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Old May 4th, 2004, 05:25 AM
Brian Wickham
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On Mon, 03 May 2004 07:13:10 GMT, "alohacyberian"
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"Brian Wickham" wrote in message
.. .
How many Republicans does it take to sling mud at a
man for fulfilling his military duty?

Neither Republicans or anyone else I've noticed is concerned about Kerry's
fulfilling his military duties to his country, what concerns them is his
anti-America activism and anti-war protests while a war was still in
progress;


Not anti-American to those with a brain who can understand these kinds
of things. If you had been there you would know that the only people
in favor of the Vietnam War were those who didn't have to go. They
didn't have to pay attention to anything except who held a flag higher
than who, or who to beat up for looking "different".

his lying about his service in Vietnam and his lying about his
protesting after returning from Vietnam; his slandering other soldiers who
served in Vietnam


What lies? Tell us exactly what you are referring to, if you can.
What soldiers did he slander? When? Are you referring to his
"atrocity" statement? War breeds atrocities and anyone who has been
in a combat zone knows that they are fairly common. How about today's
revelations on Iraqi prisoners? Small potatoes as atrocities go but I
think they prove the point. And now we start to see what the
consequences are of relying on reserves to do occupation duty. Why
send professionals when you can send a bunch of rural Virginians who
are totally unprepared for the job? Besides, we don't have enough
professionals. Good thinking Rummy! And where were you during the
Vietnam War? Or Karl Rove? We know where Newt Gingrich was -
cheating on one of his wives, probably with the next one. He really
took a chance with that college deferment when he could have gotten a
pass for moral turpitude. Does that qualify as "courage"?

and his staunch refusal to produce ALL of this military
records.


You've got it backwards, all of Kerry's military records are on the
web. George Bush has yet to produce all of his. Both men's records
are at
http://www.awolbush.com/kerry-vs-bush.asp


That was a nice try though. Everyone knows that someone didn't
produce all their records so if you say it was Kerry someone might
just believe it. Right wing reasoning.

Note: My spell-checker wants to change "Gingrich" to "Gibberish".
Even the machines have deserted you Newt!
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Old May 4th, 2004, 05:35 AM
Brian Wickham
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On Mon, 03 May 2004 07:13:11 GMT, "alohacyberian"
wrote:

"Shawn Hearn" wrote in message
...

Really? Look at the federal budget that was passed the day after Bush
invaded Iraq.

Fiscal policy in the United States is set by Congress and only Congress can
approve the spending or cutting of spending in the federal government. The
American president lacks such authority, which admittedly robs the
president-bashers of a lot of hysterical hyperbole. If you'd like to
influence or do something about federal spending or lack of it, you need to
contact Congress. KM



Right! Let's boot out all these spendthrift Republicans! It's the
Democrats and just a few conservative Republicans who are clamoring
for a balanced budget. Clinton undid the Reagan deficit mess when he
agreed with the Republicans and now Dick Cheney says, "Reagan proved
that deficits don't matter." The utter gall of this man! What he
really means is "If Democrats want it then we don't, but we reserve
the right to change our position if they do."
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Old May 4th, 2004, 06:24 AM
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alohacyberian wrote:

"John Ramsay" wrote in message
...
Boycott Canada wrote:

Yep.. He was wounded alright. A scratch on the arm didn't even draw

blood,
or result in time off. What a hero he was.
He got those metals by deception in order to get out of nam. When you are

a
enlisted man and a officer says medic I'm wounded, What can you say but

yes,
sir. 3 purple heart in 4 months with no time off, give me a break. Also

one
of his commanders said, "There wasn't even any shooting going on one of

the
times he was injured." The just went under a low hanging branch that
scratched him. What a hero.....


You seem to have trouble with
basic facts.

Kerry was an officer, not an
enlisted man.


That's precisely what was posted, that Kerry was the commissioned officer and
the medic was an enlisted man. And nothing Kerry did in Vietnam or claimed to
have done in Vietnam is in any way connected to or involved with George W.
Bush, whom you may bash to your heart's content, but, such sidestepping in no
way exhonerates or excuses Kerry's behavior or words. And the unanswered
question remains: why hasn't Kerry released ALL of his military records? Is
he hiding something? KM
--


Military records are subject to Freedom of Information
legislation. Kerry can not suppress his.

Try a google search for Kerry service record
and you will find detailed information on his
service in Vietnam.

In fairness you can also do the same for Bush -

The charge that Kerry used his rank to order a
medic to certify his wound as qualifying
for a Purple Heart comes from the Washington
Times article by Charles Hunt.

It is speculation on Hunt's part. Not factual
journalism - as other journalists have been quick
to point out.
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Old May 4th, 2004, 11:03 PM
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On Tue, 04 May 2004 04:25:31 GMT, Brian Wickham
wrote:

On Mon, 03 May 2004 07:13:10 GMT, "alohacyberian"
wrote:

"Brian Wickham" wrote in message
. ..
How many Republicans does it take to sling mud at a
man for fulfilling his military duty?

Neither Republicans or anyone else I've noticed is concerned about Kerry's
fulfilling his military duties to his country, what concerns them is his
anti-America activism and anti-war protests while a war was still in
progress;


Not anti-American to those with a brain who can understand these kinds
of things. If you had been there you would know that the only people
in favor of the Vietnam War were those who didn't have to go. They
didn't have to pay attention to anything except who held a flag higher
than who, or who to beat up for looking "different".


I suppose the next thing you are going to claim is that you were there
too.

his lying about his service in Vietnam and his lying about his
protesting after returning from Vietnam; his slandering other soldiers who
served in Vietnam


What lies? Tell us exactly what you are referring to, if you can.
What soldiers did he slander? When? Are you referring to his
"atrocity" statement? War breeds atrocities and anyone who has been
in a combat zone knows that they are fairly common. How about today's
revelations on Iraqi prisoners? Small potatoes as atrocities go but I
think they prove the point. And now we start to see what the
consequences are of relying on reserves to do occupation duty. Why
send professionals when you can send a bunch of rural Virginians who
are totally unprepared for the job? Besides, we don't have enough
professionals. Good thinking Rummy! And where were you during the
Vietnam War? Or Karl Rove? We know where Newt Gingrich was -
cheating on one of his wives, probably with the next one. He really
took a chance with that college deferment when he could have gotten a
pass for moral turpitude. Does that qualify as "courage"?


Obviously you a Democrat with an agenda. Considering that John Kennedy
really got us involved in Vietnam, where was Ted Kennedy? You also
are just parroting since you assume incorrectly what deferment
Gingrich had.

and his staunch refusal to produce ALL of this military
records.


You've got it backwards, all of Kerry's military records are on the
web. George Bush has yet to produce all of his. Both men's records
are at
http://www.awolbush.com/kerry-vs-bush.asp


The above certainly sounds like a really unbiased site. OTOH it's on
the internet so it must be true!


That was a nice try though. Everyone knows that someone didn't
produce all their records so if you say it was Kerry someone might
just believe it. Right wing reasoning.

Note: My spell-checker wants to change "Gingrich" to "Gibberish".
Even the machines have deserted you Newt!


 




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