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Eliat, Israel
Go Fig wrote:
The Jessica Lynch story could have been filmed in a studio. The coverage was superb! Never mind the facts when you can make a heroine out of an incompetent, How exactly is she incompetent ? It seems that the story about her valiant fight, her wounds , her bad treatment by the Iraqis and perilous rescue was a total fabrication by the US administration. She was in a convoy that got lost and bumbled into an ambush. She was injured when her truck ran off the road. The Iraqi doctors tried to take good care of her and tried to get her back to US lines, but we fired upon by US troops. She was not shot. She was not raped. There was no need for the US troops to kick down all the doors in the hospital. To be fair, I suppose it is better to be safe than sorry. Even so, it is a sad comment on the administration when the only soldier in their entire operation who billed nationally and internationally as a great hero is just some chump in a support outfit whose demise was the result of gross incompetence in a combat situation. She is very lucky to have survived and I don't envy her for what she went through, but she is far from a hero. To call her a hero is an insult to the brave deeds of those who truly are heroes. |
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Eliat, Israel
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Dave Smith wrote: Go Fig wrote: The Jessica Lynch story could have been filmed in a studio. The coverage was superb! Never mind the facts when you can make a heroine out of an incompetent, How exactly is she incompetent ? It seems that the story about her valiant fight, her wounds , her bad treatment by the Iraqis and perilous rescue was a total fabrication by the US administration. She was in a convoy that got lost and bumbled into an ambush. She was injured when her truck ran off the road. The Iraqi doctors tried to take good care of her and tried to get her back to US lines, but we fired upon by US troops. She was not shot. She was not raped. This is contrary to what she implies in her book, what the U.S. medical doctor that examined her. What is your source ? There was no need for the US troops to kick down all the doors in the hospital. To be fair, I suppose it is better to be safe than sorry. What was the basement in this hospital being used for ? Even so, it is a sad comment on the administration when the only soldier in their entire operation who billed nationally and internationally as a great hero is just some chump in a support outfit whose demise was the result of gross incompetence in a combat situation. OK, what is the 'gross incompetence' ? jay Thu, Nov 13, 2003 She is very lucky to have survived and I don't envy her for what she went through, but she is far from a hero. To call her a hero is an insult to the brave deeds of those who truly are heroes. -- Legend insists that as he finished his abject... Galileo muttered under his breath: "Nevertheless, it does move." |
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Eliat, Israel
"Thomas F. Unke" wrote in message ... Dave Smith writes: what she went through, but she is far from a hero. To call her a hero is an insult to the brave deeds of those who truly are heroes. The only heros are the Iraqis who suffer an incredible loss of human lives and still resist the brutal occupation. I don't see anything heroic to be led by idiots whether Iraqi or American. |
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Eliat, Israel
Thomas F. Unke wrote:
Dave Smith writes: what she went through, but she is far from a hero. To call her a hero is an insult to the brave deeds of those who truly are heroes. The only heros are the Iraqis who suffer an incredible loss of human lives and still resist the brutal occupation. --------- You mean heros like Saddam ? Kristian |
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Eliat, Israel
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Thomas F. Unke wrote: Dave Smith writes: what she went through, but she is far from a hero. To call her a hero is an insult to the brave deeds of those who truly are heroes. The only heros are the Iraqis who suffer an incredible loss of human lives and still resist the brutal occupation. Just how long does it take to polish your knee high black boots ? jay Thu, Nov 13, 2003 -- Legend insists that as he finished his abject... Galileo muttered under his breath: "Nevertheless, it does move." |
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Eliat, Israel
Go Fig wrote:
It seems that the story about her valiant fight, her wounds , her bad treatment by the Iraqis and perilous rescue was a total fabrication by the US administration. She was in a convoy that got lost and bumbled into an ambush. She was injured when her truck ran off the road. The Iraqi doctors tried to take good care of her and tried to get her back to US lines, but we fired upon by US troops. She was not shot. She was not raped. This is contrary to what she implies in her book, what the U.S. medical doctor that examined her. What is your source ? I have a news paper article from just yesterday, an Associated Press report of an interview with her on Veterans Day. She denied reports of her fierce gun battle, saying that her gun was jammed and she never fired a shot. She contradicts reports that the rescue raid encountered resistance saying that the Iraqis did not offer any resistance and even offered the troops a key. She said that the doctors and nurses were thoughtful, gentle people who secretly tried to see her to freedom. The article also reports that Iraqi doctors denied the claims that she had been sexually assaulted. While US army doctors may claim other wise I would suggest that since Lynch's statements tend to back up the doctors' claims about most other things and that the army has obviously fabricated just about everything else, it becomes a matter of credibility, and that the Iraqi medical staff and Lynch have proved themselves to be infinitely more credible. There was no need for the US troops to kick down all the doors in the hospital. To be fair, I suppose it is better to be safe than sorry. What was the basement in this hospital being used for ? Good question. I don't doubt that propaganda reports would be trying to claim that their were arms hidden in it. Given the proven lack of credibility of the army's version of the story I give that report as much credit as it may be worth...none. OK, what is the 'gross incompetence' ? They were lost. Her gun was jammed. |
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Eliat, Israel
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:46:16 +0100, Kristian
wrote: Thomas F. Unke wrote: Dave Smith writes: what she went through, but she is far from a hero. To call her a hero is an insult to the brave deeds of those who truly are heroes. The only heros are the Iraqis who suffer an incredible loss of human lives and still resist the brutal occupation. --------- You mean heros like Saddam ? Kristian And heros like Osama? Who wouldn't even risk his life on a death mission, like those putzes who flew the jets? Wimpy. |
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Eliat, Israel
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Dave Smith wrote: Go Fig wrote: It seems that the story about her valiant fight, her wounds , her bad treatment by the Iraqis and perilous rescue was a total fabrication by the US administration. She was in a convoy that got lost and bumbled into an ambush. She was injured when her truck ran off the road. The Iraqi doctors tried to take good care of her and tried to get her back to US lines, but we fired upon by US troops. She was not shot. She was not raped. This is contrary to what she implies in her book, what the U.S. medical doctor that examined her. What is your source ? What length do you have your word wrap set to ? I have a news paper article from just yesterday, an Associated Press report of an interview with her on Veterans Day. She denied reports of her fierce gun battle, saying that her gun was jammed and she never fired a shot. She contradicts reports that the rescue raid encountered resistance saying that the Iraqis did not offer any resistance and even offered the troops a key. What reports of resistance, none were made. Either at the time or now. She said that the doctors and nurses were thoughtful, gentle people who secretly tried to see her to freedom. The article also reports that Iraqi doctors denied the claims that she had been sexually assaulted. While US army doctors may claim other wise I would suggest that since Lynch's statements tend to back up the doctors' claims about most other things and that the army has obviously fabricated just about everything else, it becomes a matter of credibility, and that the Iraqi medical staff and Lynch have proved themselves to be infinitely more credible. Really ? I saw and heard the Iraqi Doctor and Nurse (as well as PFC Lynch). He was quite clear, he made NO examination for sexual assault. Do you think that is important? As PFC Lynch is quite clear about not remembering anything from the time of the crash to waking up in the hospital... How can she have credibility on something she can not recall ? In fact, she states that she hopes she will never recall that period. There was no need for the US troops to kick down all the doors in the hospital. To be fair, I suppose it is better to be safe than sorry. What was the basement in this hospital being used for ? Good question. I don't doubt that propaganda reports would be trying to claim that their were arms hidden in it. Given the proven lack of credibility of the army's version of the story I give that report as much credit as it may be worth...none. Then you didn't see video of the basement with boxes of ammo or hear the hospital staff saying that the basement was being used as a military HQ. OK, what is the 'gross incompetence' ? They were lost. Her gun was jammed. Interesting definition, I wonder if you hold yourself to that same standard. jay Thu, Nov 13, 2003 -- Legend insists that as he finished his abject... Galileo muttered under his breath: "Nevertheless, it does move." |
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Eliat, Israel
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says... Just how long does it take to polish your knee high black boots ? And that's a personal attack (actually an insult). -- Alfred Molon ------------------------------ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Olympus4040_5050/ Olympus 5050 resource - http://www.molon.de/5050.html Olympus 5060 resource - http://www.molon.de/5060.html |
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