Count On....

Berkeley going car-free sometime in the near future. Its streets will
be shut down to cars and an organization will turn the city into a car-free
city. This is common knowledge in Berkeley and around the San Francisco
region. San Francisco is also going car-free as is San Jose. Portland, Port
Townsend, Washington, and Seattle are also going car-free.

"Steve Austin" wrote in news:XmV%b.1297$xI4.79422
@news.uswest.net:
Berkeley going car-free sometime in the near future. Its streets will
be shut down to cars and an organization will turn the city into a car-free
city. This is common knowledge in Berkeley and around the San Francisco
region.

Didn't we just invade Iraq to keep gasoline prices cheap? Car-free ain't
gonna happen.

"Jerry Rubin" wrote in message
...
"Steve Austin" wrote in news:XmV%b.1297$xI4.79422
@news.uswest.net:
Berkeley going car-free sometime in the near future. Its streets
will
be shut down to cars and an organization will turn the city into a
car-free
city. This is common knowledge in Berkeley and around the San Francisco
region.

Didn't we just invade Iraq to keep gasoline prices cheap? Car-free ain't
gonna happen.

No, you misunderstand. He meant that cars are going to be free!

g

"Steve Austin" wrote in message
...
Berkeley going car-free sometime in the near future. Its streets will
be shut down to cars and an organization will turn the city into a
car-free
city. This is common knowledge in Berkeley and around the San Francisco
region. San Francisco is also going car-free as is San Jose. Portland,
Port
Townsend, Washington, and Seattle are also going car-free.

What the hell possesses you to keep posting this crap? Are you THAT starved
for attention?

Stan de SD wrote:

"Steve Austin" wrote in message
...


Berkeley going car-free sometime in the near future. Its streets will
be shut down to cars and an organization will turn the city into a


car-free


city. This is common knowledge in Berkeley and around the San Francisco
region. San Francisco is also going car-free as is San Jose. Portland,


Port


Townsend, Washington, and Seattle are also going car-free.



What the hell possesses you to keep posting this crap? Are you THAT starved
for attention?


This is not a crazy idea. Many cities in Europe have made large parts of
downtown virtually "car-free" already. Den Haag (The Hague) is one example.

Thom

ThomJeff wrote:

Stan de SD wrote:

"Steve Austin" wrote in message
...

Berkeley going car-free sometime in the near future. Its streets will
be shut down to cars and an organization will turn the city into a
car-free city. This is common knowledge in Berkeley and around the San Francisco
region. San Francisco is also going car-free as is San Jose. Portland,
Port Townsend, Washington, and Seattle are also going car-free.

What the hell possesses you to keep posting this crap? Are you THAT
starved
for attention?

This is not a crazy idea. Many cities in Europe have made large parts of
downtown virtually "car-free" already. Den Haag (The Hague) is one example.
Thom

As stated it is a crazy idea. The twerp is not talking about a few
blocks of shopping street but, instead, making the entire city car free.
And doing this within this decade.

It is nuts. Even for europe. FFM

Jerry Rubin wrote:
Didn't we just invade Iraq to keep gasoline prices cheap?

Nope. If we did it for anyone's private benefit it's Halliburton.

Gas prices aren't going to fall anytime soon; if it looks like they are,
one of the oil companies will "suffer another fire" at a California
refinery to give them an excuse to raise the price again.

"John David Galt" wrote in message
.. .
Jerry Rubin wrote:
Didn't we just invade Iraq to keep gasoline prices cheap?

Nope. If we did it for anyone's private benefit it's Halliburton.

Gas prices aren't going to fall anytime soon; if it looks like they are,
one of the oil companies will "suffer another fire" at a California
refinery to give them an excuse to raise the price again.

In fairness, the tiny oligopoly of refineries in this state is largely due
to the eco-fiends. I am sure Tosco, Tesoro, or any of the more prominent oil
company refiners would be happy to have more refining capacity so they could
process and sell a larger volume. The real bottleneck in California is
refining capacity.



Nick Byram (Bay Area Exile)
Antelope, CA

In 1959, Nikita Khrushchev saw his first U.S. interstate freeway and said he
was shocked by the waste of time, money, and effort. In his country, "there
was little need for such roads because the Soviet people lived close
together, did not care for automobiles, and seldom moved."

"ThomJeff" wrote in message
...


Stan de SD wrote:

"Steve Austin" wrote in message
...


Berkeley going car-free sometime in the near future. Its streets
will
be shut down to cars and an organization will turn the city into a


car-free


city. This is common knowledge in Berkeley and around the San Francisco
region. San Francisco is also going car-free as is San Jose. Portland,


Port


Townsend, Washington, and Seattle are also going car-free.



What the hell possesses you to keep posting this crap? Are you THAT
starved
for attention?

This is not a crazy idea. Many cities in Europe have made large parts of
downtown virtually "car-free" already. Den Haag (The Hague) is one
example.

My reference wasn't necessarily to the IDEA (although I submit it is
questionable in many cases). Steve Austin habitually posts falsehoods,
typically under the header "Breaking News!!!" stating that a bunch of cities
are about to go car-free, even when there's nothing to that effect, and
others have called him on it. Do a bit of research on the unfounded stuff
this guy habitually posts to this NG if you want the hear (as Paul Harvey
says) "the rest of the story".

"ThomJeff" wrote in message
...
Stan de SD wrote:
"ThomJeff" wrote in message
...


Stan de SD wrote:


"Steve Austin" wrote in message
...



Berkeley going car-free sometime in the near future. Its streets

will

be shut down to cars and an organization will turn the city into a



car-free



city. This is common knowledge in Berkeley and around the San
Francisco
region. San Francisco is also going car-free as is San Jose. Portland,



Port



Townsend, Washington, and Seattle are also going car-free.



What the hell possesses you to keep posting this crap? Are you THAT

starved

for attention?

This is not a crazy idea. Many cities in Europe have made large parts of
downtown virtually "car-free" already. Den Haag (The Hague) is one

example.

My reference wasn't necessarily to the IDEA (although I submit it is
questionable in many cases). Steve Austin habitually posts falsehoods,
typically under the header "Breaking News!!!" stating that a bunch of
cities
are about to go car-free, even when there's nothing to that effect, and
others have called him on it. Do a bit of research on the unfounded
stuff
this guy habitually posts to this NG if you want the hear (as Paul
Harvey
says) "the rest of the story".


Understood.

No problem. Thanks for your understanding. :O)