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Precautions while travelling in South-Africa
On Sun, 2 May 2004 12:29:59 +0200, Ken Tough
wrote: Apparently BroJack wrote If he brings his infant daughter, do you promise not to rape her? America is one of the few countries that executes children. Do you promise not to execute his kids? [whatever relevance that is...] None whatsoever, especially since when one gets executed here, it is because they are a very bad criminal, while one getting raped in SA is getting raped by a criminal. Except when mistakes are made, which is one of the major reasons I am against the death penalty. |
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Precautions while travelling in South-Africa
On Sun, 2 May 2004 12:29:59 +0200, Ken Tough
wrote: Apparently BroJack wrote If he brings his infant daughter, do you promise not to rape her? America is one of the few countries that executes children. Ever hear of Muslims strapping TNT to their daughters? BroJack |
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Precautions while travelling in South-Africa
Bro Jack wrote:
On Sun, 2 May 2004 12:29:59 +0200, Ken Tough wrote: Apparently BroJack wrote If he brings his infant daughter, do you promise not to rape her? America is one of the few countries that executes children. Ever hear of Muslims strapping TNT to their daughters? No. They do it of their own accord, as do the Tamil Tigers. Desperation is a terrible thing. -- Ken Tough |
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Precautions while travelling in South-Africa
On Sun, 2 May 2004 18:38:53 +0200, Ken Tough
wrote: Bro Jack wrote: On Sun, 2 May 2004 12:29:59 +0200, Ken Tough wrote: Apparently BroJack wrote If he brings his infant daughter, do you promise not to rape her? America is one of the few countries that executes children. Ever hear of Muslims strapping TNT to their daughters? No. They do it of their own accord, as do the Tamil Tigers. Desperation is a terrible thing. They do it of their own accord? That makes it right? That makes it better than executing murderous punks? You Euro-twits have really got your heads up your asses. BroJack |
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Precautions while travelling in South-Africa
On Sun, 2 May 2004 18:38:02 +0200, Ken Tough
wrote: Apparently wrote: Ken Tough wrote: Apparently BroJack wrote If he brings his infant daughter, do you promise not to rape her? America is one of the few countries that executes children. Do you promise not to execute his kids? [whatever relevance that is...] None whatsoever, especially since when one gets executed here, it is because they are a very bad criminal, while one getting raped in SA is getting raped by a criminal. Except when mistakes are made, which is one of the major reasons I am against the death penalty. Of course it's of no relevance, it was tongue-in-cheek, primarily because the comment about a tourist's infant child being raped is also stupidly irrelevant. Tell it to the infant's parents. Yes, there is a problem with rape in this country, especially as a cultural thing. But the risk to tourists is small. The violence against farmers is also a red-herring, unless the intention is to penalize the country as a means of revenge. It isn't a government promulgated policy (as it is in Zimbabwe), but something which sadly falls lower on the priority list than some of the other problems. The best means to cure the problem is to make the best of what the country is, not what you want it not to be. Maybe you missed this: Correct these facts, chump: EXCERPT: in 1999 South Africa had 121 murders and 119 rapes per 100,000 inhabitants, compared with Colombia’s 69 and 6 respectively (and the United States’ 5 and 32) EXCERPT: South Africa has seen the rise of vigilante groups filling the void left by an incompetent (affirmative action, again – one third of policemen are functionally illiterate) and violent police – who between 1997 and 2000 killed 1,550 people, compared with 2,700 killed by the apartheid regime in 30 years. EXCERPT: South Africa has the world’s largest number of persons living with HIV/AIDS: 5 million of its 44 million citizens are HIV-positive. Only 42 million are infected worldwide [snip] But Mbeki has repeatedly stated that he did not believe the "thesis" that AIDS is caused by HIV, or that it is a virus at all. _____________________ http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles...le.asp?ID=5979 South Africa: The Downside of Liberation By Michael Radu |
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Precautions while travelling in South-Africa
(BroJack) wrote
Of course it's of no relevance, it was tongue-in-cheek, primarily because the comment about a tourist's infant child being raped is also stupidly irrelevant. Tell it to the infant's parents. What tourist infant's parents? Rubbish. Yes, there is a problem with rape in this country, especially as a cultural thing. But the risk to tourists is small. The violence against farmers is also a red-herring, unless the intention is to penalize the country as a means of revenge. It isn't a government promulgated policy (as it is in Zimbabwe), but something which sadly falls lower on the priority list than some of the other problems. The best means to cure the problem is to make the best of what the country is, not what you want it not to be. Correct these facts, chump: EXCERPT: in 1999 South Africa had 121 murders and 119 rapes per 100,000 inhabitants, compared with Colombia?s 69 and 6 respectively (and the United States? 5 and 32) http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/cri_mur_cap Lists 69 for colombia and 51 for south africa. (murder) 123 for South Africa [vs 74 for Canada] (rape) Maybe you missed the part where I wrote "there is a problem with rape..." but fact it is not relevant to tourists. Anyway, correct your own facts. If you argue that the murder rate is wrong because the figures are newer, then give up. EXCERPT: South Africa has seen the rise of vigilante groups filling the void left by an incompetent (affirmative action, again – one third of policemen are functionally illiterate) and violent police – who between 1997 and 2000 killed 1,550 people, compared with 2,700 killed by the apartheid regime in 30 years. It's clear where you're coming from, and I am well aware there is no use arguing with your type so I'll go bash my head against the wall. I notice you neglect to include the 10's of thousands killed in strategically organized violence by the apartheid regime. Stats are a funny thing, eh? EXCERPT: South Africa has the world's largest number of persons living with HIV/AIDS: 5 million of its 44 million citizens are HIV-positive. Only 42 million are infected worldwide [snip] But Mbeki has repeatedly stated that he did not believe the "thesis" that AIDS is caused by HIV, or that it is a virus at all. South Africa has free anti-retrovirals for all those people with HIV. Care to suggest when that might be the case in the USA? Ha! -- Ken Tough |
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