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Mxsmanic wrote:
mrtravel writes:


So, it doesn't make a difference to you if it is 23 or 50?


Neither temperature is really acceptable. A temperature of 23° C is
more survivable, but survivability is not the only criterion that must
be satisfied.

A temperature of 23 degrees Celsius (73.4F) is unbearable to you?
You didn't say one was more acceptable. You said beyond 22 or so was too
hot and how hot wasn't important.




It's rather like asking whether 2 feet of water or 4 feet of water are
preferable in the streets of New Orleans. The only acceptable level
of water is zero.


Comparing 23 degrees to 50 degrees isn't like comparing the water levels
mentioned, since 23 isn't an abnormal temperature, and 2 feet of water
would be abnormal. It would be like having an inch or two in the street
compared to 5 feet of water.

On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 23:32:39 +0200, Mxsmanic
wrote:

Miguel Cruz writes:

The reason for this is pretty simple: People know that heating is more
necessary than cooling for comfortable and productive living, within the
range of temperatures that are normally experienced in inhabited areas.

Which inhabited areas? Most of the world's population these days
lives in warm or hot climates.

Please, let this thread die!

wrote:

On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 23:32:39 +0200, Mxsmanic
wrote:


Miguel Cruz writes:


The reason for this is pretty simple: People know that heating is more
necessary than cooling for comfortable and productive living, within the
range of temperatures that are normally experienced in inhabited areas.

Which inhabited areas? Most of the world's population these days
lives in warm or hot climates.


Please, let this thread die!

Sure, whatever you say.
Do you think your extension of the thread is a good example for letting
it die?

Following up to Al Smith

The Northwest Passage will open and become
a viable shipping route. Greenland will become habitable again. So
will Labrador, for that matter. Yes, folks, a field of clover will
stretch from the Great Lakes to the North Pole. Now's the time to
invest in some of that green.

avoid low lying land.
--
Mike Reid
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Following up to Tchiowa

No, the statement was global warming, period. You were completely wrong
in your statement. If you made an unwarranted assumption as to the
topic then simply acknowledge it and move on. Your repeated attempts to
justify your incorrect statement are kind of, well, childish. See
below.

OK, you choose to wilfully misunderstand my meaning, presumably
thinking point scoring here will alter real life. Let get it
simple:-

Do you acknowledge *man* *made* global warming is happening and
is a problem? Yes or no?
That is the point.

Let's make it clear again: there is a difference between natural global
warming, which is proven scientific fact, and a potential man-made
component adding to that process, which is a different topic
altogether.

nope, its the one we are discussing but the one you seek to
avoid. The context is one of excessive consumerism and industrial
pollution causing big increases in warming, apparently you think
that meant we talking about "naturally" occurring phenomena.

If it was "no"

I repeat my original comment:-
"do you ever wonder why the worlds scientists think otherwise?"

If it is "yes" I congratulate you on starting to see the problems
of the future rather than fight yesterdays wars with what you
call "socialism".
--
Mike Reid
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Following up to orange flamingo

For some reason it seems most humans don't seem to mind the heat, but
are scared to death of even a little cold.

I've lived most of my life in the American South. I hate the heat,
and anything over 80F is hot to me. I love the cold, but not below
freezing (32F). However, I seem to be in the minority.

count me in (and my wife), except below freezing is fine for some
things, where snow is desirable, like hill walking. I find damp
weather just above zero to be as unpleasant as temps above 80F,
while below zero eliminates humidity.
--
Mike Reid
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Following up to Dave Frightens Me

You do get used to it after a while. It helps if you stop thinking
about it,

hard to do if your clothes are sticking to you. There's no
getting away from the fact its easy to combat cold with good
clothing but there's no way of combating heat. I love climbing
mountains in snow and cold, in summer heat its an exhausting slog
+ the air quality and sun angle usually preclude worthwhile
photography.

Sitting around in the shade with a drink ogling scantily clad
girls is OK though.
--
Mike Reid
Walk-eat-photos UK "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" -- you can email us@ this site
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The Reid wrote:
Following up to orange flamingo


For some reason it seems most humans don't seem to mind the heat, but
are scared to death of even a little cold.

I've lived most of my life in the American South. I hate the heat,
and anything over 80F is hot to me. I love the cold, but not below
freezing (32F). However, I seem to be in the minority.


count me in (and my wife), except below freezing is fine for some
things, where snow is desirable, like hill walking. I find damp
weather just above zero to be as unpleasant as temps above 80F,
while below zero eliminates humidity.

You can have low humidity above 0.

You know the saying, "but it's a dry heat"

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
...
TOliver writes:

As for the Mixed Maniac's 33C with 31% humidity, that's positively
salubrious, cool enough to play tennis or 18 holes in the afternoon, so
dry
that the sweat disappears before you feel it dripping from your brow.

And you develop hyperthermia and pass out without any warning.

You mean like those hundreds of thousands of people rushed to
the emergency rooms from the beaches of the Med every summer

Keith



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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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mrtravel writes:

So, it doesn't make a difference to you if it is 23 or 50?

Neither temperature is really acceptable. A temperature of 23° C is
more survivable, but survivability is not the only criterion that must
be satisfied.


23º C is relatively cool.

It's rather like asking whether 2 feet of water or 4 feet of water are
preferable in the streets of New Orleans. The only acceptable level
of water is zero.



What about in Venice?

JohnT