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US Air jet in the Hudson - Any Ships Trapped?
"Rosalie B." wrote in message ... Kurt Ullman wrote: In article , Sue Mullen wrote: Jean O'Boyle wrote: "Surfer E2468" wrote in message ... That captain & his co-pilot should be given a heroes medal,how many would have stayed on the plane to make sure everyone was out? He was a retired Air Force pilot, Annie! Who had been flying for US Air for 39 years. sue The stat that explained everything. He was a Purdue grad. (g). If he had been flying USAir for 29 years, he didn't retire from the AF. He got out of the AF. Rosalie, that was an error on my part.. He did not retire from the US Air Force....He attended the Air Force Academy, trained to fly fighter planes and then after fulfilling his obligation of seven years in the Air Force, he got out and became a civilian pilot. What I was trying to establish is that he had great Air Force training for a foundation and it showed when he was composed and level headed enough to make that wonderful landing and save every single life. His crew has to be commended highly too. --Jean |
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"Jean O'Boyle" wrote:
"Rosalie B." wrote in message .. . Kurt Ullman wrote: In article , Sue Mullen wrote: Jean O'Boyle wrote: "Surfer E2468" wrote in message ... That captain & his co-pilot should be given a heroes medal,how many would have stayed on the plane to make sure everyone was out? He was a retired Air Force pilot, Annie! Who had been flying for US Air for 39 years. sue The stat that explained everything. He was a Purdue grad. (g). If he had been flying USAir for 29 years, he didn't retire from the AF. He got out of the AF. Rosalie, that was an error on my part.. He did not retire from the US Air Force....He attended the Air Force Academy, trained to fly fighter planes and then after fulfilling his obligation of seven years in the Air Force, he got out and became a civilian pilot. What I was trying to establish is that he had great Air Force training for a foundation and it showed when he was composed and level headed enough to make that wonderful landing and save every single life. His crew has to be commended highly too. He did a good job. My daughter also went to the USAFA although she didn't fly jets - she flew something like a King Air. She did have to make a single engine landing once, and they all came out to see if she would screw it up and do a ground loop, but she didn't. She is now a civilian pilot for AA. But my husband was a Navy pilot for 20 years and he DID retire from the Navy. He had to make the choice as to whether to get out and fly civilian or to stay in until retirement because after 20 years the airlines think you are too old and won't hire you. He picked to stay in. He said that he has had to make a no-engine landing where, when he turned his landing lights on he flew into a flock of gulls and lost all four engines on a P3 (which is a turbo prop). He was on final approach so he said he just went on and landed. He said it was more of a problem when all of the generators failed as he was landing an S2F. |
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US Air jet in the Hudson - Any Ships Trapped?
Just some quick comment. Even if ships were in port they would
probably sailed as scheduled. The area that the plane ditched was north - toward George Washington bridge. It stopped in the water North of the pier and Intrepid then rather quickly floated towards and past ships piers while being guided toward Battery Park seawall area. Currents in the river are fast! The initial area of ditching was one of busiest water ferry areas, Manhattan to NJ which is why so many ferry's could respond as fast as they did. They were manned and ready for rush hour home. I live in suburbs and not real fond of NY City, over priced and over rated in my book, EXCEPT in one area, Emergency services. If you ever have an accident, heart attack, whatever try to have it in NY City. There is no better equipped, faster responding, or better trained emergency services anywhere in the world. Two woman went into the water, one almost slipping away when NYPD divers hit the water. Where else could produce a helicopter with suited cold water divers dropping off it within 8 minutes? Now I heard on TV and also searched for information the following which appears correct. There has NEVER been a successful COMMERCIAL airliner ditching in history of flight. Not talking about going off runway at LGA of smaller aircraft ditching. Talking about a massive jetliner ditching with out breaking up and loss of life. That is yet another reason this pilots ditching is historic. George in NY |
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Rosalie B. wrote: But my husband was a Navy pilot for 20 years and he DID retire from the Navy. He had to make the choice as to whether to get out and fly civilian or to stay in until retirement because after 20 years the airlines think you are too old and won't hire you. He picked to stay in. The airlines also force their pilots to retire when they turn 60 yrs old. This pilot is 57 years of and it was because of his years of experience that he and all his passengers survived. What a shame that in 3 yrs he will be forced to retire. sue |
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US Air jet in the Hudson - Any Ships Trapped?
On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 11:31:09 -0500, Sue Mullen
wrote: The airlines also force their pilots to retire when they turn 60 yrs old. This pilot is 57 years of and it was because of his years of experience that he and all his passengers survived. What a shame that in 3 yrs he will be forced to retire. Hi Sue, As a clarification, President Bush signed a bill back in 2007 that allows U.S. pilots to fly until they are 65. Best regards, Ray LIGHTHOUSE TRAVEL 800-719-9917 or 805-566-3905 http://www.lighthousetravel.com -- |
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US Air jet in the Hudson - Any Ships Trapped?
Ray Goldenberg wrote: On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 11:31:09 -0500, Sue Mullen wrote: The airlines also force their pilots to retire when they turn 60 yrs old. This pilot is 57 years of and it was because of his years of experience that he and all his passengers survived. What a shame that in 3 yrs he will be forced to retire. Hi Sue, As a clarification, President Bush signed a bill back in 2007 that allows U.S. pilots to fly until they are 65. Ray, This may be true, but the commercial airlines still insist on retirement at age 60. A very close friends son-in-law recently turned 60 and was forced to retire. I think he has been doing some non-commercial flights, but am not sure about that. sue |
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US Air jet in the Hudson - Any Ships Trapped?
On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 12:03:13 -0500, Sue Mullen
wrote: This may be true, but the commercial airlines still insist on retirement at age 60. A very close friends son-in-law recently turned 60 and was forced to retire. I think he has been doing some non-commercial flights, but am not sure about that. Hi Sue, I don't think this is true of all commercial airlines but I am not an expert on this subject. I do know some of the Pilot's unions were against the law being passed to allow pilots to fly past 60 which I found very strange. Maybe this incident will enlighten any airline which does have a mandatory age 60 retirement to rethink the policy. Best regards, Ray LIGHTHOUSE TRAVEL 800-719-9917 or 805-566-3905 http://www.lighthousetravel.com -- |
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US Air jet in the Hudson - Any Ships Trapped?
Ray Goldenberg wrote: On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 12:03:13 -0500, Sue Mullen wrote: This may be true, but the commercial airlines still insist on retirement at age 60. A very close friends son-in-law recently turned 60 and was forced to retire. I think he has been doing some non-commercial flights, but am not sure about that. Hi Sue, I don't think this is true of all commercial airlines but I am not an expert on this subject. I do know some of the Pilot's unions were against the law being passed to allow pilots to fly past 60 which I found very strange. Maybe this incident will enlighten any airline which does have a mandatory age 60 retirement to rethink the policy. I will ask my friend next time we talk, but I think her SIL would still be flying commercial if he could. They should rethink the forced retirement and could insist on health and performance checks more frequently after age 60 to be sure the pilots are still ok to fly. sue |
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US Air jet in the Hudson - Any Ships Trapped?
Sue Mullen wrote:
Ray Goldenberg wrote: On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 12:03:13 -0500, Sue Mullen wrote: This may be true, but the commercial airlines still insist on retirement at age 60. A very close friends son-in-law recently turned 60 and was forced to retire. I think he has been doing some non-commercial flights, but am not sure about that. Hi Sue, I don't think this is true of all commercial airlines but I am not an expert on this subject. I do know some of the Pilot's unions were against the law being passed to allow pilots to fly past 60 which I found very strange. Maybe this incident will enlighten any airline which does have a mandatory age 60 retirement to rethink the policy. I will ask my friend next time we talk, but I think her SIL would still be flying commercial if he could. They should rethink the forced retirement and could insist on health and performance checks more frequently after age 60 to be sure the pilots are still ok to fly. sue It's been approved by the FAA to 65 according to our newspaper. Unions against it? They have more members without it, eh? Marv |
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US Air jet in the Hudson - Any Ships Trapped?
He is still a hero in our eyes
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