Most of Left Wing Media in the UK ignoring jihad across the Channel

www.melaniephillips.com qouting The Daily Telegraph, The Brussels
Journal, LeFigaro




Published October 6, 2006

The European jihad

You would barely know it in Britain, but France is currently under
violent siege from the jihad - and buckling under the onslaught. The
Daily Telegraph yesterday broke the almost total media silence in
Britain about the horrifying violence going on across the English
channel with this story about the fighting in the suburbs between
Muslim youths and the police:

Radical Muslims in France's housing estates are waging an undeclared
'intifada' against the police, with violent clashes injuring an
average of 14 officers each day. As the interior ministry said that
nearly 2,500 officers had been wounded this year, a police union
declared that its members were 'in a state of civil war' with
Muslims in the most depressed 'banlieue' estates which are heavily
populated by unemployed youths of north African origin. It said the
situation was so grave that it had asked the government to provide
police with armoured cars to protect officers in the estates, which are
becoming no-go zones...

Michel Thoomis, the secretary general of the hardline Action Police
trade union, has written to Mr Sarkozy warning of an 'intifada' on
the estates and demanding that officers be given armoured cars in the
most dangerous areas. He said yesterday: 'We are in a state of civil
war, orchestrated by radical Islamists. This is not a question of urban
violence any more, it is an intifada, with stones and Molotov
cocktails.'

It seems that other police officers, and other parts of French society,
are even now still in a state of denial over what they are facing,
insisting this is some kind of class war rather than what it really is,
a religious war. They said the same thing about last year's riots,
ignoring clear signs of religious activism and incitement- along with
the fact that the French government in desperation drafted Muslim
Brotherhood imams into the banlieues to quell the disorder, thus giving
the lie to the claim that these were merely 'secular' disturbances,
all about poverty and unemployment and other such sub-Marxist claptap.
They were anything but; they were actually all about French Muslims
declaring their turf to be no-go areas for the French state.

The Brussels Journal crisply gets to the point:

Most observers in the mainstream media (MSM) provide an
occidentocentric analysis of the facts. They depict the 'youths' as
outsiders who want to be brought into Western society and have the same
rights as the natives of Old Europe. The MSM believe that the
'youths' are being treated unjustly because they are not a
functioning part of Western society. They claim that, in spite of
positive discrimination, subsidies, public services, schools, and all
the provisions that have been made for immigrants over the years,
access has been denied them.
This is the Marxist rhetoric of the West that has been predominant in
the media and the chattering classes since the 1960s. But it does not
fit the facts of the situation in Europe today... Unlike their fathers,
who came to France from Muslim countries, accepting that, whilst
remaining Muslims themselves, they had come to live in a non-Muslim
country, the rioters see France as their country. They were born here.
This land is their land. And since they are Muslims, this land, or at
least a part of it, is Muslim as well. The society they live in is a
homogeneous Islamic one. For them that is society, there is no other.
Consequently there is also no question of their "leaving" that
society to become part of another society, the putative Western one.
"Society" is the society they live in and from which they view and
interpret what goes on around them. To understand their language we
must understand how they see us, where we fit in in their society.
Multiculturalism does not exist: it is always a matter of several
cultures living side by side in defined territories, and the laws of
one culture not applying in the territories of the others...

Those media that tell us that the rioting "youths" want to be a
part of our society and feel left out of it, are misrepresenting the
facts. As the insurgents see it, they are not a part of our society and
they want us to keep out of theirs. The violence in France is in no way
comparable with that of the blacks in the U.S. in the 1960s. The Paris
correspondent of The New York Times who writes that this a 'variant
of the same problem' is either lying or does not know what he is
talking about. The violence in France is of the type one finds when one
group wants to assert its authority and drive the others out of its
territory.

Meanwhile a French philosophy professor, Robert Redeker, has been in
hiding for his life for more than three weeks after being denounced on
al Jazeera by Ken Livingstone's friend Sheikh Yusuf Qaradawi,
following which he received death threats. His crime was to write an
article in Le Figaro - which has since removed it from its website
- denouncing Islam as a religion of inherent violence, unlike
Christianity or Judaism, and comparing Islamism to Soviet communism.
The Brussels Journal (again) reports:

In the article, which was published in the conservative daily Le Figaro
of September 19th, Robert Redeker accused Islam of 'exalting
violence.' Mr Redeker has not attended classes at his school near
Toulouse since the article was published. Pierre Rousselin, the editor
in chief of Le Figaro, apologized on Al-jazeera for the publication of
the article. A number of Islamic countries, including Egypt, banned Le
Figaro following the publication of Redeker's piece. Mr Rousselin
said the publication of the op-ed was a mistake. He said the article
did not express the paper's opinion. The article is no longer
available on the Figaro website.

Mr Redeker has written a letter to his friend, the philosopher André
Glucksmann, describing his ordeal [French text here]: 'I am now in a
catastrophic personal situation. Several death threats have been sent
to me, and I have been sentenced to death by organizations of the
al-Qaeda movement. [...] On the websites condemning me to death there
is a map showing how to get to my house to kill me, they have my photo,
the places where I work, the telephone numbers, and the death fatwa.
[...] There is no safe place for me, I have to beg, two evenings here,
two evenings there. [...] I am under the constant protection of the
police. I must cancel all scheduled conferences. And the authorities
urge me to keep moving. [...] All costs are at my own expense,
including those of rents a month or two ahead, the costs of moving
twice, legal expenses, etc. It's quite sad. I exercised my
constitutional rights, and I am punished for it, even in the territory
of the Republic. This affair is also an attack against national
sovereignty - foreign rules, decided by criminally minded fanatics,
punish me for having exercised a constitutional right, and I am
subjected, even in France, to great injury.'

The Journal has also been reporting violence in Brussels, with three
days of 'Ramadan rioting' and prison officers having to receive
police protection on their way to work because of attacks following the
death of a Muslim prison inmate for which other Muslims blame the
prison authorities. And now the violence is spiralling out into the
political sphe

Belgian artists warn that a victory of the "islamophobic" Vlaams
Belang [Flemish Interest] party in the local elections on October 8th
may lead to violence. In an interview in the Dutch-language weekly
Knack Magazine this week painter Luc Tuymans says: 'In the worst case
you will get organised resistance, perhaps even rather violent
reactions. I suspect many shop keepers will have their windows smashed.
People do not seem to be aware, but a vote for the Vlaams Belang may
have serious consequences. They should realize this before they take a
final decision in the voting booth.'...

Last week, self-declared 'anti-fascist' activists vandalised a car
with Belgian licence plates in Amsterdam. They mistook the vehicle for
the car of Vlaams Belang politician Filip Dewinter. The car, however,
belonged to a French businesswoman based in Brussels. VB politicians
are often the victims of acts of vandalism, including arson attempts.
Yesterday the party announced that it has established a fund to
reimburse local candidates whose properties gets damaged.

Just across the channel, therefore, there is mayhem: a religious war,
escalating violence and gross intimidation, supine or ineffectual
public authorities locked into a state of denial, and a growing climate
of political violence and anarchy. Yet apart from a small number of
articles, the British media has barely registered these terrifying and
most ominous events. It has been preoccupied with yet more evidence of
its own deep confusion as it progressively allows itself to be cowed by
Islamic extremism. I shall post on those particular matters later
today.

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From: "PJ O'Donovan"
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Date: 6 Oct 2006 06:46:08 -0700
Subject: Most of Left Wing Media in the UK ignoring jihad across the Channel

Published October 6, 2006

The European jihad

You would barely know it in Britain, but France is currently under
violent siege from the jihad - and buckling under the onslaught. The
Daily Telegraph yesterday broke the almost total media silence in
Britain about the horrifying violence going on across the English
channel with this story about the fighting in the suburbs between
Muslim youths and the police:

Radical Muslims in France's housing estates are waging an undeclared
'intifada' against the police, with violent clashes injuring an
average of 14 officers each day. As the interior ministry said that
nearly 2,500 officers had been wounded this year, a police union
declared that its members were 'in a state of civil war' with
Muslims in the most depressed 'banlieue' estates which are heavily
populated by unemployed youths of north African origin. It said the
situation was so grave that it had asked the government to provide
police with armoured cars to protect officers in the estates, which are
becoming no-go zones...

Oh PJ, this is very exciting very exciting very exciting!!!! It's so
exciting to you that your poor brain has overloaded. Along with the British
sensationalist who wrote this article. I'm sure it sold well, going on the
yellow journalism principle: if it bleeds, it leads.

Now I will repeat once again, in yet another and surely impossible attempt
to enlighten you: these suburban youths may be of Muslim origin, but this is
not a religious war. It is not jihad. The principle aim of these guys is
to see themselves on the evening news.

You, dear PJ, have never met these types. I have. Barry, the prisoner we
visited, met lots of them. They were not interested in religion except at
the time of Ramadan, when the few fundamentalists in the prison would share
their special food with them for the breaking of the fast. This was an
attempt to convert these guys, agreed, but it usually failed, as most of
them would go back to smoking dope, as usual. Yes, in prison. Drugs are
available in any prison you can name, anywhere.

You also don't know anything about our current Interior Minister, Nicolas
Sarkozy. He is running for president next year. As Interior Minister he is
in charge of security. So he is pumping up his statistics to look good.
"Sarko" is not part of the solution, he is part of the problem.

Now why don't you tell us about your little town in Georgia. The first
axiom of writing is: write about something you know.

Of course you don't really write, so I will amend that. Cut and paste about
something you know.

Donna evleth

"Donna Evleth" wrote in message
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From: "PJ O'Donovan"
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Date: 6 Oct 2006 06:46:08 -0700
Subject: Most of Left Wing Media in the UK ignoring jihad across the
Channel

Published October 6, 2006

The European jihad

You would barely know it in Britain, but France is currently under
violent siege from the jihad - and buckling under the onslaught. The
Daily Telegraph yesterday broke the almost total media silence in
Britain about the horrifying violence going on across the English
channel with this story about the fighting in the suburbs between
Muslim youths and the police:

Radical Muslims in France's housing estates are waging an undeclared
'intifada' against the police, with violent clashes injuring an
average of 14 officers each day. As the interior ministry said that
nearly 2,500 officers had been wounded this year, a police union
declared that its members were 'in a state of civil war' with
Muslims in the most depressed 'banlieue' estates which are heavily
populated by unemployed youths of north African origin. It said the
situation was so grave that it had asked the government to provide
police with armoured cars to protect officers in the estates, which are
becoming no-go zones...

Oh PJ, this is very exciting very exciting very exciting!!!! It's so
exciting to you that your poor brain has overloaded. Along with the
British
sensationalist who wrote this article. I'm sure it sold well, going on
the
yellow journalism principle: if it bleeds, it leads.

Now I will repeat once again, in yet another and surely impossible attempt
to enlighten you: these suburban youths may be of Muslim origin, but this
is
not a religious war. It is not jihad. The principle aim of these guys is
to see themselves on the evening news.

You, dear PJ, have never met these types. I have. Barry, the prisoner we
visited, met lots of them. They were not interested in religion except at
the time of Ramadan, when the few fundamentalists in the prison would
share
their special food with them for the breaking of the fast. This was an
attempt to convert these guys, agreed, but it usually failed, as most of
them would go back to smoking dope, as usual. Yes, in prison. Drugs are
available in any prison you can name, anywhere.

You also don't know anything about our current Interior Minister, Nicolas
Sarkozy. He is running for president next year. As Interior Minister he
is
in charge of security. So he is pumping up his statistics to look good.
"Sarko" is not part of the solution, he is part of the problem.

Now why don't you tell us about your little town in Georgia. The first
axiom of writing is: write about something you know.

Of course you don't really write, so I will amend that. Cut and paste
about
something you know.

Donna evleth


How odd. My friend Caroline who lives in France, says the Mohammedans *are*
waging a religious war. All her friends do too. Everyone I know in Holland
*certainly* believes that! Perhaps your version of the truth is the one that
doesn't disrupt your fuzzy Liberal belief system, Donna. Congratulations for
typing so well with your tete up your derriere, though !!

Donna Evleth wrote:
From: "PJ O'Donovan"
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Newsgroups:
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Date: 6 Oct 2006 06:46:08 -0700
Subject: Most of Left Wing Media in the UK ignoring jihad across the Channel

Published October 6, 2006

The European jihad

You would barely know it in Britain, but France is currently under
violent siege from the jihad - and buckling under the onslaught. The
Daily Telegraph yesterday broke the almost total media silence in
Britain about the horrifying violence going on across the English
channel with this story about the fighting in the suburbs between
Muslim youths and the police:

Radical Muslims in France's housing estates are waging an undeclared
'intifada' against the police, with violent clashes injuring an
average of 14 officers each day. As the interior ministry said that
nearly 2,500 officers had been wounded this year, a police union
declared that its members were 'in a state of civil war' with
Muslims in the most depressed 'banlieue' estates which are heavily
populated by unemployed youths of north African origin. It said the
situation was so grave that it had asked the government to provide
police with armoured cars to protect officers in the estates, which are
becoming no-go zones...

Oh PJ, this is very exciting very exciting very exciting!!!! It's so
exciting to you that your poor brain has overloaded. Along with the British
sensationalist who wrote this article. I'm sure it sold well, going on the
yellow journalism principle: if it bleeds, it leads.

Now I will repeat once again, in yet another and surely impossible attempt
to enlighten you: these suburban youths may be of Muslim origin, but this is
not a religious war. It is not jihad. The principle aim of these guys is
to see themselves on the evening news.

You, dear PJ, have never met these types. I have. Barry, the prisoner we
visited, met lots of them. They were not interested in religion except at
the time of Ramadan, when the few fundamentalists in the prison would share
their special food with them for the breaking of the fast. This was an
attempt to convert these guys, agreed, but it usually failed, as most of
them would go back to smoking dope, as usual. Yes, in prison. Drugs are
available in any prison you can name, anywhere.

You also don't know anything about our current Interior Minister, Nicolas
Sarkozy. He is running for president next year. As Interior Minister he is
in charge of security. So he is pumping up his statistics to look good.
"Sarko" is not part of the solution, he is part of the problem.

Now why don't you tell us about your little town in Georgia. The first
axiom of writing is: write about something you know.

Of course you don't really write, so I will amend that. Cut and paste about
something you know.

Donna evleth

Mullah MikeinCamden (peace be upon him) points out that the troubles
certainly result from immigration and multiculti even if those involved
are not strict Muslims.

could the evleth family, man, wife, piggy and whatever stop polluting all
the groups ??!!
Learn to use a comp before polluting.

"Donna Evleth" a écrit dans le message de news:
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From: "PJ O'Donovan"
Organization: http://groups.google.com
Newsgroups:
alt.activism.death-penalty,talk.politics.misc,uk.politics.misc,aus.po litics,re
c.travel.europe
Date: 6 Oct 2006 06:46:08 -0700
Subject: Most of Left Wing Media in the UK ignoring jihad across the
Channel

Published October 6, 2006

The European jihad

You would barely know it in Britain, but France is currently under
violent siege from the jihad - and buckling under the onslaught. The
Daily Telegraph yesterday broke the almost total media silence in
Britain about the horrifying violence going on across the English
channel with this story about the fighting in the suburbs between
Muslim youths and the police:

Radical Muslims in France's housing estates are waging an undeclared
'intifada' against the police, with violent clashes injuring an
average of 14 officers each day. As the interior ministry said that
nearly 2,500 officers had been wounded this year, a police union
declared that its members were 'in a state of civil war' with
Muslims in the most depressed 'banlieue' estates which are heavily
populated by unemployed youths of north African origin. It said the
situation was so grave that it had asked the government to provide
police with armoured cars to protect officers in the estates, which are
becoming no-go zones...

Oh PJ, this is very exciting very exciting very exciting!!!! It's so
exciting to you that your poor brain has overloaded. Along with the
British
sensationalist who wrote this article. I'm sure it sold well, going on
the
yellow journalism principle: if it bleeds, it leads.

Now I will repeat once again, in yet another and surely impossible attempt
to enlighten you: these suburban youths may be of Muslim origin, but this
is
not a religious war. It is not jihad. The principle aim of these guys is
to see themselves on the evening news.

You, dear PJ, have never met these types. I have. Barry, the prisoner we
visited, met lots of them. They were not interested in religion except at
the time of Ramadan, when the few fundamentalists in the prison would
share
their special food with them for the breaking of the fast. This was an
attempt to convert these guys, agreed, but it usually failed, as most of
them would go back to smoking dope, as usual. Yes, in prison. Drugs are
available in any prison you can name, anywhere.

You also don't know anything about our current Interior Minister, Nicolas
Sarkozy. He is running for president next year. As Interior Minister he
is
in charge of security. So he is pumping up his statistics to look good.
"Sarko" is not part of the solution, he is part of the problem.

Now why don't you tell us about your little town in Georgia. The first
axiom of writing is: write about something you know.

Of course you don't really write, so I will amend that. Cut and paste
about
something you know.

Donna evleth

On 6 Oct 2006 06:46:08 -0700, "PJ O'Donovan" wrote:

The MSM believe that the
'youths' are being treated unjustly because they are not a
functioning part of Western society. They claim that, in spite of
positive discrimination, subsidies, public services, schools, and all
the provisions that have been made for immigrants over the years,
access has been denied them.

They don't need any of this stuff. They need a chance instead.
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...Perhaps your version of the truth is the one that
doesn't disrupt your fuzzy Liberal belief system, Donna.
Congratulations for
typing so well with your tete up your derriere, though !!

True Blue.

Excellent post

With these left wing pseudo intellectuals, its all about how you say
it, how you spell it, how you punctuate it etc., not context. I like to
cut and paste what somebody else can say better
but they still resort to attack the messenger or the media publishing
it when they don't like the message while they spout about "diversity"
out of the other side of their jowls.

Of course all this physical stuff may not be accurate for Donna . Based
on what she has broadcasted about herself on aadp she is proud that she
is apparently void of tete, derrier or jowl. That is probably why her
husband Earl is such a bitter decrepit , but amusing old left wing
whacko.

From: "True Blue"
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Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 19:08:04 +0100
Subject: Most of Left Wing Media in the UK ignoring jihad across
theChannel

How odd. My friend Caroline who lives in France, says the Mohammedans *are*
waging a religious war. All her friends do too. Everyone I know in Holland
*certainly* believes that! Perhaps your version of the truth is the one that
doesn't disrupt your fuzzy Liberal belief system, Donna. Congratulations for
typing so well with your tete up your derriere, though !!

Where in France does your friend Caroline live? I was in the Belleville
area of Paris yesterday, populated by many Muslims, but noticed no religious
war. Since tall blond me was striding through their turf, wouldn't you
think they would have attacked? In fact I walk through that area often, and
am still waiting to be warred on.

This loud claim of "jihad" here is hysterics. I'm just not into hysterics.
On the other hand, maybe this sort of report is what the right wing wishes
was happening in France?

Donna Evleth

From: "PJ O'Donovan"
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Date: 6 Oct 2006 17:33:39 -0700
Subject: Most of Left Wing Media in the UK ignoring jihad across
theChannel

Of course all this physical stuff may not be accurate for Donna . Based
on what she has broadcasted about herself on aadp she is proud that she
is apparently void of tete, derrier or jowl. That is probably why her
husband Earl is such a bitter decrepit , but amusing old left wing
whacko.

You're right. I am not endowed with either steatopygia or buccula. It is
true that I do not weigh as much as your lovely wife does. But then I have
an excuse - I'm taller than she is:-)

Donna Evleth

hahaha the evleths in Belleville, what a laugh !!!
Try La Courneuve and the group will be in peace

"Donna Evleth" a écrit dans le message de news:
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From: "True Blue"
Newsgroups:
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Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 19:08:04 +0100
Subject: Most of Left Wing Media in the UK ignoring jihad across
theChannel

How odd. My friend Caroline who lives in France, says the Mohammedans
*are*
waging a religious war. All her friends do too. Everyone I know in
Holland
*certainly* believes that! Perhaps your version of the truth is the one
that
doesn't disrupt your fuzzy Liberal belief system, Donna. Congratulations
for
typing so well with your tete up your derriere, though !!

Where in France does your friend Caroline live? I was in the Belleville
area of Paris yesterday, populated by many Muslims, but noticed no
religious
war. Since tall blond me was striding through their turf, wouldn't you
think they would have attacked? In fact I walk through that area often,
and
am still waiting to be warred on.

This loud claim of "jihad" here is hysterics. I'm just not into hysterics.
On the other hand, maybe this sort of report is what the right wing wishes
was happening in France?

Donna Evleth