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"BAC" wrote:
I'm looking for a new experience, to see the wild life and local color. I'm willing to spend a few bucks but tend to stay in budget accommodations BAC, the fundamental problem is that the most and best wildlife views are inside protected areas, and you cannot get in there without a car. Moreover, accommodation in and nearby nature reserves is relatively expensive, unless you camp out on your own. By the way, if things don't work out well I would recommend to take it easy and put the gorillas off for a later second visit. The gorilla visit is more on the difficult side and not obviously the best thing to do on a first time visit. Hans-Georg -- No mail, please. |
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On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 17:43:43 +0100, Hans-Georg Michna wrote:
to go from Nairobi to Mwanza, then cross the lake into Uganda, seems like an intentional detour. :-) I mean, once you're in Nairobi there's absolutely no need to go to the other side of the Lake, then cross it back again. One would not purposely go from Nairobi to Mwanza and then cross into Uganda. If you are starting in Nairobi and want to end up in Zanzibar with minimal back tracking the routing might look like this: Nairobi - Kampala (by road) Kampala - Bwindi See gorillas Bwindi - Kampala Kampala - Mwanza (Cross Lake Victoria) Mwanza - Arusha Safari Arusha - Dar Es Salaam Dar Es Salaam - Zanzibar If the roads were good and ferry were still running, going through Mwanza would be both more direct and more fun than passing through Nairobi a second time. It also saves on visas if you end up going all the way to Rwanda rather than seeing the gorillas in Bwindi. -- Photos and travelogues from Africa and Southeast Asia: http://www.exile.org |
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On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 11:12:25 GMT, Liz wrote:
In message (Eric Edwards) wrote: As far as I know, all the gorilla venues are US$ cash only. That's my info, and the last time I checked, it was $200 per day. Rwanda was $250 in 2002. Bwindi, at least, is now up to $270. -- Photos and travelogues from Africa and Southeast Asia: http://www.exile.org |
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On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 18:17:48 GMT, Liz wrote:
In message (Eric Edwards) wrote: Rwanda was $250 in 2002. Bwindi, at least, is now up to $270. Aaah. One of the brochures I was looking at had trips in Rwanda and Uganda, and I noticed they were priced at "£XXXX plus permits". I can see why! (I hope the money goes directly to protecting the gorillas.) I don't know the breakdown, but some of it goes to the nearby villages. The principle is that the local people need to benefit from gorilla tourism else they will be inclined to extract their benefit via poaching. -- Photos and travelogues from Africa and Southeast Asia: http://www.exile.org |
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(Eric Edwards) wrote: On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 18:17:48 GMT, Liz wrote: In message (Eric Edwards) wrote: Rwanda was $250 in 2002. Bwindi, at least, is now up to $270. Aaah. One of the brochures I was looking at had trips in Rwanda and Uganda, and I noticed they were priced at "£XXXX plus permits". I can see why! (I hope the money goes directly to protecting the gorillas.) I don't know the breakdown, but some of it goes to the nearby villages. The principle is that the local people need to benefit from gorilla tourism else they will be inclined to extract their benefit via poaching. That's still 'directly protecting the gorillas'. :-))) I hope they don't run into the same problems they faced in Tanzania. (I *think* it was Serengeti) they tried to benefit the local population directly adjoining the Park by funding schools and clinics with some of the entry money, but people came in from a long way off to benefit too, which caused environmental overload to the local area. Liz -- Virtual Liz at http://www.v-liz.co.uk Kenya; Tanzania; India; Seychelles; Namibia "I speak of Africa and golden joys" |
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Thanks, Hans....I agree. Too much to see in too little time. Looks like I'm
going to focus on Tanzania. A week or more on Zanzibar and Pemba Is to do some sun, fun and diving. A week in the bush...I'll go to Arusha and look for a safari that will give me some time in the parks (not driving to and from), would prefer a tent safari. I'd also have never hot air ballooned....why not do it above the Serengeti? Possibly a 3 day hike to the top of MT Meru (don't think my knees will take Mt. Killi. I'll lose some time in traveling to/from Tanzania, hanging out, decompressing, checking out Dar es Salaam and travel in country....7 days?? And I'd like to get up to Eastern Tsavo in Kenya but that might be a dream.......all in all, that will eat up 4 weeks. How's that sound for a trip? Looks like I'll have to dig deep for the bucks but what the hell, why not. Anyone have any input? "Hans-Georg Michna" wrote in message ... "BAC" wrote: I'm looking for a new experience, to see the wild life and local color. I'm willing to spend a few bucks but tend to stay in budget accommodations BAC, the fundamental problem is that the most and best wildlife views are inside protected areas, and you cannot get in there without a car. Moreover, accommodation in and nearby nature reserves is relatively expensive, unless you camp out on your own. By the way, if things don't work out well I would recommend to take it easy and put the gorillas off for a later second visit. The gorilla visit is more on the difficult side and not obviously the best thing to do on a first time visit. Hans-Georg -- No mail, please. |
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"BAC" wrote:
Thanks, Hans....I agree. Too much to see in too little time. Looks like I'm going to focus on Tanzania. A week or more on Zanzibar and Pemba Is to do some sun, fun and diving. A week in the bush...I'll go to Arusha and look for a safari that will give me some time in the parks (not driving to and from), would prefer a tent safari. I'd also have never hot air ballooned....why not do it above the Serengeti? Possibly a 3 day hike to the top of MT Meru (don't think my knees will take Mt. Killi. I'll lose some time in traveling to/from Tanzania, hanging out, decompressing, checking out Dar es Salaam and travel in country....7 days?? And I'd like to get up to Eastern Tsavo in Kenya but that might be a dream.......all in all, that will eat up 4 weeks. How's that sound for a trip? Looks like I'll have to dig deep for the bucks but what the hell, why not. Anyone have any input? Actually I'd think of further reducing the width to increase the depth, if you know what I mean. Skip Tsavo East, that's not a good place for a first trip. The pearls of Kenya are Samburu, Maasai Mara and perhaps Amboseli. But the Serengeti is adjacent to Maasai Mara, so you really don't have to visit both. The pearl of Tanzania is the Ngorongoro Crater, but Tanzania is big and has quite a few more very beautiful places. Hans-Georg -- No mail, please. |
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Hans-Georg Michna wrote: "BAC" wrote: Thanks, Hans....I agree. Too much to see in too little time. Looks like I'm going to focus on Tanzania. A week or more on Zanzibar and Pemba Is to do some sun, fun and diving. A week in the bush...I'll go to Arusha and look for a safari that will give me some time in the parks (not driving to and from), would prefer a tent safari. I'd also have never hot air ballooned....why not do it above the Serengeti? Hmmmm Jury's out on the ballooning. It's *very* expensive, and you only get about an hour in the air. Sometime you see stuff, sometimes not, like any game viewing - but the animals are usually running away from you. Your choice, of course, but if budget's a big deal, or even a deal, maybe save your once-in-a-lifetime balloon trip for sailing over the dunes in Namibia? Possibly a 3 day hike to the top of MT Meru (don't think my knees will take Mt. Killi. I'll lose some time in traveling to/from Tanzania, hanging out, decompressing, checking out Dar es Salaam and travel in country....7 days?? And I'd like to get up to Eastern Tsavo in Kenya but that might be a dream.......all in all, that will eat up 4 weeks. How's that sound for a trip? Looks like I'll have to dig deep for the bucks but what the hell, why not. Anyone have any input? Actually I'd think of further reducing the width to increase the depth, if you know what I mean. Skip Tsavo East, that's not a good place for a first trip. Yeah, I wondered about that too. Did you ('BAC') have any reason for fancying Tsavo East? The pearls of Kenya are Samburu, Maasai Mara and perhaps Amboseli. But the Serengeti is adjacent to Maasai Mara, so you really don't have to visit both. The pearl of Tanzania is the Ngorongoro Crater, but Tanzania is big and has quite a few more very beautiful places. Agreed. Amboseli is relatively easy to get to from Arusha via Namanga, but really as long as your safari trip in Serengeti is at the right time (otherwise skip it and spend the time in Ngorongoro) you might be better to stay in Tanzania, or if you really want to include Kenya, and pay the extra visa, unless that has changed again, try for Samburu, but that's adding extra time if by road, or expense if flying. Liz -- Virtual Liz at http://www.v-liz.co.uk Kenya; Tanzania; India; Seychelles; Namibia "I speak of Africa and golden joys" |
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