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"alohacyberian" schreef in bericht ... Sjoerd, you are an America-basher I am not. from way back as are most Communists. I am not a communist. I can't imagine anyone taking your words seriously. I am not surprised. You are too stupid for that. Sjoerd |
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From the readings of this thread, I have come to a conclusion: There are mainly two groups of people: one consists of people who are deluded and/or utterly stupid and the other group consists of those who can think for themselves. The former group represents Bush supporters. I rest my case! Like you yankees love the say:"have a ****ed up day!". |
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On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:59:19 -0500, wrote:
Very few countries in N/W/S Europe, OZ, NZ, Japan have "consistent double digit unemployment". Try again. Wrong. Try the two biggest, Germany and France for starters and add a recession to the mix as well. Not quite so: http://europa.eu.int/comm/eurostat/P...&mode=download While some countries do have consistent double digit unemployment (Spain is one) the large majority doesn't. Some do in fact have it consistently lower than 5%. There's too much diversity in Europe. You can't just say "Europe is this, Europe is that". That shows ignorance of the diversity factors. 2. their economies are in constant doldrums Nonsense. Try again. See Germany and recession. Biggest economy in Europe. Check out their failing banks as well while you are at it. This is clearly a very bad argument. There is in all economies growth and recessive cycles. You have picked a recessive cycle in Germany to demonstrate that the European economies are "in constant doldrums". Like the other guy said before that is nonsense. And this argument of yours can be easily used against you in the next recessive period in the US. I hope this will take a long time to happen again though. 4. longer working hours means a healthier economy. Nonsense. Sure, that's why the US economy consistenly outperforms the Europeans ones almost without exception. Single digit unemployment, low inflation, etc. Hardly the case in Europe except for liars like you. Longer working hours means worse quality of life. That's something taken very seriously over here. As for the single digit unemployment, low inflation, growth, how many European examples would you like? A lot longer than cowards like you can stand that's for sure. And the last poll taken in Iraq (unlike the completely unsupported propaganda put out by twits like you) showed 68% of Iraqis supported the US effort. I wonder who might have developed this poll :-) Yeah very wise. It leaves these the kids the alternative of foregoing their religious faith, going to private (read Catholic) schools or leaving school. An option only an European could love. They call this democracy? There's a big difference between having religious faith and showing that faith in the public schools. I'm not saying I agree with the hairscarves affair in France. However out of the millions of muslim chieldren in France, I don't know of any case they are unable to go to school for the fact of having their own religious faith. |
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On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 19:58:43 +0000, mrraveltay wrote:
Sjoerd wrote: Only in schools. No religion in schools = very wise decision. There is a difference between state sponsored religion in school and the right of religious freedom while attending a state sponsored school. I really doubr the French would stop someone from wearing a cross to school, but the moslems are fair game, I guess. Perhaps you should do your homework before indulging in unwarranted speculations. That report out of France has recommended that *both* small crosses and small equivalent Muslim symbols (what is it, Fatima's hand?) should be allowed in schools. |
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pmlt wrote:
There's a big difference between having religious faith and showing that faith in the public schools. There is also a difference between having school and curricula which is secular, and prohibiting students from dressing as they wish. And if they do pass that law in France, it isn't only head scarves and jewish hats that would be banned, but also, technically, christmas trees, easter eggs and anything related to christian festivities. Will christmas holidays be banned from schools because they are not religion-neutral ? There is a subtle advantage to those ban though. Students, as young ones, will get used to spending time without their religious gear. Once adyults, they may decide that it isn't really so bad to be without it. The problem with anti-discrimination laws combined with immigration is that they can change the face of a country when immigrants , instead of adapting to their new home's customs and culture, continue to live according to their former home. The proposed french law is essentially an attempt at finding some legal loophole that would allow the french government to find a way to force immigrants from middle east to adapt to French culture and customs. |
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On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 19:26:12 -0500, nobody wrote:
There is also a difference between having school and curricula which is secular, and prohibiting students from dressing as they wish. I didn't say I was for that law. former home. The proposed french law is essentially an attempt at finding some legal loophole that would allow the french government to find a way to force immigrants from middle east to adapt to French culture and customs. Among other factors that is the biggest one. In one word, integration. |
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On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 22:59:34 GMT, Dave wrote:
From the readings of this thread, I have come to a conclusion: There are mainly two groups of people: one consists of people who are deluded and/or utterly stupid and the other group consists of those who can think for themselves. The former group represents Bush supporters. I rest my case! Which is based on nothing but bull****. Like you yankees love the say:"have a ****ed up day!". Then you must be talking about the Dutch is yankee is what the British colonialist named them. |
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alohacyberian wrote: Sjoerd, you are an America-basher from way back as are most Communists. This is obviously true, but you've got to feel sorry for Sjoerd. He has been brainwashed by European mass media and reduced to regurgitating the same old lies about America that he gets from newspapers and TV. On the other hand, having been to America, he is aware of the truth at some level, which is why he is so desperately envious of American freedom and quality of life. The result is his peculiar love-hate relationship with America, half jealousy, half resentment. Quite amusing to watch, really. |
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On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 23:57:17 +0000, pmlt
wrote: See Germany and recession. Biggest economy in Europe. Check out their failing banks as well while you are at it. This is clearly a very bad argument. There is in all economies growth and recessive cycles. You have picked a recessive cycle in Germany to demonstrate that the European economies are "in constant doldrums". Like the other guy said before that is nonsense. And this argument of yours can be easily used against you in the next recessive period in the US. I hope this will take a long time to happen again though. It's a very long period then, because Germany has been in the doldrums for several years (though not as long as Japan). European growth overall has been much lower than in the US over more than the last decade. Ours last 1 to 2 years at the most. Hardly comparable. 4. longer working hours means a healthier economy. Nonsense. Sure, that's why the US economy consistenly outperforms the Europeans ones almost without exception. Single digit unemployment, low inflation, etc. Hardly the case in Europe except for liars like you. Longer working hours means worse quality of life. That's something taken very seriously over here. Your lack of productivity and a low work ethic are, among other reasons, why European countries can't begin to pay for their pensions, which are being cut all over the place. You call that a better quality of life? Then tell me why all those French and Italians are demonstrating against the cuts then? You think there is a free lunch? As for the single digit unemployment, low inflation, growth, how many European examples would you like? Give us all the ones that have averaged less than the US rate over the last decade. A lot longer than cowards like you can stand that's for sure. And the last poll taken in Iraq (unlike the completely unsupported propaganda put out by twits like you) showed 68% of Iraqis supported the US effort. I wonder who might have developed this poll :-) Yeah very wise. It leaves these the kids the alternative of foregoing their religious faith, going to private (read Catholic) schools or leaving school. An option only an European could love. They call this democracy? There's a big difference between having religious faith and showing that faith in the public schools. I'm not saying I agree with the hairscarves affair in France. However out of the millions of muslim chieldren in France, I don't know of any case they are unable to go to school for the fact of having their own religious faith. then go read about what is going on right now in France. This edict is very clear: get rid of your scarf or stay out of school. Period. This is a classic case of the French treating unequal cases equally then trying to pontificate about equality. What Catholics wear scarves as part of their religion. You must not read. This case has been all over the news and was started about two young girls trying to wear their scarves. |
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