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"gman99" wrote in message ... anonymous wrote: Claim Guy wrote: We've got Americans coming up here in droves for prescription drugs and flu vaccines and we are supposed to envy the US system. and we've got canadian subjects coming down here in droves to get health care they can't wait months to get. Droves ??? hardly....yes, wait times are high but the treatment is still FREE. What good is free treatment if it's too late? If you want free you'd have to wait, if you want fast you'd have to pay. Besides it's not free anyway, your high taxes pay for it. Nothing is perfect, or even close to it. There is no free lunch. Neither country has the magic formula. |
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"gman99" wrote in message ... anonymous wrote: Claim Guy wrote: We've got Americans coming up here in droves for prescription drugs and flu vaccines and we are supposed to envy the US system. and we've got canadian subjects coming down here in droves to get health care they can't wait months to get. Droves ??? hardly....yes, wait times are high but the treatment is still FREE. What good is free treatment if it's too late? If you want free you'd have to wait, if you want fast you'd have to pay. Besides it's not free anyway, your high taxes pay for it. Nothing is perfect, or even close to it. There is no free lunch. Neither country has the magic formula. |
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"PeterL" wrote:
"gman99" wrote in message ... anonymous wrote: Claim Guy wrote: We've got Americans coming up here in droves for prescription drugs and flu vaccines and we are supposed to envy the US system. and we've got canadian subjects coming down here in droves to get health care they can't wait months to get. Droves ??? hardly....yes, wait times are high but the treatment is still FREE. What good is free treatment if it's too late? If you want free you'd have to wait, if you want fast you'd have to pay. Besides it's not free anyway, your high taxes pay for it. Many states have taxes as high or higher WITHOUT any of the benefits. People are waiting for NON-critical operations...hip replacements, joint replacements..etc. People are NOT dying on a table waiting for a critical organ transplant unless a suitable donor organ isn't found which isn't the fault of wait times. They're not coming into an ER with a heart attack and being told to wait.... |
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"PeterL" wrote:
"gman99" wrote in message ... anonymous wrote: Claim Guy wrote: We've got Americans coming up here in droves for prescription drugs and flu vaccines and we are supposed to envy the US system. and we've got canadian subjects coming down here in droves to get health care they can't wait months to get. Droves ??? hardly....yes, wait times are high but the treatment is still FREE. What good is free treatment if it's too late? If you want free you'd have to wait, if you want fast you'd have to pay. Besides it's not free anyway, your high taxes pay for it. Many states have taxes as high or higher WITHOUT any of the benefits. People are waiting for NON-critical operations...hip replacements, joint replacements..etc. People are NOT dying on a table waiting for a critical organ transplant unless a suitable donor organ isn't found which isn't the fault of wait times. They're not coming into an ER with a heart attack and being told to wait.... |
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"PeterL" wrote:
"gman99" wrote in message ... anonymous wrote: Claim Guy wrote: We've got Americans coming up here in droves for prescription drugs and flu vaccines and we are supposed to envy the US system. and we've got canadian subjects coming down here in droves to get health care they can't wait months to get. Droves ??? hardly....yes, wait times are high but the treatment is still FREE. What good is free treatment if it's too late? If you want free you'd have to wait, if you want fast you'd have to pay. Besides it's not free anyway, your high taxes pay for it. Many states have taxes as high or higher WITHOUT any of the benefits. People are waiting for NON-critical operations...hip replacements, joint replacements..etc. People are NOT dying on a table waiting for a critical organ transplant unless a suitable donor organ isn't found which isn't the fault of wait times. They're not coming into an ER with a heart attack and being told to wait.... |
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"PeterL" wrote:
"gman99" wrote in message ... anonymous wrote: Claim Guy wrote: We've got Americans coming up here in droves for prescription drugs and flu vaccines and we are supposed to envy the US system. and we've got canadian subjects coming down here in droves to get health care they can't wait months to get. Droves ??? hardly....yes, wait times are high but the treatment is still FREE. What good is free treatment if it's too late? If you want free you'd have to wait, if you want fast you'd have to pay. Besides it's not free anyway, your high taxes pay for it. Many states have taxes as high or higher WITHOUT any of the benefits. People are waiting for NON-critical operations...hip replacements, joint replacements..etc. People are NOT dying on a table waiting for a critical organ transplant unless a suitable donor organ isn't found which isn't the fault of wait times. They're not coming into an ER with a heart attack and being told to wait.... |
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"gman99" wrote in message ... "PeterL" wrote: "gman99" wrote in message ... anonymous wrote: Claim Guy wrote: We've got Americans coming up here in droves for prescription drugs and flu vaccines and we are supposed to envy the US system. and we've got canadian subjects coming down here in droves to get health care they can't wait months to get. Droves ??? hardly....yes, wait times are high but the treatment is still FREE. What good is free treatment if it's too late? If you want free you'd have to wait, if you want fast you'd have to pay. Besides it's not free anyway, your high taxes pay for it. Many states have taxes as high or higher WITHOUT any of the benefits. Are you sure? Including the entire tax burden? People are waiting for NON-critical operations...hip replacements, joint replacements..etc. Well, if you are in pain from hip or joint problems, it's critical. Who decides what is and what is not critical? People are NOT dying on a table waiting for a critical organ transplant If those "non-critical" health services are not available in a timely manner, then eventually it becomes a critical health problem. unless a suitable donor organ isn't found which isn't the fault of wait times. They're not coming into an ER with a heart attack and being told to wait.... I think most of us don't want to be in the ER. We want to have our health problems taken care of in a timely manner, so that we don't end up in the ER. |
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"gman99" wrote in message ... "PeterL" wrote: "gman99" wrote in message ... anonymous wrote: Claim Guy wrote: We've got Americans coming up here in droves for prescription drugs and flu vaccines and we are supposed to envy the US system. and we've got canadian subjects coming down here in droves to get health care they can't wait months to get. Droves ??? hardly....yes, wait times are high but the treatment is still FREE. What good is free treatment if it's too late? If you want free you'd have to wait, if you want fast you'd have to pay. Besides it's not free anyway, your high taxes pay for it. Many states have taxes as high or higher WITHOUT any of the benefits. Are you sure? Including the entire tax burden? People are waiting for NON-critical operations...hip replacements, joint replacements..etc. Well, if you are in pain from hip or joint problems, it's critical. Who decides what is and what is not critical? People are NOT dying on a table waiting for a critical organ transplant If those "non-critical" health services are not available in a timely manner, then eventually it becomes a critical health problem. unless a suitable donor organ isn't found which isn't the fault of wait times. They're not coming into an ER with a heart attack and being told to wait.... I think most of us don't want to be in the ER. We want to have our health problems taken care of in a timely manner, so that we don't end up in the ER. |
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anonymous wrote:
Claim Guy wrote: We've got Americans coming up here in droves for prescription drugs and flu vaccines and we are supposed to envy the US system. and we've got canadian subjects coming down here in droves to get health care they can't wait months to get. There are thousands of "Snowbirds" (mostly elderly Canadians) who winter in the US and as such require healthcare while there... We have Auto and Workers insurance companies who will opt to send an injured person south to jump a cue and save a few thousand dollars per case (I have not heard of this happening too much lately.) But for the most part what you are hearing is PR from those in your country who have billions to loose if your system is changed... The fact still remains infant mortality is considerably lower and life expectancy higher in Canada, two facts that indicate we Canadians are getting excellent health care. Could it be better - YES. Would I opt for a US style - HELL NO! |
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anonymous wrote:
Claim Guy wrote: We've got Americans coming up here in droves for prescription drugs and flu vaccines and we are supposed to envy the US system. and we've got canadian subjects coming down here in droves to get health care they can't wait months to get. There are thousands of "Snowbirds" (mostly elderly Canadians) who winter in the US and as such require healthcare while there... We have Auto and Workers insurance companies who will opt to send an injured person south to jump a cue and save a few thousand dollars per case (I have not heard of this happening too much lately.) But for the most part what you are hearing is PR from those in your country who have billions to loose if your system is changed... The fact still remains infant mortality is considerably lower and life expectancy higher in Canada, two facts that indicate we Canadians are getting excellent health care. Could it be better - YES. Would I opt for a US style - HELL NO! |
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