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Despite resistance from Leftism Full-Body Scans Now to Be Usedfor Flights From Amsterdam to U.S.
On Jan 1, 12:41*pm, William Black wrote:
Mxsmanic wrote: William Black writes: What parameters do you use? Deep questioning works well, and doesn't require any parameters. Too expensive. Almost two hundred thousand people a day pass through Heathrow. I passed through Heathrow several months ago, and they ordered me to remove my baseball cap and send it through the X-ray machine. For some reason, turbans were not considered a security threat, and I personally witnessed Sikh men in turbans - as well as Muslim women in headscarves - pass through without being ordered to remove their head coverings for inspection. As for body scanners, you can be certain that exceptions will be made, for Muslim women in particular. Imagine ordering a Muslim woman in a burqa to submit to a scan that will show her naked from head to toe. It's not going to happen, and an exception to the rule is not only discriminatory, but also defeats the purpose of the security procedure. |
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Despite resistance from Leftism Full-Body Scans Now to Be Used for Flights From Amsterdam to U.S.
Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously) writes:
Depending on whether or not you meet the profile and act within the profile. Yes. You can make that distinction with the questioning itself or in other ways. |
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Despite resistance from Leftism Full-Body Scans Now to Be Used for Flights From Amsterdam to U.S.
"Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)" wrote in message ... "tim...." wrote: "Mxsmanic" wrote in message ... Use profiling instead of body scans. It's more effective in preventing problems. rubbish. As soon as you start profiling "in" certain types of people, the terrorist will recruit the people that you profile "out" This claim, which suggests that the terrorists will soon be recruiting little old ladies from Cincinnati, seems a little difficult to believe. Do you really think that only little old ladies will be profiled out. Profiling targets 1% of the sample set and leaves out the other 99%. It will be easy to move into that other 99% We know that security makes it harder for the terrorists. If you look at the number of terror attacks in Afghanistan and in the Middle East and then in the West, it is obvious that most people willing to die in an attack are not able to move well in Western society. Making a comparison with the attacks in Afghanistan is not valid. They are a different set of people to the international terrorist tim |
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Despite resistance from Leftism Full-Body Scans Now to Be Usedfor Flights From Amsterdam to U.S.
abelard wrote:
On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 20:44:39 +0000, William Black wrote: abelard wrote: On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 20:19:02 +0000, William Black That will last exactly as long as it takes to bring one down... no it won't.... most people ride cars which are vastly more dangerous than international airlines.... People own their own cars. Airlines own aircraft, and they cost a very great deal of money. you live in a media bubble.... plane are not all vastly expensive After the first one is brought down you won't be able to get insurance for them. don't be daft...all that will happen is the premiums will rise.... doubtless they'll never rise to the price of car insurance per mile any risk has a market price.... the worst that will happen is the customers will stay away for a few weeks until they forget..... or people will use the tunnel or even their madly dangerous cars Lloyds won't forget. so what?....the tickets will meet any rise in insurance.... the markets *will* adjust and correct.... you seem to worry so...and in a vacuum of theory wholly untainted by reality Go away prat. -- William Black "Any number under six" The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat single handed with a quarterstaff. |
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Despite resistance from Leftism Full-Body Scans Now to Be Used forFlights From Amsterdam to U.S.
"tim...." wrote: "Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)" wrote in message ... "tim...." wrote: "Mxsmanic" wrote in message ... Use profiling instead of body scans. It's more effective in preventing problems. rubbish. As soon as you start profiling "in" certain types of people, the terrorist will recruit the people that you profile "out" This claim, which suggests that the terrorists will soon be recruiting little old ladies from Cincinnati, seems a little difficult to believe. Do you really think that only little old ladies will be profiled out. Profiling targets 1% of the sample set and leaves out the other 99%. I think you just made that up. It will be easy to move into that other 99% It's not even easy to move into the 1% in the first place. We know that security makes it harder for the terrorists. If you look at the number of terror attacks in Afghanistan and in the Middle East and then in the West, it is obvious that most people willing to die in an attack are not able to move well in Western society. Making a comparison with the attacks in Afghanistan is not valid. They are a different set of people to the international terrorist The attackers in Afghanistan and in Iraq and in many other places have a difficult time moving around in western societies, especially in the United States. -- Tiger tells eleven mistresses, "I will leave my wife for you." |
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Despite resistance from Leftism Full-Body Scans Now to Be Used forFlights From Amsterdam to U.S.
Mxsmanic wrote: Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously) writes: Depending on whether or not you meet the profile and act within the profile. Yes. You can make that distinction with the questioning itself or in other ways. I think I'd ask a Palestinian a few more questions than someone who was not fitting the usual profile. -- Tiger tells eleven mistresses, "I will leave my wife for you." |
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Despite resistance from Leftism Full-Body Scans Now to BeUsed forFlights From Amsterdam to U.S.
Donna Evleth wrote: From: Mitchell Holman I note that PJ refers to you as "HoleMan". Calling names that he thinks are cute and that everyone else thinks are silly is his specialty. It's actually Mitch A. Holman. Please killfile him. I already have, and am tired of seeing him resurrected through the replies of others. It's interesting that you and Earl and Rennie and others are free to insult me or PJ or other Conservatives and that's just fine, but the *slightest* response back is just so offensive to you. -- Tiger tells eleven mistresses, "I will leave my wife for you." |
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Despite resistance from Leftism Full-Body Scans Now to Be Used for Flights From Amsterdam to U.S.
"Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)" wrote in message ... "tim...." wrote: "Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)" wrote in message ... "tim...." wrote: "Mxsmanic" wrote in message ... Use profiling instead of body scans. It's more effective in preventing problems. rubbish. As soon as you start profiling "in" certain types of people, the terrorist will recruit the people that you profile "out" This claim, which suggests that the terrorists will soon be recruiting little old ladies from Cincinnati, seems a little difficult to believe. Do you really think that only little old ladies will be profiled out. Profiling targets 1% of the sample set and leaves out the other 99%. I think you just made that up. No, that's how it works (OK the number might be near 5% and 95%), but if you are going to increase the interrogation of the profiled candidates by a factor of 4, you're going to have to decrease the sample by a factor of 4 tim |
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Despite resistance from Leftism Full-Body Scans Now to BeUsedfor Flights From Amsterdam to U.S.
From: "Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)" Organization: Our legacy is not the lives we lived but the lives we leave to those who come after us. Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty,talk.politics.misc,uk.politics.misc,aus.po litics,re c.travel.europe Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2010 21:32:34 +0000 Subject: Despite resistance from Leftism Full-Body Scans Now to BeUsed for Flights From Amsterdam to U.S. Donna Evleth wrote: From: Mitchell Holman I note that PJ refers to you as "HoleMan". Calling names that he thinks are cute and that everyone else thinks are silly is his specialty. It's actually Mitch A. Holman. Please killfile him. I already have, and am tired of seeing him resurrected through the replies of others. It's interesting that you and Earl and Rennie and others are free to insult me or PJ or other Conservatives and that's just fine, but the *slightest* response back is just so offensive to you. I don't believe I insult you, or anyone else, much. I disagree with your ideas. As to PJ, I have him killfiled. Explain how I insult you, and I will consider an apology. Donna Evleth -- Tiger tells eleven mistresses, "I will leave my wife for you." |
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Despite resistance from Leftism Full-Body Scans Now to BeUsed forFlights From Amsterdam to U.S.
On Jan 3, 6:27*am, Donna Evleth wrote:
From: "Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)" Organization: Our legacy is not the lives we lived but the lives we leave to those who *come after us. Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty,talk.politics.misc,uk.politics.misc,aus.po litics ,re c.travel.europe Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2010 21:32:34 +0000 Subject: Despite resistance from Leftism Full-Body Scans Now to BeUsed for *Flights From Amsterdam to U.S. Donna Evleth wrote: From: Mitchell Holman I note that PJ refers to you as "HoleMan". *Calling names that he thinks are cute and that everyone else thinks are silly is his specialty. It's actually Mitch A. Holman. Please killfile him. *I already have, and am tired of seeing him resurrected through the replies of others. It's interesting that you and Earl and Rennie and others are free to insult me or PJ or other Conservatives and that's just fine, but the *slightest* response back is just so offensive to you. I don't believe I insult you, or anyone else, much. *I disagree with your ideas. *As to PJ, I have him killfiled. *Explain how I insult you, and I will consider an apology. Donna Evleth -- Tiger tells eleven mistresses, "I will leave my wife for you." ply Reply to author Forward Report spam Rate this post: Donna Evleth View profile More options Dec 29 2009, 6:27 am - Hide quoted text - From: "Mr Q. Z. Diablo" t Organization: The Infernal Bureaucracy Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty Date: 28 Dec 2009 22:09:58 GMT Subject: Radical Leftism and The Death of Moderate Democrats. On 2009-12-28, PJ O'Donovan unwisely decided to post the following to Usenet: On Dec 28, 4:16?pm, Donna Evleth wrote: Death of Moderate Democrats. Exactly! ?Moderate repugs have become an endangered species. The term "moderate repugs" is an oxymoron. Donna Evleth Since Leftism loves to "label" And irony meters everywhere explode in a shower of sparks and a spray of tiny metallic components. Indeed. Just who is it that constantly talks about "DemocRATs? Or Nancy PEELOUSY? You. ****ing. Moron. No argument there. Donna Evleth - Show quote |
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