Rushed into the security gate

In message Craig Welch
wrote:

DevilsPGD said:

In message "Mr. Travel"
wrote:

If he didn't approve, why didn't he just veto it?

Bush only seems to veto things that would be good for the people...

In that case, why didn't he veto the bill in question?

Because the TSA is just a money sink, focusing on theatre rather then
actual security.

I don't have enough practical experience with any other elements of
homeland security to comment.

In message
(Dennis P. Harris) wrote:

On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 18:57:35 -0800 in rec.travel.air, "Mr.
Travel" wrote:


Again. He signed the bill.

only because it passed with a veto-proof majority.

He could still veto it to make a point. If the veto gets overridden, so
be it. You can either try to do something, or do nothing.

Dennis P. Harris wrote:

On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 18:57:35 -0800 in rec.travel.air, "Mr.
Travel" wrote:


Again. He signed the bill.


only because it passed with a veto-proof majority.

To override a veto takes a 2/3 margin.

On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 21:36:35 -0900,
(Dennis P. Harris) wrote:

On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 18:57:35 -0800 in rec.travel.air, "Mr.
Travel" wrote:


Again. He signed the bill.

only because it passed with a veto-proof majority.

but we have never had a worst disaster of a pResident. time to
impeach the whole bu$h-cheney gang IMHO.


They have already been impeached, leaving behind the sorriest mess in
history. Just take a look at Basra now the UK forces are quitting,
Iraq is going to be even worse when the US leave.

Why do you need to take off your belt?

Uhh, belts without a metal buckle are pretty uncommon on my planet, not sure
about yours. In fact belts are probably the most common item of clothing I see
being removed in the security line.



Mr. Travel wrote:
Peter wrote:


What’s with these people? I have to take off my belt, watch, tie
clip, cell phone, keys, and pocket change. Am I supposed to be able
to do all that instantaneously? Must I do it in my car or taxi
first? I don’t dare show my true disgust for fear of being branded a
threat. I don't fly often, but I've definitely noticed this increase
since a few years ago -- which is ironically when I shaved my
moustache off.

Obviously I’m doing something wrong; what is it?

Peter


Why don't you deal with the stuff before getting to the security area?
Why do you need to take off your belt?
If you have a belt that sets off the metal detector, buy a different belt.

On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 10:37:52 -0600, "TMOliver"
wrote:

Basra might not be quite so bad had the Brits done the job they set out to
accomplish instead of lurking in their cantonments for the last year or so,
cowed by the Shia militia and the thought of more casualties to be blazoned
across the front page by the dozy denizens of Fleet Street.

Now, with leadership like old Gordon "To creep away in the night is not
really Dunkirkish." Brown, the moldy, tattered coat of the once proud lion
is glaringly revealed to all. Whilst, with some obvious success, the US
"surges", the British slink away, sadly from a sorry mess, Iraq, that they
themselves long ago created and after the end of the Hashemites, allowed to
fall into a deeper morass, then back in 1991 when the matter might have been
more easily cured, joined the nattering nabobs and swarmy sheiks of
appeasement and that old British maxim, "peace at any price!", halting the
advance on Baghdad, and allowing Sadam another decade of misdeeds.

Indeed. It's a well-known fact that all the ills of the world are the fault
of the British, one way or another. In this case, the fact that the UK
population were overwhelmingly against this unnecessary and
counter-productive adventure, and that this sorry mess was totally
predictable to anyone who had a smattering of historical knowledge - doesn't
alter anything.

DaveM

Mark Tangard wrote:

Why do you need to take off your belt?

Uhh, belts without a metal buckle are pretty uncommon on my planet, not
sure about yours. In fact belts are probably the most common item of
clothing I see being removed in the security line.


Most belts do not set off the metal detector at US security.

DaveM wrote:

On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 10:37:52 -0600, "TMOliver"
wrote:


Basra might not be quite so bad had the Brits done the job they set out to
accomplish instead of lurking in their cantonments for the last year or so,
cowed by the Shia militia and the thought of more casualties to be blazoned
across the front page by the dozy denizens of Fleet Street.

Now, with leadership like old Gordon "To creep away in the night is not
really Dunkirkish." Brown, the moldy, tattered coat of the once proud lion
is glaringly revealed to all. Whilst, with some obvious success, the US
"surges", the British slink away, sadly from a sorry mess, Iraq, that they
themselves long ago created and after the end of the Hashemites, allowed to
fall into a deeper morass, then back in 1991 when the matter might have been
more easily cured, joined the nattering nabobs and swarmy sheiks of
appeasement and that old British maxim, "peace at any price!", halting the
advance on Baghdad, and allowing Sadam another decade of misdeeds.


Indeed. It's a well-known fact that all the ills of the world are the fault
of the British, one way or another.

I know this. I watched "Exodus" last night.

"Mr. Travel" wrote in message
. ..
Mark Tangard wrote:

Why do you need to take off your belt?

Uhh, belts without a metal buckle are pretty uncommon on my planet, not
sure about yours. In fact belts are probably the most common item of
clothing I see being removed in the security line.


Most belts do not set off the metal detector at US security.

They surely do--virtually every time I've gone through a checkpoint. At
some, the machines are set so delicately that even the paper-thin foil
wrappers of my sticks of chewing gum lead to a secondary inspection.

Mr. Travel wrote:

Mark Tangard wrote:

Why do you need to take off your belt?

Uhh, belts without a metal buckle are pretty uncommon on my planet,
not sure about yours. In fact belts are probably the most common item
of clothing I see being removed in the security line.


Most belts do not set off the metal detector at US security.

Please. You've worn "most belts"?

I've seen it happen at least 10 times, in the U.S., including pre-9/11.