Hard landing

http://mysite.verizon.net/vze6kuhd/MD-80.mpg

"Sjoerd" wrote in message
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http://mysite.verizon.net/vze6kuhd/MD-80.mpg

Such a thread is on another site I read (and apparently Sjoerd does too).
IIRC, this event took place during the trials of the prototype. It was the
"hard landing test", but a mistake was made and the plane landed much harder
than intended. It was repaired and used many years as a testbed.

"R J Carpenter" wrote in message
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"Sjoerd" wrote in message
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http://mysite.verizon.net/vze6kuhd/MD-80.mpg

Such a thread is on another site I read (and apparently Sjoerd does too).
IIRC, this event took place during the trials of the prototype. It was
the
"hard landing test", but a mistake was made and the plane landed much
harder
than intended. It was repaired and used many years as a testbed.


It looks awfully close to being a Northwest 80.

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"Sjoerd" wrote in message ...
http://mysite.verizon.net/vze6kuhd/MD-80.mpg

Odd that they happened to have a camera if this really was just an
accident. Looks like something they staged. In any case, the deck
angle looked good. The decent rate was probably high because the speed
got too low.

similar to the landing where the FAA pilot broke the fuselage just forward
of the wing join

"R J Carpenter" wrote in message
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"Sjoerd" wrote in message
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http://mysite.verizon.net/vze6kuhd/MD-80.mpg

Such a thread is on another site I read (and apparently Sjoerd does too).
IIRC, this event took place during the trials of the prototype. It was
the
"hard landing test", but a mistake was made and the plane landed much
harder
than intended. It was repaired and used many years as a testbed.

The decent rate was probably high because the speed
got too low.

the two are indepdent for the tolerances that a pilot
*should* fly at and definitely for a ATP-rated pilot.
So having said that, the descent rate was definitely too
high because the pilot didn't have enough power
in. Power control altitude and Attitude controls
speed in slow flight. Power + Attitude = performance.

Gerald sylvester
PPL-ASEL 12/17/03

Sort of difficult to get everything exactly where you want it when it's
INTENDED as a hard landing, though

(It WAS a test, after all - just never intended that that damage level
occur)

Pretty difficult to set up what amounts to a controlled crash and have
everything work perfectly

"Gerald Sylvester" wrote in message
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The decent rate was probably high because the speed
got too low.

the two are indepdent for the tolerances that a pilot
*should* fly at and definitely for a ATP-rated pilot.
So having said that, the descent rate was definitely too
high because the pilot didn't have enough power
in. Power control altitude and Attitude controls
speed in slow flight. Power + Attitude = performance.

Gerald sylvester
PPL-ASEL 12/17/03

Sort of difficult to get everything exactly where you want it when it's
INTENDED as a hard landing, though

Do you know the details of this incident? (NTSB URL, if it's readily
available and convenient to find, would be nice).

When, where (KYUM?), who was flying?

I knew of an incident similar to this during the initial testing of the
MD-8x, and I knew that the fuselage buckled, but I didn't know that the
whole tail came off.

me neither, but it's rather well documented, isn't it. Maybe just didn't
surface until now.

Like the hidden story of how Boeing took the original 747 into Renton (gasps
from pilots who know that Renton is a bit over 5000' (5379)) and needless to
say a "bit" short for "normal" 747 ops. Anyway - they needed to paint the
bird so they took it to Renton. Landing from the north - small problem -
they clipped the seawall (field directly abuts Lake Washington) and ripped
out 2 of the main gear (probably because of the VASI and not remembering
they were 40' up in the air - oops) so guess what - they turned off ALL the
airport lights and closed the airport (actually they would have had to close
it anyway - 747 on the runway) and hauled off the bird to the paint hanger
and fixed it and flew it out (painted of course). NEVER any mention of the
incident - would sort have looked bad to crash the bird upon which they bet
the company. Amazing what CAN be stifled, isn't it.

"Morgoth Bauglir" wrote in message
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Sort of difficult to get everything exactly where you want it when it's
INTENDED as a hard landing, though

Do you know the details of this incident? (NTSB URL, if it's readily
available and convenient to find, would be nice).

When, where (KYUM?), who was flying?

I knew of an incident similar to this during the initial testing of the
MD-8x, and I knew that the fuselage buckled, but I didn't know that the
whole tail came off.