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Jews Strive To Restore Christmas Trees At Seattle Airport
Tchiowa wrote:
Mike Hunt wrote: The issue isn't that the Rabbi wanted the Christmas ornaments removed, but he wanted representation of his religion a this public facility. That request was denied, even though the last Supreme Court case on the subject agreed with the Rabbi. The fact that the airport management took down the Christmas ornaments leads me to believe that they knew they were in violation of that ruling . Why didn't they simply allow the Menorah to be displayed? Could it be they are anti-semitic Could it be because the official national holiday is Christmas, not Hannukah? Putting up a menorrah for Christmas makes no more sense than putting up an Easter Bunny for Halloween. Wrong holiday. Should there be a Jewish holiday? Should the US have a holiday for the Eid that ends Ramadan? Maybe. But that's another issue. We have a holiday that celebrates Christmas and like it our not this is a Christian holiday. If someone doesn't like it he doesn't have to participate. But unless you want to try to ban Christmas then people should grow up and leave it alone. How can you not "participate"? Christians and other fans of the holiday -- especially merchants -- run the holiday down your throat, starting in late October. Since the holiday is really about spending money you don't have to buy stuff no one wants, it really ought to be called Consumermas or Capitalismmas. It is true a fairy tale about a religious figure or two is associated with it, but no one seems to take them very seriously except as magic dolls. http://www.xmasresistance.org |
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Jews Strive To Restore Christmas Trees At Seattle Airport
Anarcissie wrote:
Tchiowa wrote: How can you not "participate"? Christians and other fans of the holiday -- especially merchants -- run the holiday down your throat, starting in late October. Not around here. There were some serious sales displays in early October this year. |
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Jews Strive To Restore Christmas Trees At Seattle Airport
On 12-Dec-2006, "Sancho Panza" wrote: "Mxsmanic" wrote in message ... writes: Except for that holy day of obligation & all that. I've never heard of that. What is it? It's what Xmas is. We are not frightened by this age-old, and still lame, threat. "We"? It's not a threat, it's an observation. Oh, yeah, I believe that. If you want people to like you, you should avoid doing things that alienate them. Which is not really what was said, either - but is still a threat, given that he refuses to apply it the other way around. Is that referring to Christians, Jews, Muslims or just who? He'll pretend it's all people, but it's something that his ilk has told Jews time and again. "Behave or we'll kill you", "behave" meaning "accept any crap we throw at you." Susan |
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Jews Strive To Restore Christmas Trees At Seattle Airport
On 12-Dec-2006, "Sancho Panza" wrote: "Mxsmanic" wrote in message ... Sancho Panza writes: Is that referring to Christians, Jews, Muslims or just who? It refers to human beings in general. Very few people are capable of being kind and fair to people they dislike. Do Jews or Buddhists or Taoists "dislike" the other groups in the sense that they are "disliked" by others? And why is it that he refuses to aplly to XIans what he is, in this instance, applying to Jews (& only pretending to apply to others)? Why is it that he automatically puts Xians in the place of doling out the kindness and "others" in the poition of EARNING it - and NOT the other way around. Susan |
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Jews Strive To Restore Christmas Trees At Seattle Airport
On 12-Dec-2006, "Anarcissie" wrote: I think it is funny the way Christians talk about a "war against Christmas" when in fact Christmas is a Christian war against everybody else. Of course. Same as when they scream that "their rights are being violated". It's *always* a case of their "rights" to force their religion on everyone else. Susan |
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Jews Strive To Restore Christmas Trees At Seattle Airport
On 12-Dec-2006, James A. Donald wrote: Mike Hunt The issue isn't that the Rabbi wanted the Christmas ornaments removed, but he wanted representation of his religion a this public facility. Christmas is a universal celebration, No, it is not. The fact that some people have secularized it changes nothing. Any XIan who is insulted by "Happy Holidays" is exactly the sort of arrogant bigot we are complaining about. Susan |
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Jews Strive To Restore Christmas Trees At Seattle Airport
On 12-Dec-2006, James A. Donald wrote: "James A. Donald" Christmas is a universal celebration, heavily celebrated by pagans such as Chinese and Japanese. It is intended to be universal. "Sancho Panza" A noble sentiment, but far far far from anywhere near reality. Observe Singapore at Christmas time. Which means only that they have taken the secular aspects they like and abandoned the rest - which is the real affront to Xmas. Christmas is universal, except among those nursing grievances against Christianity and Christians. Anyone who thinks this is the one nursing grievances. Susan |
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Jews Strive To Restore Christmas Trees At Seattle Airport
On 12-Dec-2006, James A. Donald wrote: Mike Hunt The issue isn't that the Rabbi wanted the Christmas ornaments removed, but he wanted representation of his religion a this public facility. That request was denied, even though the last Supreme Court case on the subject agreed with the Rabbi. This may come as a big surprise, but some people do not want to spend several million dollars on litigation. So they should have accomodated him they they*should* have. There was no possibility of a settlement. There was no initial threat of a lawsuit, either. I read the article - you obviously didn't. If they gave him less than he wants, they go to court. If they give him everything he wants, everyone lines up asking for a piece of the action. IOW, rather than be asinclusive as they should be, they screwed the Xians. Susan |
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Jews Strive To Restore Christmas Trees At Seattle Airport
"Mxsmanic" wrote in message ... Mike Hunt writes: For many Jewish people, the same is true of Hanukah Then there should be no problem trading it for a similar holiday at a similar time of year. Especially since the majority of the population prefers Christmas trees to menorahs. ****, I'd rather have a menorah. Doesn't take up my entire living room, doesn't need to be watered and doesn't shed pine needles all over the freakin' floor. -- Robyn Resident Witchypoo #1557 I think religion is so popular because even the village idiot can feel like Einstein without any effort. - Denis Loubet |
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