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  #71  
Old July 15th, 2006, 10:55 AM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.travel.europe,soc.culture.british,soc.culture.usa,alt.politics.bush
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Stan de SD writes:

I don't recall America having double-digit unemployment rates
like France ...


It depends on which year you look at.

... or having rioting foreigners burning up cars on a regular basis.


France doesn't have that, either.

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Old July 16th, 2006, 04:29 AM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.travel.europe,soc.culture.british,soc.culture.usa,alt.politics.bush
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Stan de SD wrote:

People are "poor" in the US because they personally neglect things like
their own education and refuse to take any initiative in their lives.


No, Stan. While that is true in many cases, do you think everyone is cut
out for higher education?

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Old July 16th, 2006, 04:30 AM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.travel.europe,soc.culture.british,soc.culture.usa,alt.politics.bush
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Stan de SD wrote:


Nobody is forced to work as an employee in the US. People are free to start
their own businesses if they think they can do better.


If they aren't skilled enough to find employment with benefits while
working for someone else, are they really skilled enough to do it on
their own?
  #74  
Old July 16th, 2006, 11:14 AM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.travel.europe,soc.culture.british,soc.culture.usa,alt.politics.bush
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mrtravel writes:

No, Stan. While that is true in many cases, do you think everyone is cut
out for higher education?


Neglecting higher education isn't the problem. The problem is
neglecting _all_ education, even the minimal education required to
function in society.

Nearly a third of the American population is functionally illiterate.
That indicates an education too poor to suffice for daily life.
Forget about college; these are people who effectively dropped out
before they finished elementary school (or who went to schools so poor
that they were never actually taught to read).

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Old July 17th, 2006, 11:12 AM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.travel.europe,soc.culture.british,soc.culture.usa,alt.politics.bush
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Following up to Stan de SD

that's part of the mentality that says US must be right because
its "richer" so lets all flog ourselves to death to own three
cars and a load of useless stuff rather than have a good work
life balance. Ultimately your competing with the Chinese with no
leave, are you looking forward to celebrating 2% unemployment and
no days off at all?


Nobody is forced to work as an employee in the US. People are free to start
their own businesses if they think they can do better.


whoosh!!!!
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  #76  
Old July 18th, 2006, 03:20 AM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.travel.europe,soc.culture.british,soc.culture.usa,alt.politics.bush
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The Reid wrote:
Following up to Stan de SD

that's part of the mentality that says US must be right because
its "richer" so lets all flog ourselves to death to own three
cars and a load of useless stuff rather than have a good work
life balance. Ultimately your competing with the Chinese with no
leave, are you looking forward to celebrating 2% unemployment and
no days off at all?


Nobody is forced to work as an employee in the US. People are free to start
their own businesses if they think they can do better.


whoosh!!!!


I think you missed a chunk yourself.

Note that I can own 3 cars and a lot of stuff that I want (never mind
if *you* or someone else thinks it's useless) while having a great
work/life balance. A couple of months vacation a year. Or more. 40 hour
work weeks generally. More time with my family than at work.

You have been reading too many issues of the World Worker's Daily.

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Old July 18th, 2006, 09:01 AM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.travel.europe,soc.culture.british,soc.culture.usa,alt.politics.bush
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Following up to Tchiowa

I think you missed a chunk yourself.

Note that I can own 3 cars and a lot of stuff that I want (never mind
if *you* or someone else thinks it's useless)


what you probably don't get is that that lifestyle isnt
supportable. We need to consume less, work less and pollute less,
its not really anything to do with what I think is useless.
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Old July 18th, 2006, 11:01 AM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.travel.europe,soc.culture.british,soc.culture.usa,alt.politics.bush
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On 17 Jul 2006 19:20:27 -0700, "Tchiowa" wrote:


The Reid wrote:
Following up to Stan de SD

that's part of the mentality that says US must be right because
its "richer" so lets all flog ourselves to death to own three
cars and a load of useless stuff rather than have a good work
life balance. Ultimately your competing with the Chinese with no
leave, are you looking forward to celebrating 2% unemployment and
no days off at all?


Nobody is forced to work as an employee in the US. People are free to start
their own businesses if they think they can do better.


whoosh!!!!


I think you missed a chunk yourself.

Note that I can own 3 cars and a lot of stuff that I want (never mind
if *you* or someone else thinks it's useless) while having a great
work/life balance. A couple of months vacation a year. Or more. 40 hour
work weeks generally. More time with my family than at work.


I think you've been tugging your weenie a bit too hard.
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Old July 19th, 2006, 01:07 AM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.travel.europe,soc.culture.british,soc.culture.usa,alt.politics.bush
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The Reid wrote:
Following up to Tchiowa

I think you missed a chunk yourself.

Note that I can own 3 cars and a lot of stuff that I want (never mind
if *you* or someone else thinks it's useless)


what you probably don't get is that that lifestyle isnt
supportable. We need to consume less, work less and pollute less,
its not really anything to do with what I think is useless.


Consume less, maybe. Work less, absolutely not. That's the kind of
thinking that destroys civilizations.

And yes my lifestyle is completely supportable. People have been saying
the US lifestyle isn't supportable for over half a century and we keep
improving.

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Old July 19th, 2006, 07:32 AM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.travel.europe,soc.culture.british,soc.culture.usa,alt.politics.bush
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Tchiowa writes:

And yes my lifestyle is completely supportable. People have been saying
the US lifestyle isn't supportable for over half a century and we keep
improving.


Any lifestyle is supportable if the population is not allowed to
expand out of control.

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