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AM radio reception inside passenger planes?
I have no trouble receiving FM radio broadcasts on a small am/fm radio I sometimes listen to while onboard commercial jet airliners (flying at cruise altitude), but I never seem to be able to pick up AM radio stations. It's just static across the AM band. Any explanation for this? |
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Any explanation for this?
FM radio generally operates at longer range than AM radio, however it's limited to line-of-sight. However, when you're 40,000 feet up you can "see" a lot of transmitters hence the FM signals. Cheers, Geoff Glave Vancouver, Canada |
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Any explanation for this?
FM radio generally operates at longer range than AM radio, however it's limited to line-of-sight. However, when you're 40,000 feet up you can "see" a lot of transmitters hence the FM signals. Cheers, Geoff Glave Vancouver, Canada |
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Any explanation for this?
FM radio generally operates at longer range than AM radio, however it's limited to line-of-sight. However, when you're 40,000 feet up you can "see" a lot of transmitters hence the FM signals. Cheers, Geoff Glave Vancouver, Canada |
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In message HxHud.9448$eb3.8331@clgrps13, Geoff Glave
writes Any explanation for this? FM radio generally operates at longer range than AM radio, however it's limited to line-of-sight. However, when you're 40,000 feet up you can "see" a lot of transmitters hence the FM signals. Cheers, Geoff Glave Vancouver, Canada The window holes are much too small to let the much longer wavelengths of the 'AM' signals through. The body of the plane is a very effective screen. The 'FM' signals can squeeze in, but it helps if you have a window seat. I've also listened to SW in the middle of the Atlantic. Flying from the UK to Florida, on the other side of the Atlantic the first FM stations you hear are usually speaking French (from Quebec) It's quite alarming! Ian. -- |
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In message HxHud.9448$eb3.8331@clgrps13, Geoff Glave
writes Any explanation for this? FM radio generally operates at longer range than AM radio, however it's limited to line-of-sight. However, when you're 40,000 feet up you can "see" a lot of transmitters hence the FM signals. Cheers, Geoff Glave Vancouver, Canada The window holes are much too small to let the much longer wavelengths of the 'AM' signals through. The body of the plane is a very effective screen. The 'FM' signals can squeeze in, but it helps if you have a window seat. I've also listened to SW in the middle of the Atlantic. Flying from the UK to Florida, on the other side of the Atlantic the first FM stations you hear are usually speaking French (from Quebec) It's quite alarming! Ian. -- |
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"Geoff Glave" wrote in message news:HxHud.9448$eb3.8331@clgrps13... Any explanation for this? FM radio generally operates at longer range than AM radio, however it's limited to line-of-sight. However, when you're 40,000 feet up you can "see" a lot of transmitters hence the FM signals. Cheers, Geoff Glave Vancouver, Canada I reckon you just answered the wrong question !! The reason A.M. radio can not be received in a plane is that it is a Faraday cage to the (lower frequency) A.M frequencies, whereas the VHF frequencies can just about get through the windows. There may be a bit of frequency / range issue as well but top band and 80 mtrs gets across the pond so I don't think this is the issue here... Nick |
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"Geoff Glave" wrote in message news:HxHud.9448$eb3.8331@clgrps13... Any explanation for this? FM radio generally operates at longer range than AM radio, however it's limited to line-of-sight. However, when you're 40,000 feet up you can "see" a lot of transmitters hence the FM signals. Cheers, Geoff Glave Vancouver, Canada I reckon you just answered the wrong question !! The reason A.M. radio can not be received in a plane is that it is a Faraday cage to the (lower frequency) A.M frequencies, whereas the VHF frequencies can just about get through the windows. There may be a bit of frequency / range issue as well but top band and 80 mtrs gets across the pond so I don't think this is the issue here... Nick |
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No one has mentioned that in many cases you need the pilot's permission to
operate a radio or other electronic device for that matter on a commercial airliner. That includes AM/FM radios. Radio emissions may screw up the plane's avionics. See URL: http://www.fordyce.org/scanning/scan.../scan_fly.html It sez: "The FAA does not allow inflight use of walkie-talkies, radio controlled toys, AM/FM radios, portable telephones, or portable television sets, all of which may affect aircraft radio and navigation equipment" Also cruise ships may deny use of two way (FRS) or ham radios -- always check with the communications officer. For Hams always check with the person in charge on any commercial transportation, busses, taxi's, ships planes etc. Yeah yeah I know you did it without getting permission, but read the URL as to what airlines have published. And I know from personal experience that some cruise lines do not allow FRS or ham radios transmissions. -- RF Gotta Go SomeWhere "nick smith" wrote in message ... "Geoff Glave" wrote in message news:HxHud.9448$eb3.8331@clgrps13... Any explanation for this? FM radio generally operates at longer range than AM radio, however it's limited to line-of-sight. However, when you're 40,000 feet up you can "see" a lot of transmitters hence the FM signals. Cheers, Geoff Glave Vancouver, Canada I reckon you just answered the wrong question !! The reason A.M. radio can not be received in a plane is that it is a Faraday cage to the (lower frequency) A.M frequencies, whereas the VHF frequencies can just about get through the windows. There may be a bit of frequency / range issue as well but top band and 80 mtrs gets across the pond so I don't think this is the issue here... Nick |
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No one has mentioned that in many cases you need the pilot's permission to
operate a radio or other electronic device for that matter on a commercial airliner. That includes AM/FM radios. Radio emissions may screw up the plane's avionics. See URL: http://www.fordyce.org/scanning/scan.../scan_fly.html It sez: "The FAA does not allow inflight use of walkie-talkies, radio controlled toys, AM/FM radios, portable telephones, or portable television sets, all of which may affect aircraft radio and navigation equipment" Also cruise ships may deny use of two way (FRS) or ham radios -- always check with the communications officer. For Hams always check with the person in charge on any commercial transportation, busses, taxi's, ships planes etc. Yeah yeah I know you did it without getting permission, but read the URL as to what airlines have published. And I know from personal experience that some cruise lines do not allow FRS or ham radios transmissions. -- RF Gotta Go SomeWhere "nick smith" wrote in message ... "Geoff Glave" wrote in message news:HxHud.9448$eb3.8331@clgrps13... Any explanation for this? FM radio generally operates at longer range than AM radio, however it's limited to line-of-sight. However, when you're 40,000 feet up you can "see" a lot of transmitters hence the FM signals. Cheers, Geoff Glave Vancouver, Canada I reckon you just answered the wrong question !! The reason A.M. radio can not be received in a plane is that it is a Faraday cage to the (lower frequency) A.M frequencies, whereas the VHF frequencies can just about get through the windows. There may be a bit of frequency / range issue as well but top band and 80 mtrs gets across the pond so I don't think this is the issue here... Nick |
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