short break in Verona

You do not mention

san zeno romanic church ( main chruch in verona romanic style)
house of Juliet
so called Tomb of Juliet..
with museum of paintings

the hill defences called : torricelle
arche scaligere ( tombs of Della Scala family)

the archeological excavations under the Palazzo
Comunale..

Piazza delle Erbe . the old medioeval fruits and vegetables market with the
tower that you can climb and allows you to have a magnificent view of the
town..

and finally the castle and the medioeval bridge..

Close to Verona I would go and visit Mantova
about 30 kms away
with the palace of the dukes and the famous
Camera degli sposi by
Andrea mantegna

again.. every place is italy is a small museum
every old duke palace boasts so many old paintings and sculptures that one
will be soon tired..

Near mantova virgil was born .. in Andes ( today
Pietole )

while Catullus had his villa in the peninsula of
Sirmione on the garda lake..
Sirmio.. paene insularum ocelle..
said the poet

Sirmione.. pearl of the peninsulas..
remnants of catullus villa are still to be seen.
"Mean Mama" ha scritto nel messaggio
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Verona can easily fill several days. Like anywhere else, it depends on
your
interests . . . It is fairly compact, and you can easily walk from the
arena to the various piazze, etc. The Teatro Romano on the other side of
the river has a great small archeologico museum where I particularly
enjoyed
the remnants of roman flooring. Also near the teatro is Santa Maria in
Organo, which has awesome inlaid woodwork in the choir. Ask the sacristan
if he will take you back into the sacristy to see the cabinets there--they
are amazing!Personally I would suggest at least bringing along (but
preferably also reading ahead) an informative guide book. The tourist
information office has nice little pamphlets on the attractions and a map.
The museum of the Castelvecchio is top of my list for my next visit to
Verona.

We have also been to Trento, Bolzano, Parma, Soave, etc. and Venice from
Verona, but truly--wandering around Verona for a long weekend would be
simply lovely!




"randee" wrote in message
...
We found plenty to do in Verona for four or five days, one of my
favorite towns. This time of year the opera may still be in season.
There are some interesting shops, several historical sites dating to
Roman times, and a museum or two. The other towns mentioned, such as
Padova, are indeed interesting and only a short train ride away. You
are only 90 minutes or so from Venice by train, but Venice never held
much interest for us, too damp, moldy and crowded. Now 90 minutes to
the north and you are in Bozen, a possible base for exploring the
Dolomites, which I find a lot more interesting than Venice.

As an aside I didn't realize Ryanair went to VRN.
--
wf.

"N! Xau" wrote:

"andyhumphriss" wrote in message
...
Thanks to Ryanair, (God, I love 'em!) we are off to Verona for 3
nights
next
week. Any tips or advice would be much appreciated.

Is it worth taking the train to Venice, or will Verona itself keep
us
busy?

You may consider other options in that region (Veneto).
Padova is a very very beautiful town.
Vicenza, Treviso are certainly worth of a visit.
There are other very interesting minor centers.
Take a look at:
http://www.initaly.com/regions/veneto/veneto.htm

Venezia is great, but I'd prefere to visit it having a little more
time.

bye
N! Xau

--
wf.
Wayne Flowers
Randee Greenwald

"tile" wrote in message . ..
pls note that Bozen is the german version of the italian name Bolzano.

Nobody in Italy will refer to it as Bozen.-
it is a bilingual region

and IME the two languages are German and "anything except Italian"

Trentino Alto Adige / Suedtirol
but Italians will always call this town Bolzano.-

in the same way

Trento is translated Trient
Merano is translated Meran

as far as I know, in major towns the majority of the
population is of Italian mother tongue.-.

Not a single person spoke to me in Italian. At the time I knew
not a word of German and the negative reaction I got to my
Italian caused me to get by in English.

tim




"randee" ha scritto nel messaggio
...
We found plenty to do in Verona for four or five days, one of my
favorite towns. This time of year the opera may still be in season.
There are some interesting shops, several historical sites dating to
Roman times, and a museum or two. The other towns mentioned, such as
Padova, are indeed interesting and only a short train ride away. You
are only 90 minutes or so from Venice by train, but Venice never held
much interest for us, too damp, moldy and crowded. Now 90 minutes to
the north and you are in Bozen, a possible base for exploring the
Dolomites, which I find a lot more interesting than Venice.

As an aside I didn't realize Ryanair went to VRN.
--
wf.

"N! Xau" wrote:

"andyhumphriss" wrote in message
...
Thanks to Ryanair, (God, I love 'em!) we are off to Verona for 3
nights
next
week. Any tips or advice would be much appreciated.

Is it worth taking the train to Venice, or will Verona itself keep us
busy?

You may consider other options in that region (Veneto).
Padova is a very very beautiful town.
Vicenza, Treviso are certainly worth of a visit.
There are other very interesting minor centers.
Take a look at:
http://www.initaly.com/regions/veneto/veneto.htm

Venezia is great, but I'd prefere to visit it having a little more time.

bye
N! Xau

--
wf.
Wayne Flowers
Randee Greenwald

"tim"

"tile" wrote
Nobody in Italy will refer to it as Bozen.-
it is a bilingual region

and IME the two languages are German and "anything except Italian"

Incidentally, in the province of Trento (Trentino), which makes up
one half of the region, nobody speaks a German dialect as their
first language.

M.

"tim" wrote ..


Not a single person spoke to me in Italian. At the time I knew
not a word of German and the negative reaction I got to my
Italian caused me to get by in English.

Sure you did not knock at the 'SuedTirol Shutzen' door?

bye
N! Xau

"Matteo B" wrote in message
. ..

"tim"

"tile" wrote
Nobody in Italy will refer to it as Bozen.-
it is a bilingual region

and IME the two languages are German and "anything except Italian"

Incidentally, in the province of Trento (Trentino), which makes up
one half of the region, nobody speaks a German dialect as their
first language.

Yes I did notice that in one town everyone spoke German and
somewhere else they didn't. But it was so long ago I can't remember
which was which

tim


M.

It seems like everybody in Brixen and Meran refers to Bozen as Bozen.
It certainly appeared to us that German was far more widely spoken than
Italian in Bozen, Brixen and Meran, although I think we did hear some
Italian also in all of those towns. Any of them could probably be used
as a starting point for exploring the Dolomites, but the towns are
interesting themselves. Both Bozen and Verona have interesting markets.

Forgot to mention that Bologna would be another 90 minute train trip,
but to the south, from Verona. Another good day trip from Verona. But
as others have mentioned, there is enough to do in Verona itself for 3
days.
--
wf.

tile wrote:

pls note that Bozen is the german version of the italian name Bolzano.

Nobody in Italy will refer to it as Bozen.-
it is a bilingual region
Trentino Alto Adige / Suedtirol
but Italians will always call this town Bolzano.-

in the same way

Trento is translated Trient
Merano is translated Meran

as far as I know, in major towns the majority of the
population is of Italian mother tongue.-.

I just want to say thank you to everybody who posted a reply to my original
question. I never fail to be amazed by the wealth of knowledge and
experience displayed by you all! But perhaps more important, is your
generosity in terms of time and spirit.

Thanks to all

Andy

"tile" wrote in message
. ..
You do not mention

san zeno romanic church ( main chruch in verona romanic style)
house of Juliet
so called Tomb of Juliet..
with museum of paintings

the hill defences called : torricelle
arche scaligere ( tombs of Della Scala family)

the archeological excavations under the Palazzo
Comunale..

Piazza delle Erbe . the old medioeval fruits and vegetables market with
the
tower that you can climb and allows you to have a magnificent view of the
town..

and finally the castle and the medioeval bridge..

Close to Verona I would go and visit Mantova
about 30 kms away
with the palace of the dukes and the famous
Camera degli sposi by
Andrea mantegna

again.. every place is italy is a small museum
every old duke palace boasts so many old paintings and sculptures that one
will be soon tired..

Near mantova virgil was born .. in Andes ( today
Pietole )

while Catullus had his villa in the peninsula of
Sirmione on the garda lake..
Sirmio.. paene insularum ocelle..
said the poet

Sirmione.. pearl of the peninsulas..
remnants of catullus villa are still to be seen.
"Mean Mama" ha scritto nel messaggio
news:F6G9b.366182$Oz4.143865@rwcrnsc54...
Verona can easily fill several days. Like anywhere else, it depends on
your
interests . . . It is fairly compact, and you can easily walk from the
arena to the various piazze, etc. The Teatro Romano on the other side
of
the river has a great small archeologico museum where I particularly
enjoyed
the remnants of roman flooring. Also near the teatro is Santa Maria in
Organo, which has awesome inlaid woodwork in the choir. Ask the
sacristan
if he will take you back into the sacristy to see the cabinets
there--they
are amazing!Personally I would suggest at least bringing along (but
preferably also reading ahead) an informative guide book. The tourist
information office has nice little pamphlets on the attractions and a
map.
The museum of the Castelvecchio is top of my list for my next visit to
Verona.

We have also been to Trento, Bolzano, Parma, Soave, etc. and Venice from
Verona, but truly--wandering around Verona for a long weekend would be
simply lovely!




"randee" wrote in message
...
We found plenty to do in Verona for four or five days, one of my
favorite towns. This time of year the opera may still be in season.
There are some interesting shops, several historical sites dating to
Roman times, and a museum or two. The other towns mentioned, such as
Padova, are indeed interesting and only a short train ride away. You
are only 90 minutes or so from Venice by train, but Venice never held
much interest for us, too damp, moldy and crowded. Now 90 minutes to
the north and you are in Bozen, a possible base for exploring the
Dolomites, which I find a lot more interesting than Venice.

As an aside I didn't realize Ryanair went to VRN.
--
wf.

"N! Xau" wrote:

"andyhumphriss" wrote in message
...
Thanks to Ryanair, (God, I love 'em!) we are off to Verona for 3
nights
next
week. Any tips or advice would be much appreciated.

Is it worth taking the train to Venice, or will Verona itself keep
us
busy?

You may consider other options in that region (Veneto).
Padova is a very very beautiful town.
Vicenza, Treviso are certainly worth of a visit.
There are other very interesting minor centers.
Take a look at:
http://www.initaly.com/regions/veneto/veneto.htm

Luca Logi wrote:

Nor exactly in the same way: only the Bolzano/Bozen province has a
multilingual status (Italian, German and Ladino, a neolatine language
closely related to the Swiss Rumatsch), which involve multiple place
names. The German name of Trento is unofficial (of course, when the
whole region was under Austria, the German name was widely used).

In English it was historically called "Trent" (as in the Council of
Trent).

When visiting Bolzano/Bozen some years ago, I noticed that "Herr Bischof
Wilhelm" was confirming the German-speaking kids at nine o'clock, while
"il nostro Vescovo Guglielmo" was performing the same service for
Italian-speaking kids at 11. The two prelates were, of course, teh same
man!

Elections were on at the time, and almost all the parties had posters on
dispaly in both Italian and German. The two exceptions were the
Suedtiroler Volkspartei, whose poster showed an Aryan-looking couple
skipping through a meadow, and the MSI-DN, as it then was, whose leader
was coming to address "gli italiani di Bolzano".

A rather disturbing experience was to stand in the churchyard at
Brennero/Brenner, looking at the war memorial and realising that the
young men commemorated there died for a country 500 yards up the road,
fighting against the country in which their memorial now stands.

Alan Harrison