have doubts that Obama is intelligent?
Compare Obama with Bush. Can you not tell there is a difference in
intelligence? It's a bit harder with McCain, but Obama still appears to
be brighter.

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Old October 16th, 2008, 09:10 PM posted to rec.travel.air
mrtravel[_2_]
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Default Demand that Obama release his college records! Where is the media?

Brian wrote:
On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 21:34:59 -0700, mrtravel wrote:



I see. it's impossible to flunk out of Harvard.



Not impossible but much more difficult. Supposedly it's changed a
little but it used to be that more than 90% of the grades at Harvard
were A's. That was undergrad but I doubt if law school was much
different.


First you said "impossible" and now you back down?
Over 90 percent? I doubt it. I would have to see evidence of that.

You mentioned Yale. The class of 2008 was accepted at a rate of 9.9
percent of applicants. Additionally, a higher percentage of more
intelligent people would apply to Yale. Do you think most people, who
had successful academic careers before going to Yale would tend to be
drop outs? Additionally, I suspect this is also true of Harvard.
Also, the retention rates are higher now than they were when Obama
attended. The schools are more selective now.


So, you have doubts that Obama is intelligent?
Compare Obama with Bush. Can you not tell there is a difference in
intelligence? It's a bit harder with McCain, but Obama still appears to
be brighter.

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Old October 17th, 2008, 01:56 AM posted to rec.travel.air
Brian[_1_]
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Default Demand that Obama release his college records! Where is the media?

On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 13:10:08 -0700, mrtravel wrote:


First you said "impossible" and now you back down?
Over 90 percent? I doubt it. I would have to see evidence of that.


I meant to give the impression of very difficult to flunk out rather
than absolutely impossible. Anything is possible.

And I'm not going to go back and research articles from years ago for
you.

You mentioned Yale. The class of 2008 was accepted at a rate of 9.9
percent of applicants. Additionally, a higher percentage of more
intelligent people would apply to Yale. Do you think most people, who
had successful academic careers before going to Yale would tend to be
drop outs? Additionally, I suspect this is also true of Harvard.
Also, the retention rates are higher now than they were when Obama
attended. The schools are more selective now.


They were pretty selective back then also. It isn't particularly easy
to get into the service academies either and many who might otherwise
be good candidates choose not to apply because o the obligations
involved. At Ivy League schools, the grounds for separation are far
different than at service academies. I doubt if students at
non-military schools would be subject to expulsion for having sex in
the dorms, for example.


So, you have doubts that Obama is intelligent?
Compare Obama with Bush. Can you not tell there is a difference in
intelligence? It's a bit harder with McCain, but Obama still appears to
be brighter.


I think Obama is intelligent although I think his intelligence may in
different areas than McCain's. However, I'm not sure how intelligent
Obama is and that is a problem with affirmative action. How do we know
if he would have gotten in on his own or not?

However, what I said was that I wanted to see his college thesis. You
turned it into a discussion of what his intelligence level is. That
wasn't why I wanted to know about it.

I would, however, be curious how he became editor of the Law Review
without ever writing an article for it. That is what I have read. If
that information can be shown incorrect, I'll stand corrected although
when I have said it previously, nobody else has been able to do so.



 




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