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Following up to Tchiowa

What physics teacher would say that cold means hot and vice versa?

Every physics teacher would. Learn what heat means. Hot and cold are
relative terms, not absolute, that pertain to the amount of heat a body
has.

only if a pedant. Believe it or not words often have different
everyday and scientific meanings. Even physicist understand what
is meant be "hot" and "cold" in everyday usage
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Following up to Tchiowa

Good, so even you cannot totally shut out reality.

Apparently you can. Or at least you try.

Er, no, you are confsuing me with you. I'm not the one pretending
the majority of scientists have got it wrong. If you go back
thruogh the posts I'm sure you will find it was fairly obvious
the we are discussing the effects of man made global warming.

But none, I repeat *NONE*, argue that global warming has not been going
on for over 10,000 years.

so what?

So what??? When I said "Weren't you aware that global warming has been
going on for over 10,000 years?" you responded "do you ever wonder why
the worlds scientists think otherwise?"

sigh, youre playing with the words. The *point* is that *man*
*made* global warming is accepted to be a fact by most
scientists. You are only muddying the water because you dont want
to accept the fact.

Are you so locked into arguing blacks white that you
want "man made" added to every mention of warming or you will
start stamping your feet?

Are you or aren't you aware that there is a difference?

of course I am, numbnuts.
I am pointing to the concensus that man made global warming is
happening.
You are nit picking words.
That says a lot.
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Following up to The Reid

only if a pedant. Believe it or not words often have different
everyday and scientific meanings. Even physicist understand what
is meant be "hot" and "cold" in everyday usage

1000 posts now, not bad, can we do 2000?
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On 25 Jul 2006 02:41:34 -0700, "Tchiowa" wrote:


Dave Frightens Me wrote:
On 24 Jul 2006 15:24:45 -0700, "Al Czervik"
wrote:


Dave Frightens Me wrote:
On Sat, 22 Jul 2006 02:49:50 +0200, Mxsmanic
wrote:

Dave Frightens Me writes:

Your logic is broken. No-one said anything about heating.

You say that education can compensate for excessive heat. Logically,
then, education can also compensate for excessive cold. Thus, there's
no more need for heating systems than there is for air conditioning
systems.

As cold does not mean hot, your logic is broken.

Believe it or not, they are two very different things.

No they aren't - ask a physics teacher.

What physics teacher would say that cold means hot and vice versa?

Every physics teacher would. Learn what heat means.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=hot
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=cold

Gosh, they are different. Who woulda thunk it?
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Following up to Dave Frightens Me

Every physics teacher would. Learn what heat means.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=hot
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=cold

Gosh, they are different. Who woulda thunk it?

I think they didnt spot the difference between "hot" and "cold"
and "heat", or are they just arsing about?
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Dave Frightens Me writes:

Sit directly in front of a fan with the window open, and it's an
effective way to stay cool.

Unfortunately, it's not an effective way to do anything else.

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Mxsmanic wrote:

Dave Frightens Me writes:

Sit directly in front of a fan with the window open, and it's an
effective way to stay cool.

Unfortunately, it's not an effective way to do anything else.

That depends on what else you might want to do. You could watch the
world outside, read a book, work or play at a computer, eat, sip a
drink, converse if you are in company, many other possibilities.

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Mxsmanic wrote:
Dave Frightens Me writes:

Sit directly in front of a fan with the window open, and it's an
effective way to stay cool.

Unfortunately, it's not an effective way to do anything else.


It's perfect to sit in front of a computer and talk on the telephone,
which makes most office work possible.


J.

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
...
The Reid writes:

you're argument is about humidity, remember?

It's about both. Fans are no more useful than evaporative cooling
(swamp coolers).

Mxmanic, aside from being more than a little demented, you are so full of
**** as to be incroyable.

In substantial parts of the world, "swamp coolers" are not only useful but
provide substantial "cooling". Cities such as El Paso and Albuquerque have
many "high dollar" homes with rooftop "swamp coolers", and until Phoenix set
out to humidify the community, lakes, sprinklers and massive introduction of
surface water, they worked well there....No more. Not very good in Florida
or Houston, however, and even in drier climes, you may need to move the
clothes about in your closet frequently to prevent mildew

As for the madness of mxsmanic, I check the world's weather a couple of
times in the past few days, and compared to any number of US cities, some of
which feature actual people outdoors in all hours of the day and night,
Paris was positively cool with low humidity. Certainly, many of the more
"modern" buildings of the city ( the unairconditioned sort built since the
reign of the Sun King) with flat dark roofs and minimal operating windows
(or veryt small ones) and no center ventilation shafts (that's what a court
yeard is....) are going to be uncomfortable on hot days, and the city's
buildings, jammed together to block Winter winds, serve well to block Summer
breezes. Part of the Mixed Manic's problem is his pose as an anchorite
revelling in a cave-like hermitage of isolation, his musty gareet up under
the eaves, so frightened of human contact that he has too little common
sense to go to the nearest park and sit under a tree, wetting his bandanna
and wrapping it about his forehead and removing his heavy denim overall in
exchange for a light cotton shirt, so that he can pour a bit of cool water
over head and shirt and cool his fevered brow and brain.

On the other hand, I can recall being in an unheated aprtment in Aix en
Provence one Winter many decades ago (while stuck ashore in Mareseilles,
since "boating had been cancelled" due to rough water for the naval vessels
anchored in the harbor). I don't know if Paris is cold, but Aix was so cold
that I had to burrow into the warm envelopment of a plump girl from Chicago,
an exchange student with whom I exchanged....

Other than the Boston Navy Yard with "cold iron", all boilers secured and no
heat in the ship, and at sea off Tromso, Norway, not much below freezing,
but with every wave causing ice to build up on the foc'sle, Aix was about
the coldest place (but with the warmest heart) I've ever experienced....

The hottest.....unloading and weighing grain during the Summer Harvest at an
elevator a few miles North of Corpus Christi, one of those days when the
thermometer had already passed "flirting" with 100F, but that with the bay
but a few miles away, the humidity was about to dance with saturation....

As to whether "heat" or "cold" exist or are but the absence of the other,
scientific perspective seems to generally hold with the "Heat's the thing,
and Cold the lack of it." perspective. In the distilling process to purify
water, one adds heat to it to cause evaporation, then removes the heat to
condense the purer distillate. Public opinion generally holds that ice
makers remove heat, but don't add cold.

That's a suggestion, Mixed Maniac.....Buy an icemaker for your refrigerator,
and store a few wet towels in the freezing compartment alongside. Soon,
other than frezzer burn, you'll not be so botherd by the refractory furnace
which you describe your tiny flat to be. But then, those Uropeen
Refrig/freezers are about the size of a little Igloo ice chest and wouldn't
hold a case of Bud Light anda dozen aigs, and apartment ovens (if you have
an oven) in Paris barely hold a roasting chicken, much less a turkey like
mxsmaic.