Terrorism and tourism

From: Benjamin Smith

Was Madrid a known terrorist target? Bali? Who really knows where the
next target is

I am sorry, Ben, but that is what I am worrying about.

Dick, how would you feel if your land was invaded, some of your people
rounded up, and then placed into humiliating positions that some of the
prisoners in those pictures were placed in? And some of them were beaten
to death as well. The beheading of Nick Berg is within this context. War
brings out the dehumanization of people, horrible acts on both sides go
on in wars. These people don't really hate us, this is revenge. I looked
at comments on the BBC board regarding the beheading. Many people from
the Arabic language board condemned in strong terms the horrific,
harrowing, barbaric beheading of the young American worker.

I have served my country in occupied Germany in 1955. Somehow I understood the
rules and try as you might you will not find any pictures of me holding any
German national on a leash.

In a war which should never have happened $hit happened, and at this time we
are far beyond kiss and make up, and you should be able to understand that.

I am sure that Iraqis died the same kind of death that Nick Berg did, but none
of it makes it right.




DG in Cherry Hill, NJ

In article ,
ojunk (Dick Goldhaber) wrote:
From:

Dick... If you ever get on a cruise ship and notice that one of the
Chefs bears a strong resemblance to Steven Segal, be on the look-out.
..Otherwise, put your trust in the Captain, turn CNN off, relax and
enjoy the cruise. ...Jon

"Under Siege" was not a realistic portrayal of a ship in distress. For that I
submit "Speed 2: Cruise Control" unless you happen to live near the pier in St.
Maartin or have booked Seabourn Legend.

Especially since U.S. was on a warship, one of the old battlewagons, IIRC.

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Dick Goldhaber wrote:

Now I remember why, when I can use my Comcast account, I chose NOT
to read your
moronic posts.

But since I now have to be subjected to your bull$hit, please share with us the
report of your last cruise.

Oy vey, Dick. You're not only responding the the ****wit again, your
asking it to report something. What gives, are you a bissel meshugana
today?

And please tell me why I should "grow up".

Please don't!


DG in Cherry Hill, NJ

Er, I believe she did share the report of that cruise, the one she
called a JewsCruise, or something equally elegant.

Be careful what you ask for!

Eileen

P.S. In my opinion, grown-ups are pretty dull.


Dick Goldhaber wrote:


Now I remember why, when I can use my Comcast account, I chose NOT to read your
moronic posts.

But since I now have to be subjected to your bull$hit, please share with us the
report of your last cruise.

And please tell me why I should "grow up".




DG in Cherry Hill, NJ

Afew years our son and his wife went to Egypt for two weeks I said it could be
dangerous. His answer was "It is probley more dangerous when I go to Detroit on
business" I agreed

Go for it

Lou

I've been to Egypt. I felt safer there then in Canada. The people
there are extremely nice and friendly. Yes, there's the ones who
participate in hate crimes, but people like that exist in Canada too.
Hey, I got called a rude name while walking down the street last week
in Vancouver!

I say go and enjoy your trip! And as my mother used to say, "When it's
your time to go, it's your time to go."

And if you hop on a tour, they won't take you to any unsafe areas.
Even when I was walking down the street alone in Cairo, I would have
people tell me "Don't cross the street there, it isn't safe", and they
do look out for the tourists. Also, military service is mandatory in
Egypt and there have always been armed guards all over the place.

~Melanie

In article , ojunk says...


Danni and I have a cruise booked for later this year which will take us out
of
the country. It will take us to certain areas of the world which recently
have
been in the news as terrorist targets.

Up until yesterday when word of the death by beheading of Nick Berg suddenly
made me aware that there are people out there who really hate us, I was hot
to
trot, but now I am starting to re-think my decision.

Macho me wants to say that terrorism will not alter my plans, but my
responsibility as a parent has me giving the trip second thoughts.

Does anyone have any sage advice to offer me?
DG in Cherry Hill, NJ


I look at things from a mathematical standpoint. I don't say
what are the chances that there will be a terrorist incident.
I say what are the chances that I will be a victim of a terrorist
incident. The answer is very slim. I am more at risk of getting
in a car accident or being the victim of street crime on one of the
islands than of being a victim of a terrorist.

I don't worry about terrorism.

"CupCaked" wrote in message
...

Does anyone have any sage advice to offer me?
DG in Cherry Hill, NJ


Life is not a dress rehearsal. Go.

When I brought this up several months ago while in the planning stages
of our tandem QE2/QM2 trip ( I was concerned about the ships being
targets, New York City also being a target again), many wise posters
here said not to let the *******s get me down. If I stopped
traveling, they (the terrorists who hate us) would, in essence, win.

I flew home from London's Heathrow airport days after September 11th.
I've traveled much since then. I WILL NOT let the *******s get me
down. I suggest you do the same.


To me there are 2 distinctly different levels of concern here.

1) is about a retiree and her husband, both who've lived the majority of
their lives, not letting the so called *******s get them down.

2) is about a father being worried about his much younger daughter, who has
much of her life ahead of her. I look at that differently and I can't judge
those concerns equally. I'm sorry, but I just don't.

Quite frankly I wouldn't take my kids to a place that I didn't think was at
least "reasonably" safe.

Sure you can have an accident at home, or something like that. One is bad
luck. The other is putting yourself or your kids in "harms way".

--Tom

Dick

We were on a cruise sailing to Oslo when 9-11 occured. We could have
just as easily been at the World Trade Center that day. We used to take
friends & relatives there for lunch at Windows on the World when they
were in town.

Go for it & enjoy. When your time is up it doesn't matter where you are.

Florence

Geez... I've never been to Egypt, but as a Canadian, I feel extremely
safe living here. ...As for rude names-- I've been called everything
under the sun. Not only by Canadians, but Americans, Germans, dutch,
etc. ...Such is the joy of operating a business that deals directly with
the public. ...However, having someone act rude, does not equate to
terrorism. ...Jon

In article ,
(Florence and Lou Roth) wrote:
Dick

We were on a cruise sailing to Oslo when 9-11 occured. We could have
just as easily been at the World Trade Center that day. We used to take
friends & relatives there for lunch at Windows on the World when they
were in town.

Go for it & enjoy. When your time is up it doesn't matter where you are.

"I never have been all that worried about the bullet with my name on it. The
one that conerns me is the one that says 'to whom it may concern'".
Now if I could just remember who said it...

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"Writers even write the silences"
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