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Old October 4th, 2004, 02:50 PM
JamesStep
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you'd have to work really hard to die
of thirst in DV, its a pretty busy spot


Unfortunately it does happen occasionally. In 120-degree
weather, a hiker without adequate water can develop heat
stroke in just a few hours. Their thinking becomes confused
and they wander off the trail, collapse, and can be dead within
a few hours (due to swelling of the brain, I think).



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Old October 4th, 2004, 02:50 PM
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you'd have to work really hard to die
of thirst in DV, its a pretty busy spot


Unfortunately it does happen occasionally. In 120-degree
weather, a hiker without adequate water can develop heat
stroke in just a few hours. Their thinking becomes confused
and they wander off the trail, collapse, and can be dead within
a few hours (due to swelling of the brain, I think).



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Old October 4th, 2004, 03:38 PM
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Keith Willshaw filted:

"R H Draney" wrote in message
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The Salton Sea has been mentioned upthread...anybody know about the
Spanish
galleon that's supposed to be submerged out there?...r


That'd be kinda hard seeing that the Salton Sea
didnt exist before 1905.


And the further fact that the Sea is landlocked?...

Ahem: http://www.desertusa.com/mag03/may/ship.html

.....r

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Old October 4th, 2004, 04:01 PM
Keith Willshaw
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"JamesStep" wrote in message
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you'd have to work really hard to die
of thirst in DV, its a pretty busy spot


Unfortunately it does happen occasionally. In 120-degree
weather, a hiker without adequate water can develop heat
stroke in just a few hours. Their thinking becomes confused
and they wander off the trail, collapse, and can be dead within
a few hours (due to swelling of the brain, I think).


Heat stroke isnt the same as dehydration. You can be
adequately hydrated and still die of heat stroke. Indeed
its typically more of a problem in humid conditions
where the body cant lose heat by perspiration.

Meanwhile the biggest killer this year in DV has been
flash flooding, 2 people died in the floods of Aug 14/15
and California Highway 190 between Furnace Creek
and Death Valley Junction, at Highway 127 will be closed
for months for repair.

Keith


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Old October 4th, 2004, 04:01 PM
Keith Willshaw
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"JamesStep" wrote in message
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you'd have to work really hard to die
of thirst in DV, its a pretty busy spot


Unfortunately it does happen occasionally. In 120-degree
weather, a hiker without adequate water can develop heat
stroke in just a few hours. Their thinking becomes confused
and they wander off the trail, collapse, and can be dead within
a few hours (due to swelling of the brain, I think).


Heat stroke isnt the same as dehydration. You can be
adequately hydrated and still die of heat stroke. Indeed
its typically more of a problem in humid conditions
where the body cant lose heat by perspiration.

Meanwhile the biggest killer this year in DV has been
flash flooding, 2 people died in the floods of Aug 14/15
and California Highway 190 between Furnace Creek
and Death Valley Junction, at Highway 127 will be closed
for months for repair.

Keith


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Old October 4th, 2004, 04:15 PM
Keith Willshaw
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"R H Draney" wrote in message
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Keith Willshaw filted:

"R H Draney" wrote in message
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The Salton Sea has been mentioned upthread...anybody know about the
Spanish
galleon that's supposed to be submerged out there?...r


That'd be kinda hard seeing that the Salton Sea
didnt exist before 1905.


And the further fact that the Sea is landlocked?...

Ahem: http://www.desertusa.com/mag03/may/ship.html


Which correctly describes it as a legend.

Keith


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Old October 4th, 2004, 04:15 PM
Keith Willshaw
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"R H Draney" wrote in message
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Keith Willshaw filted:

"R H Draney" wrote in message
...

The Salton Sea has been mentioned upthread...anybody know about the
Spanish
galleon that's supposed to be submerged out there?...r


That'd be kinda hard seeing that the Salton Sea
didnt exist before 1905.


And the further fact that the Sea is landlocked?...

Ahem: http://www.desertusa.com/mag03/may/ship.html


Which correctly describes it as a legend.

Keith


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Old October 4th, 2004, 05:32 PM
JamesStep
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a hiker without adequate water can develop
heat stroke in just a few hours


Heat stroke ...is typically more of a problem in
humid conditions



I'm certainly not an expert on the subject, but the
reason I mentioned "heat stroke" is that the official
2004 Visitor's Guide that I picked up at the Visitor's
Center a few months ago had a prominent article
about a tourist dying of heat stroke.

The article, titled "Summer Heat Claims Visitor",
talked about a tourist from Europe who was hiking
from Golden Canyon to Zabriskie Point, where his wife
was waiting for him. The temperature was over 110 F
and he took less than a liter of water.

When he hadn't reached Zabriskie Point after 3 hours,
his wife contacted the rangers. They flew over the
area and spotted his body. The article says, "Although
rangers reached Gerhard... only 5 hours after he
started his hike, he was dead. Heat stroke proved
to be the culprit."

James

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Old October 4th, 2004, 05:41 PM
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"Polaris2002" wrote in message
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This dry valley is under the level of the sea. It would be possible to

built a
canal between Los Angeles and this valley in order to bring the Pacific

ocean's
water into this valley, so it will become a new Salt Lake and we'll be

able to
build a new Salt Lake City.


Who wants to build a new SLC when no one wants the current one anyway?


Many tourists have died when they tried to cross
this valley, so it would be better to get it less dry with a big Lake.



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Old October 4th, 2004, 05:41 PM
PeterL
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"Polaris2002" wrote in message
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This dry valley is under the level of the sea. It would be possible to

built a
canal between Los Angeles and this valley in order to bring the Pacific

ocean's
water into this valley, so it will become a new Salt Lake and we'll be

able to
build a new Salt Lake City.


Who wants to build a new SLC when no one wants the current one anyway?


Many tourists have died when they tried to cross
this valley, so it would be better to get it less dry with a big Lake.



 




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