Left Wing wackos still living the myths of Vietnam

This has recently appeared in the so called Main Stream Media from a
highly credentialed American "historian".

"...Who can forget the pictures of the
American embassy in Saigon being evacuated by
helicopter in 1975 as we left those Vietnamese who had
depended upon us to the tender mercies of the North
Vietnamese communists?..."

Myth: The American military was running for their
lives during the fall of Saigon in April 1975.

The picture of a Huey helicopter billed as military
helicopter
evacuating people from the top of what was billed as
being the U.S.
Embassy in Saigon during the last week of April 1975
during the fall of
Saigon helped to establish this myth.

Fact: This famous picture is the property of
Corbus-Bettman Archives.
It was originally a UPI photograph that was taken by
a Dutchman, Mr. Hugh Van Ess.

Here are some facts to clear up that poor job of
reporting by the international news
media.

Facts about the helicopter at the fall of Saigon

It was a "civilian" (Air America) Huey not US Army or
Marines.

It was NOT the U.S. Embassy. The building is the
Pittman Apartments.
The U.S. Embassy and its helipad were much larger.

The evacuees were Vietnamese not American military.


Perhaps this will help those who attempt to
differentiate betwen propaganda and truth.

So how would we feel today to learn that one of the
most emblematic photos of the war in Vietnam was not
what it purported to be? Today in the New York Times,
on the 30th anniversary of the end of the Vietnam War,
Dutch photographer Hubert Van Es tells us (now after 30 years of
revenue has been banked from his picture):

"THIRTY years ago I was fortunate enough to take a
photograph that has become perhaps the most
recognizable image of the fall of Saigon - you know
it, the one that is always described as showing an
American helicopter evacuating people from the roof of
the United States Embassy. Well, like so many things
about the Vietnam War, it's not exactly what it seems.
In fact, the photo is not of the embassy at all; the
helicopter was actually on the roof of an apartment
building in downtown Saigon..."etc.,etc,

"PJ O'Donovan" wrote in message
ups.com...
This has recently appeared in the so called Main Stream Media from a
highly credentialed American "historian".

"...Who can forget the pictures of the
American embassy in Saigon being evacuated by
helicopter in 1975 as we left those Vietnamese who had
depended upon us to the tender mercies of the North
Vietnamese communists?..."

Myth: The American military was running for their
lives during the fall of Saigon in April 1975.

The picture of a Huey helicopter billed as military
helicopter
evacuating people from the top of what was billed as
being the U.S.
Embassy in Saigon during the last week of April 1975
during the fall of
Saigon helped to establish this myth.

Fact: This famous picture is the property of
Corbus-Bettman Archives.
It was originally a UPI photograph that was taken by
a Dutchman, Mr. Hugh Van Ess.

Here are some facts to clear up that poor job of
reporting by the international news
media.

Facts about the helicopter at the fall of Saigon

It was a "civilian" (Air America) Huey not US Army or
Marines.

It was NOT the U.S. Embassy. The building is the
Pittman Apartments.
The U.S. Embassy and its helipad were much larger.

The evacuees were Vietnamese not American military.


Perhaps this will help those who attempt to
differentiate betwen propaganda and truth.

So how would we feel today to learn that one of the
most emblematic photos of the war in Vietnam was not
what it purported to be? Today in the New York Times,
on the 30th anniversary of the end of the Vietnam War,
Dutch photographer Hubert Van Es tells us (now after 30 years of
revenue has been banked from his picture):

"THIRTY years ago I was fortunate enough to take a
photograph that has become perhaps the most
recognizable image of the fall of Saigon - you know
it, the one that is always described as showing an
American helicopter evacuating people from the roof of
the United States Embassy. Well, like so many things
about the Vietnam War, it's not exactly what it seems.
In fact, the photo is not of the embassy at all; the
helicopter was actually on the roof of an apartment
building in downtown Saigon..."etc.,etc,

Dont worry same thing will happen in Iraq soon..the black hawk choppers will
burn and people will try like hell to get on board..

Nope people will not, americans maybe, not the iraqis.
They have a country of their own.


"justme" a écrit dans le message de news:
...

"PJ O'Donovan" wrote in message
ups.com...
This has recently appeared in the so called Main Stream Media from a
highly credentialed American "historian".

"...Who can forget the pictures of the
American embassy in Saigon being evacuated by
helicopter in 1975 as we left those Vietnamese who had
depended upon us to the tender mercies of the North
Vietnamese communists?..."

Myth: The American military was running for their
lives during the fall of Saigon in April 1975.

The picture of a Huey helicopter billed as military
helicopter
evacuating people from the top of what was billed as
being the U.S.
Embassy in Saigon during the last week of April 1975
during the fall of
Saigon helped to establish this myth.

Fact: This famous picture is the property of
Corbus-Bettman Archives.
It was originally a UPI photograph that was taken by
a Dutchman, Mr. Hugh Van Ess.

Here are some facts to clear up that poor job of
reporting by the international news
media.

Facts about the helicopter at the fall of Saigon

It was a "civilian" (Air America) Huey not US Army or
Marines.

It was NOT the U.S. Embassy. The building is the
Pittman Apartments.
The U.S. Embassy and its helipad were much larger.

The evacuees were Vietnamese not American military.


Perhaps this will help those who attempt to
differentiate betwen propaganda and truth.

So how would we feel today to learn that one of the
most emblematic photos of the war in Vietnam was not
what it purported to be? Today in the New York Times,
on the 30th anniversary of the end of the Vietnam War,
Dutch photographer Hubert Van Es tells us (now after 30 years of
revenue has been banked from his picture):

"THIRTY years ago I was fortunate enough to take a
photograph that has become perhaps the most
recognizable image of the fall of Saigon - you know
it, the one that is always described as showing an
American helicopter evacuating people from the roof of
the United States Embassy. Well, like so many things
about the Vietnam War, it's not exactly what it seems.
In fact, the photo is not of the embassy at all; the
helicopter was actually on the roof of an apartment
building in downtown Saigon..."etc.,etc,

Dont worry same thing will happen in Iraq soon..the black hawk choppers
will burn and people will try like hell to get on board..

On 12 Jul 2006 15:49:54 -0700, "PJ O'Donovan" wrote:

This has recently appeared in the so called Main Stream Media from a
highly credentialed American "historian".

"...Who can forget the pictures of the
American embassy in Saigon being evacuated by
helicopter in 1975 as we left those Vietnamese who had
depended upon us to the tender mercies of the North
Vietnamese communists?..."

Myth: The American military was running for their
lives during the fall of Saigon in April 1975.

The picture of a Huey helicopter billed as military
helicopter
evacuating people from the top of what was billed as
being the U.S.
Embassy in Saigon during the last week of April 1975
during the fall of
Saigon helped to establish this myth.

Fact: This famous picture is the property of
Corbus-Bettman Archives.
It was originally a UPI photograph that was taken by
a Dutchman, Mr. Hugh Van Ess.

Here are some facts to clear up that poor job of
reporting by the international news
media.

Facts about the helicopter at the fall of Saigon

It was a "civilian" (Air America) Huey not US Army or
Marines.

It was NOT the U.S. Embassy. The building is the
Pittman Apartments.
The U.S. Embassy and its helipad were much larger.

The evacuees were Vietnamese not American military.


Perhaps this will help those who attempt to
differentiate betwen propaganda and truth.

So how would we feel today to learn that one of the
most emblematic photos of the war in Vietnam was not
what it purported to be? Today in the New York Times,
on the 30th anniversary of the end of the Vietnam War,
Dutch photographer Hubert Van Es tells us (now after 30 years of
revenue has been banked from his picture):

"THIRTY years ago I was fortunate enough to take a
photograph that has become perhaps the most
recognizable image of the fall of Saigon - you know
it, the one that is always described as showing an
American helicopter evacuating people from the roof of
the United States Embassy. Well, like so many things
about the Vietnam War, it's not exactly what it seems.
In fact, the photo is not of the embassy at all; the
helicopter was actually on the roof of an apartment
building in downtown Saigon..."etc.,etc,

You are SO funny
A famous photo of people fleeing from Saigon via helicopter from the
top of a building turns out to be from the top of a different
building.

What difference does it make?

Try not to get caught up in irrelevant details - there is a bigger
picture.

On 12 Jul 2006 15:49:54 -0700, "PJ O'Donovan" wrote,
quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said :

The evacuees were Vietnamese not American military.

Why do you bother to state the obvious?
--
Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green, http://mindprod.com
Who's in charge Cheney or Bush? Ask the people who work for them:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/darkside/

Following up to PJ O'Donovan

"THIRTY years ago I was fortunate enough to take a
photograph that has become perhaps the most
recognizable image of the fall of Saigon - you know
it, the one that is always described as showing an
American helicopter evacuating people from the roof of
the United States Embassy. Well, like so many things
about the Vietnam War, it's not exactly what it seems.
In fact, the photo is not of the embassy at all; the
helicopter was actually on the roof of an apartment
building in downtown Saigon..."etc.,etc,

I see, so the US actually won in Vietnam, I'd misunderstood that
by seeing a helicopter photo in slightly the wrong light.

Why all the fuss now? Is Iraq beginning to look too like Vietnam
or something?
--
Mike Reid
Walk-eat-photos UK "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" -- you can email us@ this site
Walk-eat-photos Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" -- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap

"THIRTY years ago I was fortunate enough to take a
photograph that has become perhaps the most
recognizable image of the fall of Saigon - you know
iit, the one that is always described as showing an
American helicopter evacuating people from the roof of
the United States Embassy. Well, like so many things
about the Vietnam War, it's not exac,tly what it seems.
In fact, the photo is not of the embassy at all; the
helicopter was actually on the roof of an apartment
building in downtown Saigon..."etc.,etc

PeeJay

Why all the fuss now? Is Iraq beginning to look too like Vietnam
or something?

The Reid

The only thing the same is the "cut and run" song and dance routine
from you wackos on the left. F......g useful idiots..

Following up to PJ O'Donovan

The only thing the same is the "cut and run" song and dance routine
from you wackos on the left.

You wont hear me wanting to pull out now you morons have made a
total cock up of it through total inability to plan ahead

Given that you little story appears generally discredited anyway,
I think I know who the "wackos" are.
--
Mike Reid
"shock and awe" or what? A total cockup?
Spain, walking, food and stuff "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk"
UK photos walking food "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk"

...Given that you little story appears generally discredited anyway,
The Reid


This is the story "discredited". It was published by a highly
credentialed "historian" in academia, now, in July 2006.. Most are not
surprised. We all know that academia and the media are infested with
anti American left wing wackos as they attempt to perpetuate, their
myths surrounding Vietnam.

"...Who can forget the pictures of the
American embassy in Saigon being evacuated by
helicopter in 1975 as we left those Vietnamese who had
depended upon us to the tender mercies of the North
Vietnamese communists?..."











:

Following up to PJ O'Donovan

This is the story "discredited". It was published by a highly
credentialed "historian" in academia, now, in July 2006.. Most are not
surprised. We all know that academia and the media are infested with
anti American left wing wackos as they attempt to perpetuate, their
myths surrounding Vietnam.

bottom line, you lost. Did you read oconnels post?

Next problem, Iraq and Afghanistan. Can the western troops impose
order? It seems not and increasingly so. Heavy handed tactics
have destroyed the infrastructure and shoot first ask question
later tactics have lost the hearts and minds battle. A bit of a
mess.

If it listened more and mouthed off less, the American right
*might* be able to get a few things right in international
affairs.
--
Mike Reid
"shock and awe" or what? A total cockup?
Spain, walking, food and stuff "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk"
UK photos walking food "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk"