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When You Hear The Heavy Accent & The Poor Phone Connection... HANG UP!!! ------ 2tDMpvDi
On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 22:11:12 +1000, "Peter Webb"
wrote: "John L" wrote in message news You seem to base all your arguments on how I think, what I buy, & what my occupation is. Therefore your arguments have absolutely no validity, as you have no idea what I buy, how I think or my profession. Look back at the thread. You speculated on my employment - specifically that I worked for a telco or Bank. I did not speculate on yours. Perhaps you would like to give some validity to those spurious statements by stating what my profession is Ummm where did I do that? No its not "or is [he] simply employed in one of these industries as a manager". That was YOU speculating on MY employment. Forgetting which side you are arguing on? No, just aware of your less than subtle comments regarding my credentials re banks & telcos. Obviouslyf you don't believe my statement regarding my profession, so lets hear your thoughtrs on it. & what brand of shoe I wear, I don'y buy inferior products or your inferior arguments. Try to stick to facts & don't impose your fantasies regarding the buying habits & thoughts of other people. It appears you believe a little spin makes your own arguments appear more legitimate.. Your own hypocrisy is breathtaking. Gee, so I guess this is put up or shut up time. Do you buy Australian made shoes? From where? How much did they cost? How about your clothes - made in Australia, or at an overseas factory? Of course, your kids toys - no doubt all made in Australia? More assumptions on my spending habits as well as my family circumstances. As you were the one that raised spending habits, let's hear a little about yours. State your credentials. Unless you have never bought a pair of shoes that cost less than $300 (and this is the time and place to state this is true), you have made an economic cost-cutting decision to use an outsourced offshore supplier - exactly the same behaviour as you critisice the Banks for. This makes you a "greediest & most socially immoral entity" - somewhat worse than the Banks and telcos, as More about my spending habits. Nice emotive term, adds heat but not much light to your argument. 1. They are not flaming hypocrites Your words, not mine. 2. You did it long before you did I did what, before I did what? 3. They act this way to save some-one else's money - their shareholders - you do it for completely selfish reasons. Thank you for the free consultation, more assumptions of my motives & the motives of company directors.on your part. If you support overseas call centres why do you call the Indians idiots for playing Indian music, would it be better in your eyes if they conned people into believing they were in Australia. Better for them, yes. Because there are people who (rightly or wrongly) believe that the call centre industry should be protected from overseas competition. Possibly the majority of thinking Australians would fall into this group. No I don't speak for them, just understand the average Aussie's feelings. .. Your attempt to add a little (cough) racism says more about your own moral outlook than any of your spurious arguments. You'd do Warney proud with your spin. Missed this one, did we? It's more than a little curious why the companies would prefer their customers not know the call centres were overseas. Could it be they are aware of the slippery moral grounds for outsourcing? No. Its purely a matter of business. They win no friends in Australia by moving their call centres offshore. Doesn't of course mean that they are wrong to do so, its just that they have better things to do than explain macro-economic theory to bozzos on newsgroups. Lucky we have you, the consumate expert to do this. Your credentials are? Where is the benefit to the Australian consumer when it puts other Australians out of work & the taxpayer has to foot the unemployemnt bill. Your comment? Or is this one too hard? Everybody else in the developed world understood this argument 50 years ago. You asked everybody, you speak for everyone in the developed world? More spin. Lets take it from the top. Q) How is moving a call centre offshore morally different to moving a shoe manufacturing facility offshore? Probably none, are you using Nike as an example? Or do you think Australia should prohibit the importation of shoes, textiles, pharmaceuticals, factory equipment, aircraft, industrial chemicals, software, and patent rights from overseas? Alternatively, if you think that these industries should be open to offshore competition, explain to me just one more time why call centres should be protected when none of these other (strategically more important) industries are not? Australia can't exist as a customer nation, we need to take a stand somwhere. I am not responsible for short sighted government policies. You obviously prefer the lemming principle. Do that, and you can kick my arse with the $400 shoes, hand made in the Strand Arcade, that you are presumably wearing. I wouldn't bother, they would fit better in your mouth. John L. |
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