Bilingual in Europe versus USA

Mxsmanic wrote:
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) writes:

Actually, it was Mixi with another of his ill-considered
pronouncements (claiming that all native African culture
consists of people who live in "dung-covered huts")!

Where did I say "all"?

You didn't. You said that "as a group" Africans are "stupid".

Now - don't you have a cross burning to go to or something?

B;

On 4 Sep 2006 12:13:22 -0700, wrote:


Mxsmanic wrote:
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) writes:

Actually, it was Mixi with another of his ill-considered
pronouncements (claiming that all native African culture
consists of people who live in "dung-covered huts")!

Where did I say "all"?

You didn't. You said that "as a group" Africans are "stupid".

Now - don't you have a cross burning to go to or something?

Cross-burners have friends.
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On Mon, 04 Sep 2006 11:14:16 -0700, Hatunen wrote:

On Mon, 04 Sep 2006 09:58:38 +0200, Dave Frightens Me
wrote:

On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 20:39:54 -0500, erilar
wrote:

In article ,
Dave Frightens Me wrote:

Civilisation and human remains are not one and the same! It's about
complex societal structures that were formed, and the infrastructure
to support them.
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Ancient Egypt was simple??

No, they were quite advanced from what I understand.

I don't get it. Did I say something somewhere that denigrated the
ancient Egyptians?

Since Egyptians are Africans, there was an ambiguity involving
those other primtive, lazy, stupid Africans Mixi, or someone,
brought up. After I mentioned agriculture as the impetus to
civilization, your mention of the Egyptians was a good way show
Mixi that he is overgeneralizing.

Please don't assume I, or anyone else agrees with Mixi. Ever.
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Dave Frightens Me wrote:

On 4 Sep 2006 12:13:22 -0700, wrote:


Mxsmanic wrote:
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) writes:

Actually, it was Mixi with another of his ill-considered
pronouncements (claiming that all native African culture
consists of people who live in "dung-covered huts")!

Where did I say "all"?

You didn't. You said that "as a group" Africans are "stupid".

Now - don't you have a cross burning to go to or something?

Cross-burners have friends.

Mixi has his hard drives!

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My friend from Nashville says that "y'all" is singular, and that "all
y'all" is the plural.

Karen Selwyn


Hi,

y'all should know that y'all is 2nd plural.

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Yes, I have never, ever, heard anyone use "y'all" as singular.

In Texas, Oklahoma, and Arkansas it's not unusual for people to say
"you all" instead of the shortened version. I haven't spent enough
time in Tennessee to know the usages there.

Zane

Hi,

"you all"?

y'all ain't from aroun' here are ya?

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- Call me ruthless, amoral, but never call me dishonest. -

Even American English is no closer than British in that respect.


It's largely the fault of Willie the ******* back in 1066 8-)

Hi,

I find I can almost read nederlands... read it sounding out the words as
you would in english and it'll make some kinda sense... now it won't
sound like dutch... but it'll make sense.

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- Call me ruthless, amoral, but never call me dishonest. -

Caribbean English, mon?

If we accept that as an proper version of English, we might as well
accept that Jive / Black English is a proper language.


Actually, though I also have problems with Indian English pronunciation
myself, it does use the same grammar as mine. Black English, whatever
its current PC "name", has significant grammatical differences.

Hi,

well black urban "english" is a whole 'nother thing.

but when listening to jamaican patois I hear the country negro english
of my youth and I understand that.


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Civilisation and human remains are not one and the same! It's about
complex societal structures that were formed, and the infrastructure
to support them.

Mostly due to the rise of agriculture.


Actually the Egyptians were good at that, weren't they?

Hi,

the northern african arabs were and are culturally different than the
sub-Saharan negroes... and they were doing a big business selling the
african Negro for centuries (and still are)

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Hatunen wrote:
On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 21:18:34 +0200, Dave Frightens Me
wrote:
[snip]
Civilisation and human remains are not one and the same! It's about
complex societal structures that were formed, and the infrastructure
to support them.

Mostly due to the rise of agriculture.

IIRC, "sedation" or the building of near permanent housing
and the collection of them into communities predates agriculture.
We apparently were hunter gatherers for some time after we
started to take up permanent residence and form communities.
How far that process must progress before one considers it
"civilization" is left to a more precise definition. There is some
evidence that commerce preceded agriculture, although again
a definition of agriculture may be required since "cultivation"
may have preceeded plowing and planting. And the issue of
domestication of animals is involved. i.e. do I have
to breed animals or merely keep them captive until I'm ready
to eat them before I'm a "rancher".